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R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion of Darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.05.28 22:38:00 -
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Dias Bailey wrote:currently, the only time you hit someone is from the splash. a direct shot usually ghosts it's way through the target.
This happens a tooooon and is always hilarious. I always picture the enemy say "you talking to me?" after my shots go through him before he kills me when I have to reload after only 3 shots. |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
469
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Posted - 2013.05.28 22:45:00 -
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A few times last night somebody on the enemy team had some uber powerful flaylock, and as a shield tanked Caldari logi I got OHK by it.
Yeah, something is definitely wrong with that picture. I smell a new FOTM. |
Dias Bailey
the Aurum Grinder and Company
18
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Posted - 2013.05.28 22:48:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:A few times last night somebody on the enemy team had some uber powerful flaylock, and as a shield tanked Caldari logi I got OHK by it.
Yeah, something is definitely wrong with that picture. I smell a new FOTM.
i call it "flux 'n' flay". I also double up on the flaylocks... 3 shots are enough for an armor tanker... 6 are needed for those pesky shieldy's (if i'm out of flux's).
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R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion of Darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
58
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Posted - 2013.05.28 22:51:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:A few times last night somebody on the enemy team had some uber powerful flaylock, and as a shield tanked Caldari logi I got OHK by it.
Yeah, something is definitely wrong with that picture. I smell a new FOTM.
Headshot ;)
Do the math for crying out loud, a single shot wouldn't kill you otherwise...not even a proto flaylock. That's assuming you actually put a tank on your logi.
Don't want to get hit? JUMP! Also, dodge those flux grenades...they tend to fly your way right before they blast you with flaylocks ;) |
DRaven DeMort
Valor Coalition RISE of LEGION
27
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Posted - 2013.05.28 22:53:00 -
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they do more damage then my ships proto turrets |
R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion of Darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
58
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Posted - 2013.05.28 22:55:00 -
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DRaven DeMort wrote:they do more damage then my ships proto turrets
Riiiiiiight
Even IF this were true (and it isn't), turrets have much better range and don't need to reload after 3 shots. |
LICHSMASHER
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2013.05.28 23:02:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:A few times last night somebody on the enemy team had some uber powerful flaylock, and as a shield tanked Caldari logi I got OHK by it.
Yeah, something is definitely wrong with that picture. I smell a new FOTM.
one hit killed does imply full hit points no?
so explain to me how you were one hit ko by a flalylock even with a dirct hit flaylock op 5 flaylock prof 3 and two proto damage mods for sidearms in your caldari logi suit youd have to have no points into sheild upgrades and no sheild extenders or armor plates flaylocks are sidarms and in no way can just rip a hole in 180 sheilds they just dont do squat agianst shields
plus the fact that if he was aming for a body shot there a 95% chance it would just ghost right through you |
Bullets2yaface
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
3
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Posted - 2013.05.28 23:15:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Bullets2yaface wrote:Cat Merc wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:The splash radius is very small, if you get killed by one, then that person earned their kill. Sigh, not reading the entirety of the post. I AM THE ONE USING THE PROTO FLAYLOCK, AND I AM THE ONE THAT GETS THE EASY KILLS.2.5 meters is not small in any way, considering that with maxed out Flaylock skill you get 3.1 meters. Its EASY. NO maxed out its 2.5m Every game is a learning experience just because you didn't learn doesn't mean there wasn't a lesson Proto flaylock = 2.5m explosion radius. 2.5 * 1.25 = 3.125 Also, that quote is useless in the context of this thread. So I learned to only use the flaylock since it outshines any other sidearm. k? Wow... you're stupid. You claim to use the weapon and then say stupid **** like that? It's range is 2m at proto, max with skills is 2.5
Thank you Sloth i was going to correct him again but u beat me.. People cant read thats what the problem is doin the right math with the wrong numbers
Also only thing flaylock one hits is scouts |
Summer-Wolf
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
49
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Posted - 2013.05.28 23:18:00 -
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Dont touch my FP. I love em. My build is around them. |
Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
86
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Posted - 2013.05.28 23:35:00 -
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R'adeh Hunt wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:A few times last night somebody on the enemy team had some uber powerful flaylock, and as a shield tanked Caldari logi I got OHK by it.
