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Icy TIG3R
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.26 20:16:00 -
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If you look at PDIGGY'S recent PC video, he's shooting his Tac AR faster than a Duvolle AR shoots.
But its fine right? |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.26 20:25:00 -
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Absolutely! It's still shooting too slow. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.26 20:26:00 -
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Icy TIG3R wrote:If you look at PDIGGY'S recent PC video, he's shooting his Tac AR faster than a Duvolle AR shoots.
But its fine right? Anyone surprised that the guy that said he was quitting Dust forever 6 times is still playing it?
I'm not. |
WhiskeyJack Otako
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
51
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Posted - 2013.05.26 20:35:00 -
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Icy TIG3R wrote:If you look at PDIGGY'S recent PC video, he's shooting his Tac AR faster than a Duvolle AR shoots.
But its fine right?
So you're saying that its firing faster than 750 rpm...with a single fire rifle that has a clip of 24-30. First, you can count that fast? Maybe you did super slow motion video analysis to ascertain the exact rpm?
I doubt any of that. You probably spend too much time standing in one spot, or running in straight lines completely out in the open and get really but hurt about whatever weapon kills you the most. I love killing reds who do that with my GLU-5.
If CCP does nerf the TAC - let me tell you what will happen. I'll pick up the best AR available and start killing you with that one too. Simple fact is this - its not the weapon that's killing you - its your tactics that are killing you.
Or just nerf everything and we can have a big pillow fight on Manis Peak - at least until someone kills some one with a pillow. That will get nerfed and I will have no recourse but to ***** slap you until you quit the game in the massive hissy fit that we all know is coming.
Have a Nice Day. |
Raizor Feddie
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
24
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Posted - 2013.05.26 20:38:00 -
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WhiskeyJack Otako wrote:Icy TIG3R wrote:If you look at PDIGGY'S recent PC video, he's shooting his Tac AR faster than a Duvolle AR shoots.
But its fine right? So you're saying that its firing faster than 750 rpm...with a single fire rifle that has a clip of 24-30. First, you can count that fast? Maybe you did super slow motion video analysis to ascertain the exact rpm? I doubt any of that. You probably spend too much time standing in one spot, or running in straight lines completely out in the open and get really but hurt about whatever weapon kills you the most. I love killing reds who do that with my GLU-5. If CCP does nerf the TAC - let me tell you what will happen. I'll pick up the best AR available and start killing you with that one too. Simple fact is this - its not the weapon that's killing you - its your tactics that are killing you. Or just nerf everything and we can have a big pillow fight on Manis Peak - at least until someone kills some one with a pillow. That will get nerfed and I will have no recourse but to ***** slap you until you quit the game in the massive hissy fit that we all know is coming. Have a Nice Day.
This for sure. |
Hel Zazaku
BetaMax. CRONOS.
18
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Posted - 2013.05.26 20:48:00 -
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WhiskeyJack Otako wrote:Icy TIG3R wrote:If you look at PDIGGY'S recent PC video, he's shooting his Tac AR faster than a Duvolle AR shoots.
But its fine right? So you're saying that its firing faster than 750 rpm...with a single fire rifle that has a clip of 24-30. First, you can count that fast? Maybe you did super slow motion video analysis to ascertain the exact rpm? I doubt any of that. You probably spend too much time standing in one spot, or running in straight lines completely out in the open and get really but hurt about whatever weapon kills you the most. I love killing reds who do that with my GLU-5. If CCP does nerf the TAC - let me tell you what will happen. I'll pick up the best AR available and start killing you with that one too. Simple fact is this - its not the weapon that's killing you - its your tactics that are killing you. Or just nerf everything and we can have a big pillow fight on Manis Peak - at least until someone kills some one with a pillow. That will get nerfed and I will have no recourse but to ***** slap you until you quit the game in the massive hissy fit that we all know is coming. Have a Nice Day.
Try harder. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjqvxXl8Iy8 |
Icy TIG3R
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
191
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Posted - 2013.05.26 20:55:00 -
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WhiskeyJack Otako wrote:Icy TIG3R wrote:If you look at PDIGGY'S recent PC video, he's shooting his Tac AR faster than a Duvolle AR shoots.
