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Doran Gallen
Empire Ballistic Assault Force
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Posted - 2013.05.27 08:27:00 -
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The Scrambler Rifle,is right now my favorite weapon.I can tear through a heavy with this and a flux grenade.Not to mention the charge fire which lets me one shot scouts.This weapon has saved me from a lot of "ninjas" and killed me a few times because of it overheating.Haven't tried out the assault version though.And I love the red dot thing.I don't see why not many use this,It's a great gun if you can manage the overheat and can aim well.What do you guys think about this new gun and what are your experiences with it?
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crazy space 1
Unkn0wn Killers
1258
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Posted - 2013.05.27 08:30:00 -
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I love it, honestly it's like a mid range shotgun when charged.
It makes me feel like megaman. |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
134
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Posted - 2013.05.27 08:38:00 -
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the assault kinda reminds me of the lazer rifle from chromosome. accuracy not range. |
Gigatron Prime
The.Primes
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Posted - 2013.05.27 09:03:00 -
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Currently, the Scrambler Rifle is the most balanced gun in the game. |
I-Shayz-I
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
283
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Posted - 2013.05.27 09:55:00 -
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Imperial Scrambler Rifle Level 4 Proficiency
I love this weapon for how scary it is. I sit there and absorb bullets from a guy while he thinks he has the advantage since I'm not shooting at him.
What he doesn't realize is that I'm lining up a charge shot. If that doesn't one shot him, the next 4 or 5 in quick succession will. |
The Robot Devil
BetaMax. CRONOS.
290
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Posted - 2013.05.27 10:08:00 -
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I have been running the standard version with no skills and it is fun, sounds great and the charge shot is a fun bonus. I usually run the LR so I know all about heat build up and while it does cause me to die either directly or indirectly I can manage it. I agree that the SCAR seems balanced and is fun to use. |
Kalante Schiffer
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
298
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Posted - 2013.05.27 10:15:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:I love it, honestly it's like a mid range shotgun when charged.
It makes me feel like megaman. oh wow lol
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Doran Gallen
Empire Ballistic Assault Force
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Posted - 2013.05.27 10:20:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:Imperial Scrambler Rifle Level 4 Proficiency
I love this weapon for how scary it is. I sit there and absorb bullets from a guy while he thinks he has the advantage since I'm not shooting at him.
What he doesn't realize is that I'm lining up a charge shot. If that doesn't one shot him, the next 4 or 5 in quick succession will.
I like to go after small groups of 2 assault guys,I throw a flux grenade then just 3-4 in quick succession for each.There was even this one time where I went toe to toe with a heavy who thought he could take me down even though he had no shields but full armor,I didn't even know then that you could take down a heavy with one full charge shot. |
Another Heavy SOB
TRUE TEA BAGGERS EoN.
77
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Posted - 2013.05.27 10:21:00 -
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They're alot of fun, especially with lvl4 proficiency. Charged shots OHK most all light frames, and some militia medium without even headshots.
I don't understand why you favour Flux grenades considering the SR's strength to shields and weakness against armor.
Despite the Imperial SR Max efficiency range being 48M I've downed ADV Med Caldaris with only two fully charged shots and a quick follow up or two at 60-70M, again without headshots. Although even at that range one to the head will nearly finish them. |
bethany valvetino
Bi-Polar Bunnies
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Posted - 2013.05.27 10:39:00 -
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are you really Loren Gallen? |
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oldhero
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.27 10:49:00 -
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Another Heavy SOB wrote:They're alot of fun, especially with lvl4 proficiency. Charged shots OHK most all light frames, and some militia medium without even headshots.
I don't understand why you favour Flux grenades considering the SR's strength to shields and weakness against armor.
Despite the Imperial SR Max efficiency range being 48M I've downed ADV Med Caldaris with only two fully charged shots and a quick follow up or two at 60-70M, again without headshots. Although even at that range one to the head will nearly finish them.
Most use a flux so that those 3-4 shots to take out shields go into depleting their armor in most case went your up against 3-4 ppl a flux gives you chance to kill them all nd survive whit about 20% armor left :) |
Aisha Ctarl
The Unholy Legion of Darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
135
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Posted - 2013.05.27 11:05:00 -
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Carthum Assault Scrambler Rifle
Scrambler Rifle Proficiency Level IV
One Enhanced Light Damage Mod
It drops people so fast I still haven't gotten used to it. |
Konohamaru Sarutobi
Ahrendee Mercenaries
258
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Posted - 2013.05.27 11:24:00 -
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So, you're clearly talking about a OP weapon. CCP Balance need to nerf this weapon immediatly.