Yeah, something is definitely wrong with that picture. I smell a new FOTM. Headshot ;) Do the math for crying out loud, a single shot wouldn't kill you otherwise...not even a proto flaylock. That's assuming you actually put a tank on your logi. Don't want to get hit? JUMP! Also, dodge those flux grenades...they tend to fly your way right before they blast you with flaylocks ;)
Headshot? WOW somebody else who knows nothing about a weapon. Flaylock does 70% dmg to shields and I think 104%? On a headshot against shields..... So any caldari logi in the above quote claiming they got OHK'd by a flaylock is full of so much ****! |
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DRaven DeMort
Valor Coalition RISE of LEGION
28
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Posted - 2013.05.29 05:52:00 -
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R'adeh Hunt wrote:DRaven DeMort wrote:they do more damage then my ships proto turrets Riiiiiiight Even IF this were true (and it isn't), turrets have much better range and don't need to reload after 3 shots.
no really, splash on the ds turrets suck you need a direct hit or a grazing shot to do any damage. the closing rate of my A-DS is quick and my TTD is about 1.5 seconds at full speed. after that target fixation sets in and my eyes go 0.o but i dont mind i get kills now and i cant wait till they fix it -ñ_-ñ |
D legendary hero
One-Armed Bandits Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.29 06:13:00 -
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i think the proto flaylock should have a 5% range nerf, and the basic should get a 5% range buff. still its only three shots, and if your enemy is above you or any distance away you will die. its a close range weapon just like pistol and smg. a proto smg, and a proto pistol do exactly the same except you dnt have to take a second t aim down and make sure they land on your shots.
with proto pistols you get 11 shots of rediculous damage, one shot from the breach does 125 damage and thats just the basic one.
prpto smgs are boss, hell even militia smgs are boss. the balance is the range, all side arms need to be good otherwise why switch weapons? might as well finish reloading. plus flaylocks arent really effective on sheilds and with the horrible hit detection your not really OP.
your problem is simply. you know how to aim to good....lol |
lowratehitman
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
614
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Posted - 2013.05.29 06:15:00 -
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Jenova's Witness wrote:Switch all flaylock pistol's damage with MD damage.
actually it is a side arm, so the dmg should be less than the MD, but perhaps increaced ROF, so switching would be awesome! |
Cosgar's Alt
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2013.05.29 06:16:00 -
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Awww hell no!
The MD is a potato launcher, and now you want to take away my more effective baby MD because you think it's OP when you use it? No... just no... |
crazy space 1
Unkn0wn Killers
1290
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Posted - 2013.05.29 06:29:00 -
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The splash should be increased and the splash damage reduced.
Direct hit damage should rock |
Bullets2yaface
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
3
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Posted - 2013.05.29 11:03:00 -
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Once again quit crying im sick of dealing with weapons becoming ****** cuz of a bunch of POS crybabies. People who cry about a weapon so take 5 seconds to realize they suck
Every game is a learning experience just because you didn't learn doesn't mean there wasn't a lesson |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
325
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Posted - 2013.05.29 11:19:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:pegasis prime wrote:Haha I believe this is the first flaylock QQ thread . Congratulations let me present you with the ceremonial rocket to the face Not really, I enjoy firing on the ground and watch people send me hate mail for using a "noob tube". Just like I do with the GLU However, I see the problem with a weapon having the same damage both ways.
Imma gonna make a new ALT, Lav driver (ofcourse), Heavy Suit /check, Fused Nades /check, Plasma Cannon or Mass Driver /check, Flaylock Pistol /check.
Lets See how many tears i can get to flow.
Ill call it the E-Tears Sports Suit |
Cosgar's Alt
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
16
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Posted - 2013.05.29 11:20:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:Cat Merc wrote:pegasis prime wrote:Haha I believe this is the first flaylock QQ thread . Congratulations let me present you with the ceremonial rocket to the face Not really, I enjoy firing on the ground and watch people send me hate mail for using a "noob tube". Just like I do with the GLU However, I see the problem with a weapon having the same damage both ways. Imma gonna make a new ALT, Lav driver (ofcourse), Heavy Suit /check, Fused Nades /check, Plasma Cannon or Mass Driver /check, Flaylock Pistol /check. Lets See how many tears i can get to flow. Ill call it the E-Tears Sports Suit You're doing it wrong: Caldari Logi LAV, Caldari Logi, Fused Nades, and TAR. |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
325
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Posted - 2013.05.29 11:40:00 -
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Cosgar's Alt wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:Cat Merc wrote:pegasis prime wrote:Haha I believe this is the first flaylock QQ thread . Congratulations let me present you with the ceremonial rocket to the face Not really, I enjoy firing on the ground and watch people send me hate mail for using a "noob tube". Just like I do with the GLU However, I see the problem with a weapon having the same damage both ways. Imma gonna make a new ALT, Lav driver (ofcourse), Heavy Suit /check, Fused Nades /check, Plasma Cannon or Mass Driver /check, Flaylock Pistol /check. Lets See how many tears i can get to flow. Ill call it the E-Tears Sports Suit You're doing it wrong: Caldari Logi LAV, Caldari Logi, Fused Nades, and TAR.
