Haha I believe this is the first flaylock QQ thread . Congratulations let me present you with the ceremonial rocket to the face

However, I see the problem with a weapon having the same damage both ways.

Switch all flaylock pistol's damage with MD damage.

Funny, I thought you liked it both ways.





JK - That joke was set up to nicely for me to ignore, even have to put in my login information for that one. Please carry on with your thread, I'm sure much flame and whine will become of it with is always the true mark of a good post in these forums. Peace.

That would make the MD OP.

Just imagine it, the damage of a Core Flaylock, with the splash radius of a Freedom.

That would make the MD OP.

Just imagine it, the damage of a Core Flaylock, with the splash radius of a Freedom.

Standard Flaylock already out damages the Freedom. MD already took a huge nerf to splash radius and range. Might as well throw them a bone. Think about it, when's the last time you were killed by a MD or let alone seen someone dumb enough to use one?

People seem to not understand me.
I don't encounter many proto flaylock's in pub matches, so it isn't really a problem for me.
However, I run the proto flaylock and let me tell ya, its TOO good.
I had to check if maybe I was playing in the Academy by some glitch, but no.
If it stays as is, alright, I will continue having an awesome weapon in my hands that beats everything.

Standard Flaylock already out damages the Freedom. MD already took a huge nerf to splash radius and range. Might as well throw them a bone. Think about it, when's the last time you were killed by a MD or let alone seen someone dumb enough to use one?

Beats everything? I guess it's time for me to invest in a caldari logi and duvolle tac.

STOP CRYING nerf this nerf that i got my ass whooped by this and that. People always wanna cry i get killed by DTAC i get ran over i get killed by an HMG just shut up and deal with it they shouldn't nerf every weapon because half the players wanna cry when they cant figure out what to do. Heres a hint Flaylock cant hit people in the air well except some of us who aim directly. Do you see the guys beatin ur ass crying about it no IF YOU CANT BEAT EM JOIN EM


Oh about splash damage being so strong it makes sense because its such a concentrated blast just like the grenades pay attention..





Every game is a learning experience just because you didn't learn doesn't mean there wasn't a lesson

Anything not broken ;)

The splash radius is very small, if you get killed by one, then that person earned their kill.

The splash radius is very small, if you get killed by one, then that person earned their kill.

Sigh, not reading the entirety of the post.
I AM THE ONE USING THE PROTO FLAYLOCK, AND I AM THE ONE THAT GETS THE EASY KILLS.
2.5 meters is not small in any way, considering that with maxed out Flaylock skill you get 3.1 meters.
Its EASY.

Sigh, not reading the entirety of the post.
I AM THE ONE USING THE PROTO FLAYLOCK, AND I AM THE ONE THAT GETS THE EASY KILLS.
2.5 meters is not small in any way, considering that with maxed out Flaylock skill you get 3.1 meters.
Its EASY.

NO maxed out its 2.5m




Every game is a learning experience just because you didn't learn doesn't mean there wasn't a lesson

Get banned again please. You're a useless individual and no one cares about your opinion.

A. Who are you?
B. Will make sure to bring my proto flaylock next time we meet.

Sorry I don't do PC so you can't AWOX me SCRUB!

Sorry, but I don't like having a weapon be just as effective shooting to the ground and shooting to the body.
The Mass Driver is the only weapon that should be able to do that, as its a crowd control low damage splash, and its a light weapon.

Before you say anything, the splash range is very small on the standard level, but going for prototype shooting the ground is far more effective.

Last time I checked, the only difference between direct hit damage, and splash damage is 20 HP.

