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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.05.28 16:22:00 -
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I have all armor skills maxed out, and the shield hp skills maxed out. I got on my suit two complex armor plates, putting my HP at 515 armor + 150 shield. And guess what? A sniper on shotted all of that, to the body. The body. And no, it wasn't a officer sniper, it was the ishukone one. And if that wasn't enough, I saw a heavy drop in one shot. So sniper risk level: low Sniper reward: Extremely high
Yeah, this game is fun fun fun!
Edit: I know very well that snipers are not supposed to have that much damage output. However that sniper I encountered does, that means that something is glitched. |
J Falcs
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.05.28 16:22:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
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Posted - 2013.05.28 16:24:00 -
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Ohai cat merc. |
Technical-Support
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.28 16:24:00 -
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Cat Merc being dumb as usual, lol do the calculations yourself cant hit 700 with a sniper rifle. |
IRuby Heart
DIOS EX. Gentlemen's Agreement
712
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Posted - 2013.05.28 16:24:00 -
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look who's back...
Here kitty kitty |
Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.28 16:25:00 -
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Technical-Support wrote:Cat Merc being dumb as usual, lol do the calculations yourself cant hit 700 with a sniper rifle. Math is one thing, but if field testing shows otherwise... That thing body shotted all of that constantly without a problem. Something is glitched. |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
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Posted - 2013.05.28 16:28:00 -
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with capped sniping skills 500-550 is possible, you arel iekly mistaken and were head shotted.
regardless your ehp is actually pretty low for a heavy, I snipe heavies that have ehp in the 1000's |
Raizor Feddie
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
26
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Posted - 2013.05.28 16:29:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:I have all armor skills maxed out, and the shield hp skills maxed out. I got on my suit two complex armor plates, putting my HP at 515 armor + 150 shield. And guess what? A sniper on shotted all of that, to the body. The body. And no, it wasn't a officer sniper, it was the ishukone one. And if that wasn't enough, I saw a heavy drop in one shot. So sniper risk level: low Sniper reward: Extremely high
Yeah, this game is fun fun fun!
Please Shut up. You have no idea what you're talking about. You have to find a spot, a GOOD spot far from the battlefield, but open enough so that you don't get shot by one of you Tac AR using assholes, because the damn thing can countersnipe. Then you have to make the decision.
- Run logi, have all your equipment, but a normal scan signature, you can be detected AND easily taken down by a countersniper (Tac AR)
-Run scout, and have a hard time being found, now what do you want? Drop Uplink or Nanohive, you're ****** if someone comes close enough to you to engage you in Mid to CQC even with your SMG, so going to a Supply depot to restock is hell.
-If you run scout you have LESS High slots, which means you either get your precision enhance (You find people easier, makes marking targets simple) or Damage Modifiers, Now, once you kill someone you MUST relocate, you have no choice you'll die if you don't and bear in mind, if someone sees you in AR range (Very far) or Tac AR range (Lol good luck getting away) You're done. Logi suits have normal speed and scout speeds are only slightly faster, you're not getting away.
-City maps. LolCity maps. Don't even start there, you're just worthless there.
Yeah risk is SO low. |
Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.28 16:29:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:with capped sniping skills 500-550 is possible, you arel iekly mistaken and were head shotted.
regardless your ehp is actually pretty low for a heavy, I snipe heavies that have ehp in the 1000+ I'm not a heavy -_-
And if it was 550 I would survive it, as I have around 630 ehp against a sniper. And I know for a fact I wasn't headshotted, as I was shot in a place where only my body is visible to the sniper. |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
156
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Posted - 2013.05.28 16:32:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:calisk galern wrote:with capped sniping skills 500-550 is possible, you arel iekly mistaken and were head shotted.
regardless your ehp is actually pretty low for a heavy, I snipe heavies that have ehp in the 1000+ I'm not a heavy -_- And if it was 550 I would survive it, as I have around 630 ehp against a sniper. And I know for a fact I wasn't headshotted, as I was shot in a place where only my body is visible to the sniper.
like I said a head shot would kill you, a body shot would not.
only thing that mathematically adds up. |
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Technical-Support
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.28 16:32:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Technical-Support wrote:Cat Merc being dumb as usual, lol do the calculations yourself cant hit 700 with a sniper rifle. Math is one thing, but if field testing shows otherwise... That thing body shotted all of that constantly without a problem. Something is glitched.
Nope max damage = (229 x 1.15) x damage mods (5 dmg mods) ~1.25 = 329 per body shot. Headshot = at 190% efficiency at all ranges.
