DUST Search - Meta should stop when the boots hit the ground

hgghyujh wrote:

CCP has already stated that they are implementing a fix to prevent this from happening and I do agree in this case it is not like eve, as it currently stands awoxing olny serves to freeze bringing new members into the corp, It should require a betrayal of trust not some random in your corp spamming the join battle button.

CCP is first implementing a white list and then a corp role that would allow them to select who will be in the battle or sommat like that.

frankly tho I would like to see PC opened up with some more regions and a merc contract tab added that would post the contracts that alliances put up for other mercs to defend their space, of course with a collateral and an all or nothing payout. for example the size of the payout and the size of the collateral would be based on the value that district had to them and how much someone might pay to have the contractees to throw the match, If the contractees fail to with they lose the collateral and get no isk for the match.

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Zekain K Expert Intervention Caldari State 42	Posted - 2013.05.28 04:19:00 - [61] - Quote NOC, is Zitro nuking the corp because of that loss you guys had? Is he kicking everyone who neg bombed or something? Or did you just leave?
Blueberry Pop Grief University 2	Posted - 2013.05.28 04:54:00 - [62] - Quote We are an esteemed group of 12 year olds with spies in every corporation. Our characters are funded by our moms' credit cards and we can only play when school is out (we have the summer open!) We'll always be around!
Heinz Doofenshertz BetaMax. CRONOS. 398	Posted - 2013.05.28 05:29:00 - [63] - Quote just a note, the meta never stops
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. CRONOS. 1652	Posted - 2013.05.28 05:31:00 - [64] - Quote Zekain K wrote: NOC, is Zitro nuking the corp because of that loss you guys had? Is he kicking everyone who neg bombed or something? Or did you just leave? Gotta be annoying to start a thread about hating the concept of meta-gaming only to have people rag on you about your Corp tag having changed in the intervening time. Not that I have ANY sympathy.
CrotchGrab 360 Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 81	Posted - 2013.05.28 11:23:00 - [65] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Considering that shooting the enemy is also metagaming. I don't see why it should STOP on the ground, its what you're getting paid to kill. The meta interfering is a problem. If 1 person can tank the whole match, just give them a "lose battle and leave corp" button. No fun having people show up and no one to fight. it isn't fun, no. it's childish, CCP will fix it or let their game be doomed by children who seriously need to be beat by their parents more. Grief Uni I am staring directly at you; through a sight on a tactical AR.
Geirskoegul Soul-Strike 178	Posted - 2013.05.29 05:28:00 - [66] - Quote CrotchGrab 360 wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Considering that shooting the enemy is also metagaming. I don't see why it should STOP on the ground, its what you're getting paid to kill. The meta interfering is a problem. If 1 person can tank the whole match, just give them a "lose battle and leave corp" button. No fun having people show up and no one to fight. it isn't fun, no. it's childish, CCP will fix it or let their game be doomed by children who seriously need to be beat by their parents more. Grief Uni I am staring directly at you; through a sight on a tactical AR. And that's why you should screen your recruits better. The meta is every bit as important in PC in Dust as it is on the EVE side. Hell, even the official, sanctioned tournaments have meta, with spais revealing fleet compositions and setups, or people even being bought off to throw the match! This is simply part of the game, and an optional one at that; no one is forcing you to participate in Planetary Conquest, where Dust meets EVE in the most extreme way. If you want to avoid the metagaming that is at the heart of EVE, stick to the modes that aren't meant to be the heart of EVE and Dust's interaction. FW is still fun (when people aren't OSing their own positions as an i-win button; we really do need FF turned on), and the toughest opponents honestly seem to be in the instant-action matches. So if what you want is straight-up honest fragging? Head to instant action, where the only consequences are that of replacing your fittings and there's zero incentive to AWOX (well, unless they just hate you; but since friendly fire is off, there's nothing they can do against you directly, and very little indirectly).
