Do you know how hard it would be to hit a smart tank pilot with 10 AV grenades?

As a AV expert you should have an idea right?

Even more so if that tank has a squad of boots with him.

for a enforcer caldari minimum you would need around 10.5mil spec for full spec 12mil.

Why would anybody use an enforcer? Complete waste of SP if there are any other tankers in a game at all.

Actually, its not hard to hit the very BEST tanker in the game. For example, in PC vs SI i put on my dampened proto scout with speed mods and ran behind a tank faaaar away from anyone on my team and threw 4 proto AV nades at him. Took off all his sheilds and he ran into a rock and blew him self up trying to get away from me. Dident matter cuz i was on a hive throwing unlimited proto av nades no matter were he went i was going to kill him. I dont think that 10 av nades should be the magic number but 3 to 5 is alittle cheap to take down proto tanks

The boots on the ground (and the driver) didn't do a good job of watching his flank and something bad happened (as it should).

That scenario could have played out numerous ways though, and that was a PC match. Pubs never have the level of coms squads do on PC. Plus 4 proto grenades SHOULD take off his shields, what kind of tank was it?


It looks to me like you played it smart and flanked a whole squad plus the tank; it might not work every single time though.

If you were sitting on a hive spamming nades someone should be dealing with you, even more so before you got to that point.

If not congrats.

Because it gives +3% to damage and range and +2% to zoom per level. Yeah its more than twice as expensive and its only slightly better than a standard but its the only thing we have... tottal waste of resources but its a tiny bit better

Why are you replying to the other guys question?

Is this Void Echoes alt?

hahahah +1 :) Its my thread i do what i want!

The boots on the ground (and the driver) didn't do a good job of watching his flank and something bad happened (as it should).

That scenario could have played out numerous ways though, and that was a PC match. Pubs never have the level of coms squads do on PC. Plus 4 proto grenades SHOULD take off his shields, what kind of tank was it?


It looks to me like you played it smart and flanked a whole squad plus the tank; it might not work every single time though.

If you were sitting on a hive spamming nades someone should be dealing with you, even more so before you got to that point.

If not congrats.

Because it gives +3% to damage and range and +2% to zoom per level. Yeah its more than twice as expensive and its only slightly better than a standard but its the only thing we have... tottal waste of resources but its a tiny bit better

Still seems like a total waste to me.

you know AV nades are more anti armor right? not anti shield.

Welllll sence were both each others alts i will trade you one boot for your hats N stuff

I have 7 million SP and am specced into FG. Have a glass cannon fitting just for powerful tanks.

Currently there are a couple of Madrugars I cannot solo unless they get up close, but because the tanker is competent I get killed if we get into close range of each other. This is even when the tanker does not have a death squad of infantry to back him up. Even with people giving swarm launcher and other FG support, these tanks can't be taken down easily or taken down at all for an entire match.

Then you have these jokers in poorly fitted tanks, or using them all wrong and getting blown up in a matter of seconds.

Wait till the advanced and prototype tanks roll out. There will probably be a number of nigh-unkillable tanks that will take dedicated AV players working in tandem against them to even just give them some area denial, and a bunch of whiners who get their expensive toys blown up because they don't know what they're doing but just grind up, and then continue to complain that AV is overpowered.

It's working as intended. If you have something to complain about FG or AV in general, please shut up and HTFU.

Why are you replying to the other guys question?

Is this Void Echoes alt?

You guys have similiar patterns while writing.

Eventually, and soon, "speccing into AV" won't mean anything. People will decide they're at a good place with their main spec, and the smart ones will drop a million SP or so into whichever AV weapon their favored suit can fit, instead of pursuing "upgrades" whose effects are marginal at best. At that point the SP cost of AV "specs" will simply be however much SP any given player decides to drop into the weapon's skills.

This is what will ultimately and completely unbalance the current AV vs. Vehicle paradigm. If CCP is smart, they've recognized this and they have the proto vehicles and proto mods ready to go, but are holding them back until they think AV saturation is sufficient to warrant their release. If not, the whole thing will just go to **** in the coming months.

A giant crapton of misleading math

You know its funny because as OP as AV is supposed to be a squad of 4 guys trying to take on duna2002's tank with some forge guns and av grenades still hasnt dented the thing and we have played against him for i think 5 or 6 rounds in a row... So in all fairness i would like to know who is able to solo a good tank and from there i want to see that person go against duna (who is not part of my corp or alliance) and see if u still think that AV is overpowered