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Another Heavy SOB
TRUE TEA BAGGERS EoN.
77
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Posted - 2013.05.27 12:10:00 -
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Konohamaru Sarutobi wrote:So, you're clearly talking about a OP weapon. CCP Balance need to nerf this weapon immediatly.
EDITED:
"honestly it's like a mid range shotgun when charged. "
"the assault kinda reminds me of the lazer rifle from chromosome. accuracy"
"Most use a flux so that those 3-4 shots to take out shields go into depleting their armor in most case went your up against 3-4 ppl a flux gives you chance to kill them all nd survive whit about 20% armor left :)"
"It drops people so fast I still haven't gotten used to it."
"Charged shots OHK most all light frames, and some militia medium without even headshots."
"What he doesn't realize is that I'm lining up a charge shot. If that doesn't one shot him, the next 4 or 5 in quick succession will."
This, ladies and gentlement is called HYPOCRISY.
Then, the assault rifle is OP. My God, what a crazy world.
LMFAO! Go use a SR then a TAC AR then come back and tell me which is OP.
While OHK may be possible it requires SKILL and is a rare occurrence not a common outcome. Beyond that it's overheat function is extremely unforgiving.
The idea that you can determine a weapon to be OP based on a few people's comments about it and never actually trying it yourself is laughable at best. |
Konohamaru Sarutobi
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.05.27 12:13:00 -
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Another Heavy SOB wrote:Konohamaru Sarutobi wrote:So, you're clearly talking about a OP weapon. CCP Balance need to nerf this weapon immediatly.
EDITED:
"honestly it's like a mid range shotgun when charged. "
"the assault kinda reminds me of the lazer rifle from chromosome. accuracy"
"Most use a flux so that those 3-4 shots to take out shields go into depleting their armor in most case went your up against 3-4 ppl a flux gives you chance to kill them all nd survive whit about 20% armor left :)"
"It drops people so fast I still haven't gotten used to it."
"Charged shots OHK most all light frames, and some militia medium without even headshots."
"What he doesn't realize is that I'm lining up a charge shot. If that doesn't one shot him, the next 4 or 5 in quick succession will."
This, ladies and gentlement is called HYPOCRISY.
Then, the assault rifle is OP. My God, what a crazy world. LMFAO! Go use a SR then a TAC AR then come back and tell me which is OP. While OHK may be possible it requires SKILL and is a rare occurrence not a common outcome. Beyond that it's overheat function is extremely unforgiving. The idea that you can determine a weapon to be OP based on a few people's comments about it and never actually trying it yourself is laughable at best.
I'm tired of kill people with TARs, so I can tell you the same. It's not OP if you suck. Don't confuse OP, with skill, with you playing like a parrow |
Another Heavy SOB
TRUE TEA BAGGERS EoN.
77
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Posted - 2013.05.27 12:29:00 -
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Konohamaru Sarutobi wrote:Another Heavy SOB wrote:Konohamaru Sarutobi wrote:So, you're clearly talking about a OP weapon. CCP Balance need to nerf this weapon immediatly.
EDITED:
"honestly it's like a mid range shotgun when charged. "
"the assault kinda reminds me of the lazer rifle from chromosome. accuracy"
"Most use a flux so that those 3-4 shots to take out shields go into depleting their armor in most case went your up against 3-4 ppl a flux gives you chance to kill them all nd survive whit about 20% armor left :)"
"It drops people so fast I still haven't gotten used to it."
"Charged shots OHK most all light frames, and some militia medium without even headshots."
"What he doesn't realize is that I'm lining up a charge shot. If that doesn't one shot him, the next 4 or 5 in quick succession will."
This, ladies and gentlement is called HYPOCRISY.
Then, the assault rifle is OP. My God, what a crazy world. LMFAO! Go use a SR then a TAC AR then come back and tell me which is OP. While OHK may be possible it requires SKILL and is a rare occurrence not a common outcome. Beyond that it's overheat function is extremely unforgiving. The idea that you can determine a weapon to be OP based on a few people's comments about it and never actually trying it yourself is laughable at best. I'm tired of kill people with TARs, so I can tell you the same. It's not OP if you suck. Don't confuse OP, with skill, with you playing like a parrow
Playing like parrow? WTF?