Edit:
People seem to not understand me.
I don't encounter many proto flaylock's in pub matches, so it isn't really a problem for me.
However, I run the proto flaylock and let me tell ya, its TOO good.
I had to check if maybe I was playing in the Academy by some glitch, but no.
If it stays as is, alright, I will continue having an awesome weapon in my hands that beats everything.

arnt the phisycs and hit detection still broken on all of the grenade lanching weapons i saw another trhead in feedback that was talking about flaylocks going strait through thier targets and out the other side poor hit detection rockets landing right and the feet at reds i'm talking dead 0,0 on the model and doing 0 damage

lets fix bugs and get the physics strait so we know the true potential of this weapon before we nerf it based of some QQ threads

Haha I believe this is the first flaylock QQ thread . Congratulations let me present you with the ceremonial rocket to the face

Proto flaylock = 2.5m explosion radius.
2.5 * 1.25 = 3.125
Also, that quote is useless in the context of this thread.
So I learned to only use the flaylock since it outshines any other sidearm.
k?

Wow... you're stupid.

You claim to use the weapon and then say stupid **** like that?

It's range is 2m at proto, max with skills is 2.5

I mean I feel like using a proto flaylock in pub matches is obviously going to get you easy kills. Any proto fit in pub is going to destroy a lot of the other fits. My main fit is minnie shotgun scout w/ a flaylock, and I normally run adv. I'd say the adv. flaylock is pretty balanced right now, but from the few times I've tried the (AUR) proto flaylock out of curiosity, and from when it's been used against me, you are right, it's pretty ridiculously deadly. Although as a scout I feel like MD & flaylock should be counters to me anyway (splash damage to counter a fast moving shotgunner?), so I'm not entirely sure it's too out of line. But the proto could maybe use some small tweaks to splash damage, and maybe a slightly smaller splash radius. a .5m base jump over the adv. is pretty pronounced, maybe reign it in by a few 0.1's of a meter, and shed a little bit of the splash damage. But definitely NO big changes, I don't think it's that broken, I mean, the 3 round clip is a pretty big handicap.

I would say my biggest concern would be that nerfing splash damage might accidentally nerf direct hits as well, as it is now, the flaylock is an awesome combo to my shotgun, I can switch to it and absolutely destroy armor when I need to. So yea, maybe small tweaks, but I'd say really only on the proto level, and nothing too dramatic




EDIT: also, yes, please buff mass drivers. They work sometimes (not often) but most of the time it feels like shooting water balloons at mercs

Wow... you're stupid.

You claim to use the weapon and then say stupid **** like that?

It's range is 2m at proto, max with skills is 2.5

It's a CQC weapon that does less damage than a shotgun, not OP at all.
It also barely scratches shields.

Not to mention that it and the Plasma Cannon are the only weapons that didn't get the 10% buff, so it's already been nerfed, only problem here is that MD's still suck.

Barely scratches shields yes.
But ******* destroyes armor to a crispy little pulp.

Cat Merc, man I am not trying to pick on you, but... From one side of your face you point out the blast radius as a problem, then from the other side you say .5 doesnt make much difference. You were using it to back your thread until it was pointed out to be inaccurate, then it doesnt matter. Stop being a troll.

That 0.5m doesn't do much difference.
Its still a highly damaging fast projectile that does amazing damage in comparison to skill required to use.

I think the point in the flylocks dammage difference between splash and direct dammage being so low is that the primary dammage is intentionally splash it could be possible that the extra dammage recieved by a direc hit is primarilly the force of impact fron the rocket.

currently, the only time you hit someone is from the splash. a direct shot usually ghosts it's way through the target.

A few times last night somebody on the enemy team had some uber powerful flaylock, and as a shield tanked Caldari logi I got OHK by it.

Yeah, something is definitely wrong with that picture. I smell a new FOTM.

A few times last night somebody on the enemy team had some uber powerful flaylock, and as a shield tanked Caldari logi I got OHK by it.

Yeah, something is definitely wrong with that picture. I smell a new FOTM.

they do more damage then my ships proto turrets

A few times last night somebody on the enemy team had some uber powerful flaylock, and as a shield tanked Caldari logi I got OHK by it.

Yeah, something is definitely wrong with that picture. I smell a new FOTM.

Wow... you're stupid.

You claim to use the weapon and then say stupid **** like that?

