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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.05.28 11:19:00 -
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Sorry, but I don't like having a weapon be just as effective shooting to the ground and shooting to the body.
The Mass Driver is the only weapon that should be able to do that, as its a crowd control low damage splash, and its a light weapon.
Before you say anything, the splash range is very small on the standard level, but going for prototype shooting the ground is far more effective.
Last time I checked, the only difference between direct hit damage, and splash damage is 20 HP. |
pegasis prime
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.05.28 11:21:00 -
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Haha I believe this is the first flaylock QQ thread . Congratulations let me present you with the ceremonial rocket to the face  |
Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.05.28 11:25:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Haha I believe this is the first flaylock QQ thread . Congratulations let me present you with the ceremonial rocket to the face
Not really, I enjoy firing on the ground and watch people send me hate mail for using a "noob tube".
Just like I do with the GLU
However, I see the problem with a weapon having the same damage both ways. |
Jenova's Witness
The Unholy Legion of Darkstar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.05.28 11:28:00 -
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Switch all flaylock pistol's damage with MD damage. |
Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2013.05.28 11:29:00 -
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Its better that people who use it ask for a nerf now anyway.
Because otherwise the QQers will come onto the forums spreading false info about it so that it gets a major nerf and becomes useless. *Cough* Laser Rifles *Cough* |
SoCal Ninja
IMPSwarm
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.28 11:30:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:
However, I see the problem with a weapon having the same damage both ways.
Funny, I thought you liked it both ways.
JK - That joke was set up to nicely for me to ignore, even have to put in my login information for that one. Please carry on with your thread, I'm sure much flame and whine will become of it with is always the true mark of a good post in these forums. Peace. |
Knight SoIaire
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Posted - 2013.05.28 11:31:00 -
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Jenova's Witness wrote:Switch all flaylock pistol's damage with MD damage.
That would make the MD OP.
Just imagine it, the damage of a Core Flaylock, with the splash radius of a Freedom. |
Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.05.28 11:32:00 -
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SoCal Ninja wrote:Cat Merc wrote:
However, I see the problem with a weapon having the same damage both ways.
Funny, I thought you liked it both ways. JK - That joke was set up to nicely for me to ignore, even have to put in my login information for that one. Please carry on with your thread, I'm sure much flame and whine will become of it with is always the true mark of a good post in these forums. Peace.
Dammit... |
Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.05.28 11:34:00 -
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Knight SoIaire wrote:Jenova's Witness wrote:Switch all flaylock pistol's damage with MD damage. That would make the MD OP. Just imagine it, the damage of a Core Flaylock, with the splash radius of a Freedom.
I didn't have extensive use of the MD, but my results are:
This weapon is fine, as long as you don't encounter shields.
Which is why I suggested that they increase a bit the damage to shields and reduce a bit the damage to armor.
Just a little, so it won't be completely useless against shields. |
DS 10
G I A N T
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.28 11:35:00 -
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Proto FPs are insane. I can't tell if they're OP or not because I've never used them, but there are definitely some FP monsters out there. It is kinda frustrating going 1v1 as a heavy and getting dropped while not missing a shot. No biggie though. |
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Greasepalms
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.05.28 11:36:00 -
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it's fine, stop crying. |
pegasis prime
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.05.28 11:36:00 -
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I think the point in the flylocks dammage difference between splash and direct dammage being so low is that the primary dammage is intentionally splash it could be possible that the extra dammage recieved by a direc hit is primarilly the force of impact fron the rocket. |
Jenova's Witness
The Unholy Legion of Darkstar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.05.28 11:38:00 -
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Knight SoIaire wrote:Jenova's Witness wrote:Switch all flaylock pistol's damage with MD damage. That would make the MD OP. Just imagine it, the damage of a Core Flaylock, with the splash radius of a Freedom.
Standard Flaylock already out damages the Freedom. MD already took a huge nerf to splash radius and range. Might as well throw them a bone. Think about it, when's the last time you were killed by a MD or let alone seen someone dumb enough to use one? |
Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2013.05.28 11:42:00 -
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Jenova's Witness wrote:Knight SoIaire wrote:Jenova's Witness wrote:Switch all flaylock pistol's damage with MD damage. That would make the MD OP. Just imagine it, the damage of a Core Flaylock, with the splash radius of a Freedom. Standard Flaylock already out damages the Freedom. MD already took a huge nerf to splash radius and range. Might as well throw them a bone. Think about it, when's the last time you were killed by a MD or let alone seen someone dumb enough to use one?
A while, but as a Scout I die to pretty much everything now and again. 
I agree with MDs getting a buff (I used them in Chromosone when I wasn't in a tank, Proto one too)
But I think giving it +220 Damage is a bit too far, especially with it having a +4m splash radius.
Heavies and Gallente suits would become extinct if it was buffed that much, not to mention what would happen to Scouts.
It needs to be rolled back to what it was like in Chromosone, I thought it was perfect back then. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.28 11:50:00 -
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-1 |
Otoky
DIOS EX.
Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2013.05.28 11:50:00 -
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Or not. |
Cat Merc
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2013.05.28 11:57:00 -
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People seem to not understand me.
I don't encounter many proto flaylock's in pub matches, so it isn't really a problem for me.
However, I run the proto flaylock and let me tell ya, its TOO good.
I had to check if maybe I was playing in the Academy by some glitch, but no.
If it stays as is, alright, I will continue having an awesome weapon in my hands that beats everything. |
Jenova's Witness
The Unholy Legion of Darkstar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.05.28 12:01:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:People seem to not understand me.
I don't encounter many proto flaylock's in pub matches, so it isn't really a problem for me.