God your bad go QQ some more |
Daxxis KANNAH
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
56
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Posted - 2013.05.28 16:33:00 -
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A sniper pot shotting infantry - yeah that is supposed to happen.
Ninjas on the prowl are fun enough to take them out but most ppl dont want to even invest the minimum into that and we have no mortar type weapons or jets yet.
Maybe CCP will give us a gunship so we can have some reenacting of Rambo and Shooter. |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
156
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Posted - 2013.05.28 16:35:00 -
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Technical-Support wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Technical-Support wrote:Cat Merc being dumb as usual, lol do the calculations yourself cant hit 700 with a sniper rifle. Math is one thing, but if field testing shows otherwise... That thing body shotted all of that constantly without a problem. Something is glitched. Nope max damage = (229 x 1.15) x damage mods (5 dmg mods) ~1.25 = 329 per body shot. Headshot = at 190% efficiency at all ranges. God your bad go QQ some more
I hate the ishu...no idea why people would use it =/ |
Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1117
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Posted - 2013.05.28 16:38:00 -
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Its a body shot and I know for a fact its a body shot. The body was the only place open, the rest was covered. And it happened multiple times.
I did the math, and its either a glitch or the stats on the snipers are wrong. |
Technical-Support
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
54
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Posted - 2013.05.28 16:39:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Its a body shot and I know for a fact its a body shot. The body was the only place open, the rest was covered. And it happened multiple times.
I did the math, and its either a glitch or the stats on the snipers are wrong.
You sound like the kind of person that yells CHEATER! whenever he gets killed... |
Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1117
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Posted - 2013.05.28 16:45:00 -
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Technical-Support wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Its a body shot and I know for a fact its a body shot. The body was the only place open, the rest was covered. And it happened multiple times.
I did the math, and its either a glitch or the stats on the snipers are wrong. You sound like the kind of person that yells CHEATER! whenever he gets killed... Problem is, I don't. If I was killed fare and square then I say GG and move on. But this thing in particular... Its either a glitch, or the stats on the snipers are wrong. No other way around it, there was no way for a headshot. |
Sparadok
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
15
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Posted - 2013.05.28 16:53:00 -
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Did you have your head buried ostrich style cos I cant think of anywhere where the body is hittable (word?) And not the head. Unless you were dangling from the MCC with your head on the other side of the shield.
Sorry im just yanking your chain cos I read it and couldn't work out how or where this would happen and this is the only image I could come up with, so thought I'd share as it made me chuckle. |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
156
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Posted - 2013.05.28 16:53:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Technical-Support wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Its a body shot and I know for a fact its a body shot. The body was the only place open, the rest was covered. And it happened multiple times.
I did the math, and its either a glitch or the stats on the snipers are wrong. You sound like the kind of person that yells CHEATER! whenever he gets killed... Problem is, I don't. If I was killed fare and square then I say GG and move on. But this thing in particular... Its either a glitch, or the stats on the snipers are wrong. No other way around it, there was no way for a headshot .
how do you know it wasn't a head shot out of curiosity? |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
156
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Posted - 2013.05.28 16:54:00 -
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Sparadok wrote:Did you have your head buried ostrich style cos I cant think of anywhere where the body is hittable (word?) And not the head. Unless you were dangling from the MCC with your head on the other side of the shield.
Sorry im just yanking your chain cos I read it and couldn't work out how or where this would happen and this is the only image I could come up with, so thought I'd share as it made me chuckle.
I snipe the ankles of people manning turrets all the time =) |
Otoky
DIOS EX. Gentlemen's Agreement
110
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Posted - 2013.05.28 16:56:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:I have all armor skills maxed out, and the shield hp skills maxed out. I got on my suit two complex armor plates, putting my HP at 515 armor + 150 shield. And guess what? A sniper on shotted all of that, to the body. The body. And no, it wasn't a officer sniper, it was the ishukone one. And if that wasn't enough, I saw a heavy drop in one shot. So sniper risk level: low Sniper reward: Extremely high
Yeah, this game is fun fun fun!
Edit: I know very well that snipers are not supposed to have that much damage output. However that sniper I encountered does, that means that something is glitched. I say this as a sniper: no frekin chanse! Also with 5dmg mod you cant hit 700+hp. Do the math. It was a headshoot my friend. |
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Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
644
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Posted - 2013.05.28 16:56:00 -
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The QQ math does not add up. |
Deadeye Dic
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
81
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Posted - 2013.05.28 16:57:00 -
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The highest hitting sniper rifle is the Thale. A charge, which I use, has 322 base, even with 5 complex dmg mods, plus Sniper Pro, I can only hit 486 dmg per shot. Even a Thale can't hit 700, much less the Ishukone. |
Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
487
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Posted - 2013.05.28 17:00:00 -
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Sniper damage needs to be increased. a headshot should always be a OHK with a proto sniper with damage mods.