If you cannot see that the TAC outperforms every other AR variant by miles and is therefore broken then you sir are the hypocrite.
If you question my skill to use either weapon my Caldari AR is at 3.1 K/D(Thanks TAC!), Heavy 4.3 and my Ammar SR is at 2.6. |
Full Metal Kitten
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
580
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Posted - 2013.05.27 16:09:00 -
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Another Heavy SOB wrote:If you question my skill to use either weapon my Caldari AR is at 3.1 K/D(Thanks TAC!), Heavy 4.3 and my Ammar SR is at 2.6. Where do you find the time to kill people if you're so busy trying to dip your balls into the mouths of dead corpses? |
Cody Sietz
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
155
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Posted - 2013.05.27 16:20:00 -
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Hows that overheat working for ya?
Joking aside, its a great weapon and well balanced. I've died many a time to skilled players using it, and many times has a unskilled player died to me because they can't manage the overheat.
Seriously, I'm shocked out many people killed themselves by accident or just overheated long enough for me to finish them off. |
Green Living
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
323
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Posted - 2013.05.27 16:45:00 -
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Ladies a gentlemen I present to you the Laser Rifle, a complete failure of Amarr technology. What Amarr engineer decided the current iron sight was a good idea should be resold into slavery. |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
230
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Posted - 2013.05.27 16:53:00 -
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Skilled as far as proficiency 2 in SRs, and then realized, that while its a fun gun, its inferior to gallente ARs in every way :( |
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WyrmHero1945
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
328
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Posted - 2013.05.27 17:12:00 -
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Piece of crap, respeccing out of it ASAP. |
Doran Gallen
Empire Ballistic Assault Force
5
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Posted - 2013.05.28 03:32:00 -
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bethany valvetino wrote:are you really Loren Gallen?
No,sir, I am not.I don't think I have a brother by that name,but what do I know?I'm just a clone that won't even live past 5 minutes. Either that or I need to brush up on my lore.
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Greasepalms
Ahrendee Mercenaries
127
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Posted - 2013.05.28 03:37:00 -
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SR is pretty sweet... too bad no charge shot will save you from a rain of TAC bullets...
ps: try the scrambler with the flaylock for armor... have fun |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.05.28 03:42:00 -
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Full auto version melts caldari scum and proto logis and heavies and scouts. it really is beasty. i win alot against those TARs too. must get expensive losin 77k every two minutes, cause they run when their sheilds evaporate |
Auld Syne
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.28 04:53:00 -
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Your precious weapons overheats faster than a fat ***** at a renaissance fair. |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
148
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Posted - 2013.05.28 04:55:00 -
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Auld Syne wrote:Your precious weapons overheats faster than a fat ***** at a renaissance fair.
have you tried the assault version? you can fire all 72 rounds full auto with no overheating |
Doran Gallen
Empire Ballistic Assault Force
5
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Posted - 2013.05.28 05:16:00 -
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Doran Gallen wrote:bethany valvetino wrote:are you really Loren Gallen? No,sir, I am not.I don't think I have a brother by that name,but what do I know?I'm just a clone that won't even live past 5 minutes. Either that or I need to brush up on my lore.
Googled it,turns out you're referring to a total badass.I am ashamed for not knowing. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1651
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Posted - 2013.05.28 05:18:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:I love it, honestly it's like a mid range shotgun when charged.
It makes me feel like megaman. Or Samus Aran.
I've been rocking the Assault variant, and it's hilarious to watch a Tac AR user charge straight at me with his 5 Complex Shield Extender Caldari Logistics suit and just fall apart in front of me.
IMMENSELY satisfying. |
Imp Smash
On The Brink CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.28 07:34:00 -
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I like the idea of it. The damage drop off coupled with a shockingly short optimum range and dispersion (but no dispersion reduction skill!!!) makes it easy to get 2 good shots to the head and then be unable to finish anyone off.