Its going to be tough to reach logi suits with 536k SP on that character lol, just wanna see what an effect an entire AOE setup has while i wait and see what the next 2-3 weeks bring before i actually spec my main again. |
Bullets2yaface
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
6
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Posted - 2013.05.29 12:21:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:Cat Merc wrote:pegasis prime wrote:Haha I believe this is the first flaylock QQ thread . Congratulations let me present you with the ceremonial rocket to the face Not really, I enjoy firing on the ground and watch people send me hate mail for using a "noob tube". Just like I do with the GLU However, I see the problem with a weapon having the same damage both ways. Imma gonna make a new ALT, Lav driver (ofcourse), Heavy Suit /check, Fused Nades /check, Plasma Cannon or Mass Driver /check, Flaylock Pistol /check. Lets See how many tears i can get to flow. Ill call it the E-Tears Sports Suit
Absolutely F'in hilarious man
Every game is a learning experience just because you didn't learn doesn't mean there wasn't a lesson |
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Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1197
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Posted - 2013.05.29 12:27:00 -
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Bullets2yaface wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:Cat Merc wrote:pegasis prime wrote:Haha I believe this is the first flaylock QQ thread . Congratulations let me present you with the ceremonial rocket to the face Not really, I enjoy firing on the ground and watch people send me hate mail for using a "noob tube". Just like I do with the GLU However, I see the problem with a weapon having the same damage both ways. Imma gonna make a new ALT, Lav driver (ofcourse), Heavy Suit /check, Fused Nades /check, Plasma Cannon or Mass Driver /check, Flaylock Pistol /check. Lets See how many tears i can get to flow. Ill call it the E-Tears Sports Suit Absolutely F'in hilarious man Every game is a learning experience just because you didn't learn doesn't mean there wasn't a lesson That's the worst line I have ever seen being repeated. I have learned that semi auto rifles combined with turbo controllers and extra damage turn into the type of weapon that gets banned in MLG. But its good because its a learning experience right? -_-
P.S, I made this thread as a troll thread, you people keep arguing over something I admitted I don't actually believe in. |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
325
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Posted - 2013.05.29 12:29:00 -
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Bullets2yaface wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:Cat Merc wrote:pegasis prime wrote:Haha I believe this is the first flaylock QQ thread . Congratulations let me present you with the ceremonial rocket to the face Not really, I enjoy firing on the ground and watch people send me hate mail for using a "noob tube". Just like I do with the GLU However, I see the problem with a weapon having the same damage both ways. Imma gonna make a new ALT, Lav driver (ofcourse), Heavy Suit /check, Fused Nades /check, Plasma Cannon or Mass Driver /check, Flaylock Pistol /check. Lets See how many tears i can get to flow. Ill call it the E-Tears Sports Suit Absolutely F'in hilarious man Every game is a learning experience just because you didn't learn doesn't mean there wasn't a lesson
The only thing ive learned so far in Dust is that i can run Proto suits all day while making a profit, all the while doing it Solo vs stacked teams on the other side. This is with broken KBM controls and downright horrible FPS.
Its time for something less serious, but not as downright low as running over your own teammates.
Enlighten me what you learned perhaps ? |
copy left
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
206
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Posted - 2013.05.29 12:52:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Sorry, but I don't like having a weapon be just as effective shooting to the ground and shooting to the body. The Mass Driver is the only weapon that should be able to do that, as its a crowd control low damage splash, and its a light weapon.
Before you say anything, the splash range is very small on the standard level, but going for prototype shooting the ground is far more effective.
Last time I checked, the only difference between direct hit damage, and splash damage is 20 HP.
Edit: People seem to not understand me. I don't encounter many proto flaylock's in pub matches, so it isn't really a problem for me. However, I run the proto flaylock and let me tell ya, its TOO good. I had to check if maybe I was playing in the Academy by some glitch, but no. If it stays as is, alright, I will continue having an awesome weapon in my hands that beats everything.
NO, the flaylock would then be useless. It barely can hit people in the face as it is. |
Bullets2yaface
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
6
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Posted - 2013.05.29 13:10:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Bullets2yaface wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:Cat Merc wrote:pegasis prime wrote:Haha I believe this is the first flaylock QQ thread . Congratulations let me present you with the ceremonial rocket to the face Not really, I enjoy firing on the ground and watch people send me hate mail for using a "noob tube". Just like I do with the GLU However, I see the problem with a weapon having the same damage both ways. Imma gonna make a new ALT, Lav driver (ofcourse), Heavy Suit /check, Fused Nades /check, Plasma Cannon or Mass Driver /check, Flaylock Pistol /check. Lets See how many tears i can get to flow. Ill call it the E-Tears Sports Suit Absolutely F'in hilarious man Every game is a learning experience just because you didn't learn doesn't mean there wasn't a lesson That's the worst line I have ever seen being repeated. I have learned that semi auto rifles combined with turbo controllers and extra damage turn into the type of weapon that gets banned in MLG. But its good because its a learning experience right? -_- P.S, I made this thread as a troll thread, you people keep arguing over something I admitted I don't actually believe in.