It's range is 2m at proto, max with skills is 2.5

Headshot ;)

Do the math for crying out loud, a single shot wouldn't kill you otherwise...not even a proto flaylock. That's assuming you actually put a tank on your logi.

Don't want to get hit? JUMP! Also, dodge those flux grenades...they tend to fly your way right before they blast you with flaylocks ;)

Riiiiiiight

Even IF this were true (and it isn't), turrets have much better range and don't need to reload after 3 shots.

Switch all flaylock pistol's damage with MD damage.

Not really, I enjoy firing on the ground and watch people send me hate mail for using a "noob tube".
Just like I do with the GLU

However, I see the problem with a weapon having the same damage both ways.

Imma gonna make a new ALT, Lav driver (ofcourse), Heavy Suit /check, Fused Nades /check, Plasma Cannon or Mass Driver /check, Flaylock Pistol /check.

Lets See how many tears i can get to flow.

Ill call it the E-Tears Sports Suit

You're doing it wrong: Caldari Logi LAV, Caldari Logi, Fused Nades, and TAR.

Imma gonna make a new ALT, Lav driver (ofcourse), Heavy Suit /check, Fused Nades /check, Plasma Cannon or Mass Driver /check, Flaylock Pistol /check.

Lets See how many tears i can get to flow.

Ill call it the E-Tears Sports Suit

Absolutely F'in hilarious man





Every game is a learning experience just because you didn't learn doesn't mean there wasn't a lesson

Absolutely F'in hilarious man

Every game is a learning experience just because you didn't learn doesn't mean there wasn't a lesson

Sorry, but I don't like having a weapon be just as effective shooting to the ground and shooting to the body.
The Mass Driver is the only weapon that should be able to do that, as its a crowd control low damage splash, and its a light weapon.

Before you say anything, the splash range is very small on the standard level, but going for prototype shooting the ground is far more effective.

Last time I checked, the only difference between direct hit damage, and splash damage is 20 HP.

Edit:
People seem to not understand me.
I don't encounter many proto flaylock's in pub matches, so it isn't really a problem for me.
However, I run the proto flaylock and let me tell ya, its TOO good.
I had to check if maybe I was playing in the Academy by some glitch, but no.
If it stays as is, alright, I will continue having an awesome weapon in my hands that beats everything.

That's the worst line I have ever seen being repeated.
I have learned that semi auto rifles combined with turbo controllers and extra damage turn into the type of weapon that gets banned in MLG.
But its good because its a learning experience right? -_-

P.S, I made this thread as a troll thread, you people keep arguing over something I admitted I don't actually believe in.

Thanks for trolling Cat Merc, This forum only needs a little bit more sidetracking, real post hiding troll spam like this and it will be completely useless. I guess that means you are cool or something, right? you win at something?

Trust me, there is no such thing as sidetracking on this forum.
I haven't seen a single useful post for days in GD.
Also, I do win, I enjoy watching people waste their time thinking they're snarky, and then it turns out it was a cannibal troll.

I am not saying I dont enjoy a good show of twist em up, but just that it is 60% QQ 30% troll 10% intelligent discussion in here. I do so like intelligent discussion.

currently, the only time you hit someone is from the splash. a direct shot usually ghosts it's way through the target.

STOP CRYING nerf this nerf that i got my ass whooped by this and that. People always wanna cry i get killed by DTAC i get ran over i get killed by an HMG just shut up and deal with it they shouldn't nerf every weapon because half the players wanna cry when they cant figure out what to do. Heres a hint Flaylock cant hit people in the air well except some of us who aim directly. Do you see the guys beatin ur ass crying about it no IF YOU CANT BEAT EM JOIN EM


Oh about splash damage being so strong it makes sense because its such a concentrated blast just like the grenades pay attention..





Every game is a learning experience just because you didn't learn doesn't mean there wasn't a lesson

Alot of my friends exclusively use the flaylock now that it is proto out it has MASSIVE Splash damage.

Nerf or balance one or the other.

with the hit detection lost, the splash is the best option/