I call it the cheerleader gun. Kdr dropped a bit below 3 since I started with it, but I average 32 assists per game! |
S0LlD SNAKE
PLAYSTATION4
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Posted - 2013.05.28 07:36:00 -
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untill it blows in yo face |
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Roldrage
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.28 09:14:00 -
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I decided to try the scrambler rifle on an old alt (had about 1.5million ISK and 500000 SP, not yet touched on this build) and the first match I went 25-3... I rather enjoy using the scrambler |
Another Heavy SOB
TRUE TEA BAGGERS EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.28 09:47:00 -
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Imp Smash wrote:I like the idea of it. The damage drop off coupled with a shockingly short optimum range and dispersion (but no dispersion reduction skill!!!) makes it easy to get 2 good shots to the head and then be unable to finish anyone off.
I call it the cheerleader gun. Kdr dropped a bit below 3 since I started with it, but I average 32 assists per game!
It is a kill assist machine, especially the Assault. Although only heavys can survive a full charged shot to the head within the Imperials optimal.
Also try out the Flaylock as a secondary, you'll get a few less assists.
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DeadlyAztec11
One-Armed Bandits Unclaimed.
384
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Posted - 2013.05.28 09:49:00 -
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I suck with the Scrambler rifle. I'm handy with that Scambler pistol, tho; 19/1. |
Knightshade Belladonna
WH0 G1VSA FL0CK GLOCKS
298
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Posted - 2013.05.28 09:51:00 -
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Gigatron Prime wrote:Currently, the Scrambler Rifle is the most balanced gun in the game.
if it's the only most balanced.. what are you using to judge balance with? |
Celestial Emperor
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.05.28 12:49:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:
What he doesn't realize is that I'm lining up a charge shot. If that doesn't one shot him, the next 4 or 5 in quick succession will.
I'm calling BS there. You'd have overheated and been SOL had you shot a charged shot then 4- 5 shots later. While the overheat animation was playing you'd be riddled with shots. And you are almost certainly going to die if you just stand there and get shot while you're trying to line up a shot. Even if it does it and doesn't kill him you'll probably be dead before you can shoot at him some more, and if you aren't it's highly unlikely you'd get the necessary shots to finish him off without being killed yourself. An assault rifle stomps a scrambler rifle in almost every situation. Of course, you must be in the academy to spout such a foolish statement. |
Celestial Emperor
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.05.28 12:55:00 -
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WyrmHero1945 wrote:Piece of crap, respeccing out of it ASAP.
Agreed. Anyone saying it's good has never used any of the other weapons in Dust 514. Getting a kill with it doesn't make it objectively good. A gun with 1 damage and low rate of fire can potentially kill something. For instance the Tactical Assault Rifle is the superior to the scrambler in every way. It has comparable damage, greater range, and while it has a smaller clip it doesn't have the backlash so you can unload your full clip without worry, which makes it far better at close range AND long range than the Scrambler Rifle. It's far more reliable, also. if you miss a couple of shots with a Tactical Assault Rifle you can just adjust your aim and try again. if you miss a couple of shots with the Scrambler Rifle you need to stop firing for the cooldown on the heat meter which is tantamount to seppuku in Dust 514. |
Alantir Kavees
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.28 13:37:00 -
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Many weapons will be tweaked soon. I'll keep playing with the ones I like, even if they aren't that good right now, as another respec may not occur anytime soon.
CCP Remnant wrote:We'll be making some adjustments to the rifle ranges in the near future. We're currently testing the Rail Rifle and Combat Rifle internally (the two missing archetypes). Within the assault rifle class the four weapon types will break down as follows:
Assault Rifle (Hybrid - Plasma) - short range Combat Rifle (Projectile - Autocannon) - short-mid range Scrambler Rifle (Laser - Pulse) - mid range Rail Rifle (Hybrid - Railgun) - long range
Keep in mind though that long range for an assault rifle is not equivalent to long range for a sniper rifle, so while they will adhere to existing category definitions don't expect massive differences in the distances between these weapons A lot of the original assault rifle variants (Breach, Burst, Tactical) were created to fill the gaps these newer weapons will fill and so mightGÇÖve felt out of place (not to mention we just plain made mistakes with some of them). The scrambler rifleGÇÖs optimal range will be increased and weGÇÖll be releasing an iteration of the Tactical Assault Rifle with a smaller clip and much wider hip-fire spread making it less effective in CQC. If that change alone does not prove enough we will walk the damage of the TAR down slowly. No big, sweeping changes this time.
Source: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=869944#post869944 |
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