The problem with snipers is if you have more then 1 or 2, then your team immediately loses. Thats the downside.
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DJINN Marauder
Purgatorium of the Damned League of Infamy
707
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Posted - 2013.05.28 17:04:00 -
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In the Betamax jenzaing hellstorm video, Kujo gets killed by a thale sniper....in the dmg received it said 700+ dmg... And it wasnt a headshot i believe |
Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1117
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Posted - 2013.05.28 17:04:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Technical-Support wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Its a body shot and I know for a fact its a body shot. The body was the only place open, the rest was covered. And it happened multiple times.
I did the math, and its either a glitch or the stats on the snipers are wrong. You sound like the kind of person that yells CHEATER! whenever he gets killed... Problem is, I don't. If I was killed fare and square then I say GG and move on. But this thing in particular... Its either a glitch, or the stats on the snipers are wrong. No other way around it, there was no way for a headshot . how do you know it wasn't a head shot out of curiosity? I had a piece of cover that covers the head and most of my lower part of the body. Only a small part of the upper body was visible. I know that because I went around to check the piece of cover I was behind, to see how I was shot and if maybe it was a headshot. |
Ku Shala
Planetary Response Organization
8
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Posted - 2013.05.28 17:06:00 -
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maybe it was two snipers working together.......... but i wouldnt know anything about that im not a sniper |
Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1117
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Posted - 2013.05.28 17:07:00 -
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Possible explanations: Damage glitch Sniper stats are showing incorrectly Hitboxes are screwed up and somehow the game decided that my body is my head
Any of these requires a fix by CCP, which is why I made a thread. No, I'm not saying snipers in general are OP. |
Deadeye Dic
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
81
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Posted - 2013.05.28 17:08:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:Sniper damage needs to be increased. a headshot should always be a OHK with a proto sniper with damage mods.
The problem with snipers is if you have more then 1 or 2, then your team immediately loses. Thats the downside.
As a sniper, sniper damage is just fine. Headshots are almost always OHK. The only real exception to that is a PROPERLY Shield/Armor Tanked Heavy. In fact, Snipers are just fine. If you aren't hitting hard enough as a sniper, then you should reconsider your fittings. Any sniper who uses a light frame suit or a suit with less than 4 high slots, should really not be complaining on the forums.
The only exception to that is perhaps an aggressive sniper who thinks they can quick scope and get consistent kills. In general however, Assault Suit, Thale or Charge Sniper Rifle, 4-5 Damage Mods. Long range snipers have absolutely no need for defensive mods, your defensive is range and nest. If you get blind sided, then accept it, it happens from time to time, even the best of us get caught off guard. |
Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1117
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Posted - 2013.05.28 17:08:00 -
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Ku Shala wrote:maybe it was two snipers working together.......... but i wouldnt know anything about that im not a sniper Kill feed told me who did it and how much damage he did. If it was two people the damage would have been split up into two. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS
1508
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Posted - 2013.05.28 17:08:00 -
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Were you revive-able? If not, headshot. |
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Cass Barr
Red Star. EoN.
77
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Posted - 2013.05.28 17:09:00 -
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I don't usually agree with Cat Merc, but he's right here, at least partially. I've had it happen as well with Charged SR's. My Adv suit with a little over 700hp has been OHKO'd a couple times by them. I was able to call for Help afterwards which shouldn't happen with a headshot.
Assuming the potential max damage you guys are calculating is correct, it's likely either the call for Help function has an issue or the damage is calculating incorrectly. No idea which. |
Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1118
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Posted - 2013.05.28 17:10:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Were you revive-able? If not, headshot. I was. |
Appia Vibbia
Purgatorium of the Damned League of Infamy
39
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Posted - 2013.05.28 17:11:00 -
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OP was probably too slow to realize the first hit, that sounds like 2 hits from an Ishukone in a caldari suit with complex damage mods... Headshots for the SR need to be increased. i say 450% like my scrambler pistol. Scout-sniper needs to be viable and without damage mods, you're just picking off other Scout suits or finishing people off that your frontline fighters have weakened. damage mods ruin balance and need to be nixed. |
Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1118
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Posted - 2013.05.28 17:13:00 -
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Cass Barr wrote:I don't usually agree with Cat Merc, but he's right here, at least partially. I've had it happen as well with Charged SR's. My Adv suit with a little over 700hp has been OHKO'd a couple times by them. I was able to call for Help afterwards which shouldn't happen with a headshot.