However, I run the proto flaylock and let me tell ya, its TOO good.
I had to check if maybe I was playing in the Academy by some glitch, but no.
If it stays as is, alright, I will continue having an awesome weapon in my hands that beats everything.
It can't beat a TAR or LA-  it can't beat a TAR. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.28 12:04:00 -
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Beats everything? I guess it's time for me to invest in a caldari logi and duvolle tac. |
Karazantor
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.28 12:13:00 -
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Jenova's Witness wrote:Knight SoIaire wrote:Jenova's Witness wrote:Switch all flaylock pistol's damage with MD damage. That would make the MD OP. Just imagine it, the damage of a Core Flaylock, with the splash radius of a Freedom. Standard Flaylock already out damages the Freedom. MD already took a huge nerf to splash radius and range. Might as well throw them a bone. Think about it, when's the last time you were killed by a MD or let alone seen someone dumb enough to use one?
Regularly killed by MD's here - but as i'm usually in a scout suit I guess thats no surprise. I certainly don't understand the moaning about how underpowered they, but then I don't use them either. |
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Bullets2yaface
L.O.T.I.S.
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.28 12:16:00 -
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STOP CRYING nerf this nerf that i got my ass whooped by this and that. People always wanna cry i get killed by DTAC i get ran over i get killed by an HMG just shut up and deal with it they shouldn't nerf every weapon because half the players wanna cry when they cant figure out what to do. Heres a hint Flaylock cant hit people in the air well except some of us who aim directly. Do you see the guys beatin ur ass crying about it no IF YOU CANT BEAT EM JOIN EM
Oh about splash damage being so strong it makes sense because its such a concentrated blast just like the grenades pay attention..
Every game is a learning experience just because you didn't learn doesn't mean there wasn't a lesson |
Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.05.28 12:20:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:Beats everything? I guess it's time for me to invest in a caldari logi and duvolle tac.
Anything not broken ;) |
Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.05.28 12:20:00 -
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Bullets2yaface wrote:STOP CRYING nerf this nerf that i got my ass whooped by this and that. People always wanna cry i get killed by DTAC i get ran over i get killed by an HMG just shut up and deal with it they shouldn't nerf every weapon because half the players wanna cry when they cant figure out what to do. Heres a hint Flaylock cant hit people in the air well except some of us who aim directly. Do you see the guys beatin ur ass crying about it no IF YOU CANT BEAT EM JOIN EM
Oh about splash damage being so strong it makes sense because its such a concentrated blast just like the grenades pay attention..
Every game is a learning experience just because you didn't learn doesn't mean there wasn't a lesson
lol butthurt. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
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Posted - 2013.05.28 12:25:00 -
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The splash radius is very small, if you get killed by one, then that person earned their kill. |
Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2013.05.28 12:28:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Beats everything? I guess it's time for me to invest in a caldari logi and duvolle tac. Anything not broken ;)
Any non gallente suit + plasma launcher, laser, or sniper. Or a scout + any other sidearm. |
Cat Merc
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2013.05.28 12:30:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:The splash radius is very small, if you get killed by one, then that person earned their kill.
Sigh, not reading the entirety of the post.
I AM THE ONE USING THE PROTO FLAYLOCK, AND I AM THE ONE THAT GETS THE EASY KILLS.
2.5 meters is not small in any way, considering that with maxed out Flaylock skill you get 3.1 meters.
Its EASY. |
Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.05.28 12:43:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:The splash radius is very small, if you get killed by one, then that person earned their kill.
hey listen, this guy claims 3m splash radius on a fast moving projectile is small 
denial too obvious  |
Needless Sacermendor
Red Fox Brigade
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Posted - 2013.05.28 12:48:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:The splash radius is very small, if you get killed by one, then that person earned their kill. Sigh, not reading the entirety of the post. I AM THE ONE USING THE PROTO FLAYLOCK, AND I AM THE ONE THAT GETS THE EASY KILLS.2.5 meters is not small in any way, considering that with maxed out Flaylock skill you get 3.1 meters. Its EASY.
I love the way people say how much benefit you get from maxed out skills ... wihout mentioning how many million sp it requires invested in 1 weapon tree (a sidearm at that).
I have no real opinion on the proto flaylock, I use the advanced one and on a suit stacked with triple damage mods yes, it kicks ass, but that doesn't say the weapon is OP ... it says the weapon can be made more potent at the expense of survivability.
My opinion^^ |
Bullets2yaface
L.O.T.I.S.
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.28 12:53:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:The splash radius is very small, if you get killed by one, then that person earned their kill. Sigh, not reading the entirety of the post. I AM THE ONE USING THE PROTO FLAYLOCK, AND I AM THE ONE THAT GETS THE EASY KILLS.2.5 meters is not small in any way, considering that with maxed out Flaylock skill you get 3.1 meters. Its EASY.
NO maxed out its 2.5m
Every game is a learning experience just because you didn't learn doesn't mean there wasn't a lesson |
Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.05.28 13:04:00 -
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Bullets2yaface wrote:Cat Merc wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:The splash radius is very small, if you get killed by one, then that person earned their kill. Sigh, not reading the entirety of the post. I AM THE ONE USING THE PROTO FLAYLOCK, AND I AM THE ONE THAT GETS THE EASY KILLS.2.5 meters is not small in any way, considering that with maxed out Flaylock skill you get 3.1 meters. Its EASY. NO maxed out its 2.5m Every game is a learning experience just because you didn't learn doesn't mean there wasn't a lesson
Proto flaylock = 2.5m explosion radius.
2.5 * 1.25 = 3.125
Also, that quote is useless in the context of this thread.
So I learned to only use the flaylock since it outshines any other sidearm.
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