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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.05.28 16:22:00 -
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I have all armor skills maxed out, and the shield hp skills maxed out. I got on my suit two complex armor plates, putting my HP at 515 armor + 150 shield. And guess what? A sniper on shotted all of that, to the body. The body. And no, it wasn't a officer sniper, it was the ishukone one. And if that wasn't enough, I saw a heavy drop in one shot. So sniper risk level: low Sniper reward: Extremely high
Yeah, this game is fun fun fun!
Edit: I know very well that snipers are not supposed to have that much damage output. However that sniper I encountered does, that means that something is glitched. |
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Posted - 2013.05.28 16:25:00 -
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Technical-Support wrote:Cat Merc being dumb as usual, lol do the calculations yourself cant hit 700 with a sniper rifle. Math is one thing, but if field testing shows otherwise... That thing body shotted all of that constantly without a problem. Something is glitched. |
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Posted - 2013.05.28 16:29:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:with capped sniping skills 500-550 is possible, you arel iekly mistaken and were head shotted.
regardless your ehp is actually pretty low for a heavy, I snipe heavies that have ehp in the 1000+ I'm not a heavy -_-
And if it was 550 I would survive it, as I have around 630 ehp against a sniper. And I know for a fact I wasn't headshotted, as I was shot in a place where only my body is visible to the sniper. |
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Posted - 2013.05.28 16:38:00 -
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Its a body shot and I know for a fact its a body shot. The body was the only place open, the rest was covered. And it happened multiple times.
I did the math, and its either a glitch or the stats on the snipers are wrong. |
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Posted - 2013.05.28 16:45:00 -
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Technical-Support wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Its a body shot and I know for a fact its a body shot. The body was the only place open, the rest was covered. And it happened multiple times.
I did the math, and its either a glitch or the stats on the snipers are wrong. You sound like the kind of person that yells CHEATER! whenever he gets killed... Problem is, I don't. If I was killed fare and square then I say GG and move on. But this thing in particular... Its either a glitch, or the stats on the snipers are wrong. No other way around it, there was no way for a headshot. |
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Posted - 2013.05.28 17:04:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Technical-Support wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Its a body shot and I know for a fact its a body shot. The body was the only place open, the rest was covered. And it happened multiple times.
I did the math, and its either a glitch or the stats on the snipers are wrong. You sound like the kind of person that yells CHEATER! whenever he gets killed... Problem is, I don't. If I was killed fare and square then I say GG and move on. But this thing in particular... Its either a glitch, or the stats on the snipers are wrong. No other way around it, there was no way for a headshot . how do you know it wasn't a head shot out of curiosity? I had a piece of cover that covers the head and most of my lower part of the body. Only a small part of the upper body was visible. I know that because I went around to check the piece of cover I was behind, to see how I was shot and if maybe it was a headshot. |
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Posted - 2013.05.28 17:07:00 -
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Possible explanations: Damage glitch Sniper stats are showing incorrectly Hitboxes are screwed up and somehow the game decided that my body is my head
Any of these requires a fix by CCP, which is why I made a thread. No, I'm not saying snipers in general are OP. |
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Posted - 2013.05.28 17:08:00 -
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Ku Shala wrote:maybe it was two snipers working together.......... but i wouldnt know anything about that im not a sniper Kill feed told me who did it and how much damage he did. If it was two people the damage would have been split up into two. |
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Posted - 2013.05.28 17:10:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Were you revive-able? If not, headshot. I was. |
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Posted - 2013.05.28 17:13:00 -
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Cass Barr wrote:I don't usually agree with Cat Merc, but he's right here, at least partially. I've had it happen as well with Charged SR's. My Adv suit with a little over 700hp has been OHKO'd a couple times by them. I was able to call for Help afterwards which shouldn't happen with a headshot.
Assuming the potential max damage you guys are calculating is correct, it's likely either the call for Help function has an issue or the damage is calculating incorrectly. No idea which. Good thing you don't see my name and instantly think what I said is worthless. I tend to predict a lot of things before they happen, and if I post about it people call me stupid. For example, I made a post about the TAC AR the first day Uprising came out. Everyone called me stupid. A few weeks later, the TAR is the FoTM. |
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Posted - 2013.05.28 17:14:00 -
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Appia Vibbia wrote:OP was probably too slow to realize the first hit, that sounds like 2 hits from an Ishukone in a caldari suit with complex damage mods... Headshots for the SR need to be increased. i say 450% like my scrambler pistol. Scout-sniper needs to be viable and without damage mods, you're just picking off other Scout suits or finishing people off that your frontline fighters have weakened. damage mods ruin balance and need to be nixed. Nope, a single hit. |
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Posted - 2013.05.28 17:20:00 -
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Only it was. Don't believe me, have fun with glitched snipers. Hopefully it will happen to you too :) |
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Posted - 2013.05.28 17:28:00 -
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Deadeye Dic wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Ku Shala wrote:maybe it was two snipers working together.......... but i wouldnt know anything about that im not a sniper Kill feed told me who did it and how much damage he did. If it was two people the damage would have been split up into two. I'm not 100% on this, but the Kill Screen seems to give total damage done to you, as opposed to total damage that killed you. For instance: If you have 300 Armor left, but my shot does 500 dmg, then the kill screen shows 500 dmg, regardless of the fact that I killed you for 300 eHP. My reasoning for this is because on my kill screens, I have seen more dmg done, than what was actually available to me. I run a proto minmatar medium frame and my eHP is only 285, but I have been sniped and the kill screen reported 300+ dmg. So it is perfectly plausible that you were in fact hit at least once before you were sniped and the dmg amount showed higher than what you actually had available to you. No, it doesn't. The reason why sometimes it will show you more damage than you have of eHP, is because it also counts if you recharge. So lose 400 HP, recharge 400 HP, lose 400HP and die, 800 damage. But it only counts if its from the same guy. I had times where I was in low health and a guy killed me, and it said "damage done to you, 34 HP" |
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Posted - 2013.05.28 17:44:00 -
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Deadeye Dic wrote:Cat Merc wrote: No, it doesn't. The reason why sometimes it will show you more damage than you have of eHP, is because it also counts if you recharge. So lose 400 HP, recharge 400 HP, lose 400HP and die, 800 damage. But it only counts if its from the same guy. I had times where I was in low health and a guy killed me, and it said "damage done to you, 34 HP"
I can't debate this point, cause you could be right. However, Cat, as a dedicated sniper, perhaps you did get glitched, but your circumstance, if it happened exactly as you said, is far and few between, at least from a standpoint of being reported by other players. From my own personal experience, I have never OHK anyone for 700+ dmg except on a headshot. I'd be interested in knowing exactly what your fittings are. Perhaps its not a glitch with snipers as much as it could be a glitch with your mods. At the very least knowing what your fittings are and comparing it to other players who have had similar situations, might actually tell us and Devs what might be going on. My fit was: GLU TAC AR Flaylock pistol 2x Complex Armor plates Complex armor rep Complex damage mod Basic damage mod Nanohive Locus grenade |
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