Assuming the potential max damage you guys are calculating is correct, it's likely either the call for Help function has an issue or the damage is calculating incorrectly. No idea which. Good thing you don't see my name and instantly think what I said is worthless. I tend to predict a lot of things before they happen, and if I post about it people call me stupid. For example, I made a post about the TAC AR the first day Uprising came out. Everyone called me stupid. A few weeks later, the TAR is the FoTM. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS
1508
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Posted - 2013.05.28 17:13:00 -
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Appia Vibbia wrote:Headshots for the SR need to be increased. i say 450% like my scrambler pistol.. Keep dreaming |
Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1118
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Posted - 2013.05.28 17:14:00 -
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Appia Vibbia wrote:OP was probably too slow to realize the first hit, that sounds like 2 hits from an Ishukone in a caldari suit with complex damage mods... Headshots for the SR need to be increased. i say 450% like my scrambler pistol. Scout-sniper needs to be viable and without damage mods, you're just picking off other Scout suits or finishing people off that your frontline fighters have weakened. damage mods ruin balance and need to be nixed. Nope, a single hit. |
Otoky
DIOS EX. Gentlemen's Agreement
110
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Posted - 2013.05.28 17:14:00 -
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Maby it was 2 shooter simultanusly.
[Or maby I just want to cover the super secret ancient sniper techniques :O :D] |
Deadeye Dic
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
82
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Posted - 2013.05.28 17:15:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Possible explanations: Damage glitch Sniper stats are showing incorrectly Hitboxes are screwed up and somehow the game decided that my body is my head
Any of these requires a fix by CCP, which is why I made a thread. No, I'm not saying snipers in general are OP.
Other possibilities:
Your head wasn't as hidden as you thought. You're QQ. You can't do basic math.
Hit boxes seem fine to me. Head glitching is practically a thing of the past, so snipers are getting more head shots these days. No one gets weapon dmg stats any longer, the stat is no longer available in the suit stats screen of the fitting screen. I will also say that I consider myself to be a pretty fair sniper and I have never taken down a Properly tanked Heavy. I have OHK heavies in the past, but mostly because they aren't using the right mods. |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
157
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Posted - 2013.05.28 17:17:00 -
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Cass Barr wrote:I don't usually agree with Cat Merc, but he's right here, at least partially. I've had it happen as well with Charged SR's. My Adv suit with a little over 700hp has been OHKO'd a couple times by them. I was able to call for Help afterwards which shouldn't happen with a headshot.
Assuming the potential max damage you guys are calculating is correct, it's likely either the call for Help function has an issue or the damage is calculating incorrectly. No idea which.
head shots do not cause instant bleed out, i'm not sure what started that rumor, but I snipe lots of people in the head or the body and they don't instant bleed out no matter where I shoot them, they only instant bleed if you deal excessive amount of damage to them. |
Otoky
DIOS EX. Gentlemen's Agreement
110
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Posted - 2013.05.28 17:18:00 -
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Deadeye Dic wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Possible explanations: Damage glitch Sniper stats are showing incorrectly Hitboxes are screwed up and somehow the game decided that my body is my head
Any of these requires a fix by CCP, which is why I made a thread. No, I'm not saying snipers in general are OP. Other possibilities: Your head wasn't as hidden as you thought. You're QQ. You can't do basic math. No more say |
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Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1118
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Posted - 2013.05.28 17:20:00 -
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Only it was. Don't believe me, have fun with glitched snipers. Hopefully it will happen to you too :) |
Deadeye Dic
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
82
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Posted - 2013.05.28 17:22:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Ku Shala wrote:maybe it was two snipers working together.......... but i wouldnt know anything about that im not a sniper Kill feed told me who did it and how much damage he did. If it was two people the damage would have been split up into two.
I'm not 100% on this, but the Kill Screen seems to give total damage done to you, as opposed to total damage that killed you. For instance:
If you have 300 Armor left, but my shot does 500 dmg, then the kill screen shows 500 dmg, regardless of the fact that I killed you for 300 eHP.
