Bull****.

If passive SP gain is 24k SP per day, and you've had your guy since the last reset that's at least 2.88 million SP. More if you play to earn Active SP (and you do), and more if you buy boosters.

I bet you have over 8 mil SP invested in your character.

4 months of passive gaining = 3.5 million SP
4 months of playing = 12 million SP

1 year of passive gaining = 11 million SP
1 year of playing = 50 million SP (approximately)

hmmmm I mean if you think waiting will make things any better then go ahead and do that, but im not sure if things will work out the way you want it to.....

its called an alt account...... Lots of people make them because to my knowledge CCP hasn't said anything against them. Lol, he could even be using a second character, though I don't seem much point in that.....

Uses milita gear, doesn't have that many support skills, still kills proto players and vehicles.

Speaking to the OP's thread title (or at least part of it)

The question is "Why even try?" and we see people hashing it out over and over.

A friend of mine tried out DUST 514 a few months ago and just didn't like it. With the "release" he tried again and got in a squad with me and a bunch of guys that had been playing the game for a while. When I asked afterword how he liked it he said it was great.

I think it's safe to say new players can't jump in and play solo or with a pick-up squad of unhelpful / clueless players and have any kind of positive experience. You can tell them to get in a Corporation and play with a team but that can't be their first experience. There's no mechanism for it.

I have no idea how we can change that. While there are certainly a lot of problems with gun play that's not the kind of change that will the change the new player experience.

Some people talk about wanting a team based, more tactical shooter. Well, we've got one. Maybe we shouldn't be surprised that people who don't want / can't figure out how to get to the team/tactical elements of the game ask "why even try?"

4 months of passive gaining = 3.5 million SP
4 months of playing = 12 million SP

1 year of passive gaining = 11 million SP
1 year of playing = 50 million SP (approximately)

hmmmm I mean if you think waiting will make things any better then go ahead and do that, but im not sure if things will work out the way you want it to.....

So...I'm new, I understand I'm supposed to be stomped out by more experienced Vets, but for the love of **** - This SP isn't for an FPS

I can't take on...Anyone! Seriously, it doesn't matter how skilled I am, or how hard I try because I'll always get annihilated, because of proto-this or proto-that. It begs the question, why should I even bother with this? I just get wrecked as soon as I hit the battlefield by someone who's been here since closed Beta.

Really, it's been 1 day since I started actually playing and the bleakness of this thing for us newbies is becoming steadily more apparent with every game.

You've also been playing for how long?

New player experience in DUST is ****

I go 20-0 in a militia suit dude. Maybe you just suck.

What he said.

You get less than a day in the academy and then you are thrown in with the people who have been playing for weeks, months or up to a year. People who kept everything they collected asset wise and skill point wise.

..

Also, those numbers that someone posted up. When you say playing for a year, do you just mean hitting the weekly cap every week?

So...I'm new, I understand I'm supposed to be stomped out by more experienced Vets, but for the love of **** - This SP isn't for an FPS

I can't take on...Anyone! Seriously, it doesn't matter how skilled I am, or how hard I try because I'll always get annihilated, because of proto-this or proto-that. It begs the question, why should I even bother with this? I just get wrecked as soon as I hit the battlefield by someone who's been here since closed Beta.

Really, it's been 1 day since I started actually playing and the bleakness of this thing for us newbies is becoming steadily more apparent with every game.

The WP cap is way to low in my opinion.
I made an alt to try out the academy, after a few games I was getting proto stomped in pubs.
I'm not sure what to suggest to be perfectly honest.
Raise the cap? Give newbie's more starter SP?
Anyone got any idea's?

This is what I'd say the current system encourages the most and should worry ccp.

Dumbass. I didn't say the militia gear isn't good. Try, I just started ACTUALLY playing today, I don't have the X million skill points you have and I'm not familiar with a game that has such awkward controls. The existence of people like you in the community doesn't help, and maybe you're the reason that people just stop playing. Try helping instead if putting people down, enjoy your broken514.

Did anybody mention the Eve online thing- if not then-

- Welcome to New Eden...

Basically Dust is set in the Eve universe, and they are presented with- welcome to new eden...


- GETH

PvE would solve this

That has GOT to be the worst response to a problem. Ever. Because of a poor new player experience you get "Welcome to New Eden." It's sure to be a short stay for me, this game isn't newbie friendly, hell it's not even possible to BE new, you just die. It has almost nothing to do with skill, from combing these forums, I've learned that most of the FPS vets won't come near this game, which means that there's probably, eh...1 or 2 of them per match.

This also means that I'm probably running into a bunch of EvE players and RPG guys. No way am I losing to a RPG guy in a 1v1 gunfight that has anything to do with skill. This is further proven by the fact that all their suits are "PRO" yeah...This is fun.

So...I'm new, I understand I'm supposed to be stomped out by more experienced Vets, but for the love of **** - This SP isn't for an FPS

I can't take on...Anyone! Seriously, it doesn't matter how skilled I am, or how hard I try because I'll always get annihilated, because of proto-this or proto-that. It begs the question, why should I even bother with this? I just get wrecked as soon as I hit the battlefield by someone who's been here since closed Beta.

Really, it's been 1 day since I started actually playing and the bleakness of this thing for us newbies is becoming steadily more apparent with every game.