Cosgar's Alt Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.05.29 05:31:00 - [67] - Quote I knew this was going to happen. Everyone from the FPS side of the community is so enamored with a fair fight while the EVE portion licked their chops from the sidelines, knowing what was coming when things got real. I would say welcome to New Eden, but by your delicious tears, I can already see you guys have already been formally welcomed. Continue to cry about it, it only makes their Epeens harder.
hgghyujh Expert Intervention Caldari State 7	Posted - 2013.05.29 05:49:00 - [68] - Quote CCP has already stated that they are implementing a fix to prevent this from happening and I do agree in this case it is not like eve, as it currently stands awoxing olny serves to freeze bringing new members into the corp, It should require a betrayal of trust not some random in your corp spamming the join battle button. CCP is first implementing a white list and then a corp role that would allow them to select who will be in the battle or sommat like that. frankly tho I would like to see PC opened up with some more regions and a merc contract tab added that would post the contracts that alliances put up for other mercs to defend their space, of course with a collateral and an all or nothing payout. for example the size of the payout and the size of the collateral would be based on the value that district had to them and how much someone might pay to have the contractees to throw the match, If the contractees fail to with they lose the collateral and get no isk for the match.
hgghyujh Expert Intervention Caldari State 7	Posted - 2013.05.29 05:57:00 - [69] - Quote CrotchGrab 360 wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Considering that shooting the enemy is also metagaming. I don't see why it should STOP on the ground, its what you're getting paid to kill. The meta interfering is a problem. If 1 person can tank the whole match, just give them a "lose battle and leave corp" button. No fun having people show up and no one to fight. it isn't fun, no. it's childish, CCP will fix it or let their game be doomed by children who seriously need to be beat by their parents more. Grief Uni I am staring directly at you; through a sight on a tactical AR. good god man you need to take a step back from the game if it has you this worked up(speaking of a child that needed to be beat by his parrents) CCP knows that the current model is not workable in the long term(my corp has gone into a recruiting freeze for this reason, as will all corps with two cents, although there are work arounds) and is fixing the problem I'm sure its been mentioned in the forums so you should probably use the search feature.
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 166	Posted - 2013.05.29 06:30:00 - [70] - Quote Solders and politics never mix well. But last time I checked.. it's not the military that gets replaced. A "hot fix" will be placed. passwords probably used. Skype love orgies will be had. (By the way, any one ever play the game "WEREWOLF?" You try and figure out which villager is the wolf. yeah that's also meta gaming) But a win in dust still amounts to those boots being on the ground. and if you suck at FPS aspect of DUST. Then you will not go far. Unless your going to try and bribe.. oh right this eden. Eh.. sighs that "werewolf" game again. Bloody reason why I'm a merc for hire. let everyone else deal with that spy crap. I'll fight for those who pay me. But i do have honor and won't do *** ** like spying. I'm in this to fight against the best. Not play clue. a lot of people play clue A lot people play "werewolf" too. to each it's own i guess.

Geirskoegul Soul-Strike 179	Posted - 2013.05.29 07:05:00 - [71] - Quote hgghyujh wrote: CCP has already stated that they are implementing a fix to prevent this from happening and I do agree in this case it is not like eve, as it currently stands awoxing olny serves to freeze bringing new members into the corp, It should require a betrayal of trust not some random in your corp spamming the join battle button. CCP is first implementing a white list and then a corp role that would allow them to select who will be in the battle or sommat like that. frankly tho I would like to see PC opened up with some more regions and a merc contract tab added that would post the contracts that alliances put up for other mercs to defend their space, of course with a collateral and an all or nothing payout. for example the size of the payout and the size of the collateral would be based on the value that district had to them and how much someone might pay to have the contractees to throw the match, If the contractees fail to with they lose the collateral and get no isk for the match. And that's a reasonable fix: corp roles to be able to invite / participate. Kicks (after the match has started) are not a good fix, because it eliminates consequence.
Novawolf McDustingham The514th Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 115	Posted - 2013.05.29 07:31:00 - [72] - Quote They should just have a commander that has kick powers in PC matches. End of story.


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