My reasoning for this is because on my kill screens, I have seen more dmg done, than what was actually available to me. I run a proto minmatar medium frame and my eHP is only 285, but I have been sniped and the kill screen reported 300+ dmg. So it is perfectly plausible that you were in fact hit at least once before you were sniped and the dmg amount showed higher than what you actually had available to you. |
Otoky
DIOS EX. Gentlemen's Agreement
110
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Posted - 2013.05.28 17:23:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Only it was. Don't believe me, have fun with glitched snipers. Hopefully it will happen to you too :) And this how urban legends starts |
Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1118
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Posted - 2013.05.28 17:28:00 -
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Deadeye Dic wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Ku Shala wrote:maybe it was two snipers working together.......... but i wouldnt know anything about that im not a sniper Kill feed told me who did it and how much damage he did. If it was two people the damage would have been split up into two. I'm not 100% on this, but the Kill Screen seems to give total damage done to you, as opposed to total damage that killed you. For instance: If you have 300 Armor left, but my shot does 500 dmg, then the kill screen shows 500 dmg, regardless of the fact that I killed you for 300 eHP. My reasoning for this is because on my kill screens, I have seen more dmg done, than what was actually available to me. I run a proto minmatar medium frame and my eHP is only 285, but I have been sniped and the kill screen reported 300+ dmg. So it is perfectly plausible that you were in fact hit at least once before you were sniped and the dmg amount showed higher than what you actually had available to you. No, it doesn't. The reason why sometimes it will show you more damage than you have of eHP, is because it also counts if you recharge. So lose 400 HP, recharge 400 HP, lose 400HP and die, 800 damage. But it only counts if its from the same guy. I had times where I was in low health and a guy killed me, and it said "damage done to you, 34 HP" |
Deadeye Dic
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
82
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Posted - 2013.05.28 17:36:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote: No, it doesn't. The reason why sometimes it will show you more damage than you have of eHP, is because it also counts if you recharge. So lose 400 HP, recharge 400 HP, lose 400HP and die, 800 damage. But it only counts if its from the same guy. I had times where I was in low health and a guy killed me, and it said "damage done to you, 34 HP"
I can't debate this point, cause you could be right.
However, Cat, as a dedicated sniper, perhaps you did get glitched, but your circumstance, if it happened exactly as you said, is far and few between, at least from a standpoint of being reported by other players. From my own personal experience, I have never OHK anyone for 700+ dmg except on a headshot.
I'd be interested in knowing exactly what your fittings are. Perhaps its not a glitch with snipers as much as it could be a glitch with your mods. At the very least knowing what your fittings are and comparing it to other players who have had similar situations, might actually tell us and Devs what might be going on. |
Cass Barr
Red Star. EoN.
77
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Posted - 2013.05.28 17:36:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:Cass Barr wrote:I don't usually agree with Cat Merc, but he's right here, at least partially. I've had it happen as well with Charged SR's. My Adv suit with a little over 700hp has been OHKO'd a couple times by them. I was able to call for Help afterwards which shouldn't happen with a headshot.
Assuming the potential max damage you guys are calculating is correct, it's likely either the call for Help function has an issue or the damage is calculating incorrectly. No idea which. head shots do not cause instant bleed out, i'm not sure what started that rumor, but I snipe lots of people in the head or the body and they don't instant bleed out no matter where I shoot them, they only instant bleed if you deal excessive amount of damage to them, which a head shot will usually be, but not if you have 700+ ehp as for the cover I highly suspect your head was just out of cover it only takes a single pixel to not be in cover, some times not even that if the hit box is positioned well.
Ok, thanks for clearing that up |
Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1118
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Posted - 2013.05.28 17:44:00 -
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Deadeye Dic wrote:Cat Merc wrote: No, it doesn't. The reason why sometimes it will show you more damage than you have of eHP, is because it also counts if you recharge. So lose 400 HP, recharge 400 HP, lose 400HP and die, 800 damage. But it only counts if its from the same guy. I had times where I was in low health and a guy killed me, and it said "damage done to you, 34 HP"
I can't debate this point, cause you could be right. However, Cat, as a dedicated sniper, perhaps you did get glitched, but your circumstance, if it happened exactly as you said, is far and few between, at least from a standpoint of being reported by other players. From my own personal experience, I have never OHK anyone for 700+ dmg except on a headshot. I'd be interested in knowing exactly what your fittings are. Perhaps its not a glitch with snipers as much as it could be a glitch with your mods. At the very least knowing what your fittings are and comparing it to other players who have had similar situations, might actually tell us and Devs what might be going on. My fit was: GLU TAC AR Flaylock pistol 2x Complex Armor plates Complex armor rep Complex damage mod Basic damage mod Nanohive Locus grenade |
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