Rapid fire controllers are banned in tournys so your point is invalid
Every game is a learning experience just because you didn't learn doesn't mean there wasn't a lesson |
Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
668
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Posted - 2013.05.29 13:13:00 -
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Thanks for trolling Cat Merc, This forum only needs a little bit more sidetracking, real post hiding troll spam like this and it will be completely useless. I guess that means you are cool or something, right? you win at something? |
Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1199
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Posted - 2013.05.29 13:22:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:Thanks for trolling Cat Merc, This forum only needs a little bit more sidetracking, real post hiding troll spam like this and it will be completely useless. I guess that means you are cool or something, right? you win at something? Trust me, there is no such thing as sidetracking on this forum. I haven't seen a single useful post for days in GD. Also, I do win, I enjoy watching people waste their time thinking they're snarky, and then it turns out it was a cannibal troll. |
Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
668
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Posted - 2013.05.29 13:25:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Jin Robot wrote:Thanks for trolling Cat Merc, This forum only needs a little bit more sidetracking, real post hiding troll spam like this and it will be completely useless. I guess that means you are cool or something, right? you win at something? Trust me, there is no such thing as sidetracking on this forum. I haven't seen a single useful post for days in GD. Also, I do win, I enjoy watching people waste their time thinking they're snarky, and then it turns out it was a cannibal troll. I am not saying I dont enjoy a good show of twist em up, but just that it is 60% QQ 30% troll 10% intelligent discussion in here. I do so like intelligent discussion. |
Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1199
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Posted - 2013.05.29 13:36:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Jin Robot wrote:Thanks for trolling Cat Merc, This forum only needs a little bit more sidetracking, real post hiding troll spam like this and it will be completely useless. I guess that means you are cool or something, right? you win at something? Trust me, there is no such thing as sidetracking on this forum. I haven't seen a single useful post for days in GD. Also, I do win, I enjoy watching people waste their time thinking they're snarky, and then it turns out it was a cannibal troll. I am not saying I dont enjoy a good show of twist em up, but just that it is 60% QQ 30% troll 10% intelligent discussion in here. I do so like intelligent discussion. Trust me, I like the intelligent discussion too, you may go to one of the few threads that aren't a troll one, my TAR thread. And I wish intelligent stuff was more common here, but sadly it isn't. |
ER-Bullitt
Elements Of Death Elite Omega Commission
10
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Posted - 2013.05.30 13:59:00 -
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Dias Bailey wrote:currently, the only time you hit someone is from the splash. a direct shot usually ghosts it's way through the target.
Not true. Yes the easiest way to hit someone is shoot at their feet, or terrain next to them (wall, box, railing) but getting direct hits just takes a "pro-shot" like others have mentioned already. Pro shots are hard to pull off and take aim and skill. Like hitting a moving target sprinting left to right with a sniper rifle at 300m out.
If I have to lead the target, fire a slow moving projectile, and I only have 3 rounds... when I hit that **** better do a ton of damage.
This weapon becomes very beastly when people stand in front of it, or if the user has the advantage of an elevated position looking down on the enemy. This is especially true if the enemy is standing still or moving slowly firing at their target. It is almost useless shooting up at someone who has the high ground on you, and fast moving suits. So like everything else in the game (besides the DTAC with modded controller).. tactics, position, strategy all play into the usefulness. Some people get it, they practice, they learn to counter... others just come to the forums to QQ about it.
And talk about QQ, ran into a full squad of douchebags running DTACS with modded controllers last night in Domination. All 6 of them were running around popping shots at people.. and they ALMOST lost, one of them went 4-17 kdr.. that was the funniest part. /end QQ |
Bob Teller
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
4
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Posted - 2013.06.18 15:01:00 -
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Bullets2yaface wrote:STOP CRYING nerf this nerf that i got my ass whooped by this and that. People always wanna cry i get killed by DTAC i get ran over i get killed by an HMG just shut up and deal with it they shouldn't nerf every weapon because half the players wanna cry when they cant figure out what to do. Heres a hint Flaylock cant hit people in the air well except some of us who aim directly. Do you see the guys beatin ur ass crying about it no IF YOU CANT BEAT EM JOIN EM
Oh about splash damage being so strong it makes sense because its such a concentrated blast just like the grenades pay attention..
Every game is a learning experience just because you didn't learn doesn't mean there wasn't a lesson So you think players that were saying tacar was op should had shut up?If you cant beat em join them?That sure makes a nice gaming experience wen 80% of playerbase was using tacar.Dont talk about balance Buddy,,,,just dont,makes you sound stupid;) |
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