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Deadeye Dic
Condotta Rouvenor
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Posted - 2013.05.28 16:57:00 -
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The highest hitting sniper rifle is the Thale. A charge, which I use, has 322 base, even with 5 complex dmg mods, plus Sniper Pro, I can only hit 486 dmg per shot. Even a Thale can't hit 700, much less the Ishukone. |
Deadeye Dic
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.28 17:08:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:Sniper damage needs to be increased. a headshot should always be a OHK with a proto sniper with damage mods.
The problem with snipers is if you have more then 1 or 2, then your team immediately loses. Thats the downside.
As a sniper, sniper damage is just fine. Headshots are almost always OHK. The only real exception to that is a PROPERLY Shield/Armor Tanked Heavy. In fact, Snipers are just fine. If you aren't hitting hard enough as a sniper, then you should reconsider your fittings. Any sniper who uses a light frame suit or a suit with less than 4 high slots, should really not be complaining on the forums.
The only exception to that is perhaps an aggressive sniper who thinks they can quick scope and get consistent kills. In general however, Assault Suit, Thale or Charge Sniper Rifle, 4-5 Damage Mods. Long range snipers have absolutely no need for defensive mods, your defensive is range and nest. If you get blind sided, then accept it, it happens from time to time, even the best of us get caught off guard. |
Deadeye Dic
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.28 17:15:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Possible explanations:
Damage glitch
Sniper stats are showing incorrectly
Hitboxes are screwed up and somehow the game decided that my body is my head
Any of these requires a fix by CCP, which is why I made a thread.
No, I'm not saying snipers in general are OP.
Other possibilities:
Your head wasn't as hidden as you thought.
You're QQ.
You can't do basic math.
Hit boxes seem fine to me. Head glitching is practically a thing of the past, so snipers are getting more head shots these days. No one gets weapon dmg stats any longer, the stat is no longer available in the suit stats screen of the fitting screen. I will also say that I consider myself to be a pretty fair sniper and I have never taken down a Properly tanked Heavy. I have OHK heavies in the past, but mostly because they aren't using the right mods. |
Deadeye Dic
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.28 17:22:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Ku Shala wrote:maybe it was two snipers working together..........
but i wouldnt know anything about that im not a sniper Kill feed told me who did it and how much damage he did. If it was two people the damage would have been split up into two.
I'm not 100% on this, but the Kill Screen seems to give total damage done to you, as opposed to total damage that killed you. For instance:
If you have 300 Armor left, but my shot does 500 dmg, then the kill screen shows 500 dmg, regardless of the fact that I killed you for 300 eHP.
My reasoning for this is because on my kill screens, I have seen more dmg done, than what was actually available to me. I run a proto minmatar medium frame and my eHP is only 285, but I have been sniped and the kill screen reported 300+ dmg. So it is perfectly plausible that you were in fact hit at least once before you were sniped and the dmg amount showed higher than what you actually had available to you. |
Deadeye Dic
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.28 17:36:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:
No, it doesn't.
The reason why sometimes it will show you more damage than you have of eHP, is because it also counts if you recharge.
So lose 400 HP, recharge 400 HP, lose 400HP and die, 800 damage.
But it only counts if its from the same guy.
I had times where I was in low health and a guy killed me, and it said "damage done to you, 34 HP"
I can't debate this point, cause you could be right.
However, Cat, as a dedicated sniper, perhaps you did get glitched, but your circumstance, if it happened exactly as you said, is far and few between, at least from a standpoint of being reported by other players. From my own personal experience, I have never OHK anyone for 700+ dmg except on a headshot.
I'd be interested in knowing exactly what your fittings are. Perhaps its not a glitch with snipers as much as it could be a glitch with your mods. At the very least knowing what your fittings are and comparing it to other players who have had similar situations, might actually tell us and Devs what might be going on. |
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