But its fine right? So you're saying that its firing faster than 750 rpm...with a single fire rifle that has a clip of 24-30. First, you can count that fast? Maybe you did super slow motion video analysis to ascertain the exact rpm? I doubt any of that. You probably spend too much time standing in one spot, or running in straight lines completely out in the open and get really but hurt about whatever weapon kills you the most. I love killing reds who do that with my GLU-5. If CCP does nerf the TAC - let me tell you what will happen. I'll pick up the best AR available and start killing you with that one too. Simple fact is this - its not the weapon that's killing you - its your tactics that are killing you. Or just nerf everything and we can have a big pillow fight on Manis Peak - at least until someone kills some one with a pillow. That will get nerfed and I will have no recourse but to ***** slap you until you quit the game in the massive hissy fit that we all know is coming. Have a Nice Day.
Dude.
You're bad.
Moving on, I could, GUARANTEED, destroy you in a 1 on 1 with any weapon while you use a tac , any tac. You can ask others for confirmation.
You're a fool to think that its not overpowered. Everything has been nerfed until the TAC is the only weapon that has its own league.
The AR is a beginners weapon. The tac AR is an OP beginners weapon.
*tips hat* |
WhiskeyJack Otako
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
51
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Posted - 2013.05.26 21:05:00 -
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Icy TIG3R wrote:WhiskeyJack Otako wrote:Icy TIG3R wrote:If you look at PDIGGY'S recent PC video, he's shooting his Tac AR faster than a Duvolle AR shoots.
But its fine right? So you're saying that its firing faster than 750 rpm...with a single fire rifle that has a clip of 24-30. First, you can count that fast? Maybe you did super slow motion video analysis to ascertain the exact rpm? I doubt any of that. You probably spend too much time standing in one spot, or running in straight lines completely out in the open and get really but hurt about whatever weapon kills you the most. I love killing reds who do that with my GLU-5. If CCP does nerf the TAC - let me tell you what will happen. I'll pick up the best AR available and start killing you with that one too. Simple fact is this - its not the weapon that's killing you - its your tactics that are killing you. Or just nerf everything and we can have a big pillow fight on Manis Peak - at least until someone kills some one with a pillow. That will get nerfed and I will have no recourse but to ***** slap you until you quit the game in the massive hissy fit that we all know is coming. Have a Nice Day. Dude. You're bad. Moving on, I could, GUARANTEED, destroy you in a 1 on 1 with any weapon while you use a tac , any tac. You can ask others for confirmation. You're a fool to think that its not overpowered. Everything has been nerfed until the TAC is the only weapon that has its own league. The AR is a beginners weapon. The tac AR is an OP beginners weapon. *tips hat*
ahh so you're a comedian/troll. I'll bring my pillow. |
semperfi1999
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
461
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Posted - 2013.05.26 21:05:00 -
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Icy TIG3R wrote:WhiskeyJack Otako wrote:Icy TIG3R wrote:If you look at PDIGGY'S recent PC video, he's shooting his Tac AR faster than a Duvolle AR shoots.
But its fine right? So you're saying that its firing faster than 750 rpm...with a single fire rifle that has a clip of 24-30. First, you can count that fast? Maybe you did super slow motion video analysis to ascertain the exact rpm? I doubt any of that. You probably spend too much time standing in one spot, or running in straight lines completely out in the open and get really but hurt about whatever weapon kills you the most. I love killing reds who do that with my GLU-5. If CCP does nerf the TAC - let me tell you what will happen. I'll pick up the best AR available and start killing you with that one too. Simple fact is this - its not the weapon that's killing you - its your tactics that are killing you. Or just nerf everything and we can have a big pillow fight on Manis Peak - at least until someone kills some one with a pillow. That will get nerfed and I will have no recourse but to ***** slap you until you quit the game in the massive hissy fit that we all know is coming. Have a Nice Day. Dude. You're bad. Moving on, I could, GUARANTEED, destroy you in a 1 on 1 with any weapon while you use a tac , any tac. You can ask others for confirmation. You're a fool to think that its not overpowered. Everything has been nerfed until the TAC is the only weapon that has its own league. The AR is a beginners weapon. The tac AR is an OP beginners weapon. *tips hat*
Half of your statement is correct. The tact is not OP as much as its an issue with the changes that CCP made with the other weapons. IE laser is worthless and its supposed to be the antitac weapon.
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Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1638
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Posted - 2013.05.26 21:11:00 -
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semperfi1999 wrote:Icy TIG3R wrote:WhiskeyJack Otako wrote:Icy TIG3R wrote:If you look at PDIGGY'S recent PC video, he's shooting his Tac AR faster than a Duvolle AR shoots.
But its fine right? So you're saying that its firing faster than 750 rpm...with a single fire rifle that has a clip of 24-30. First, you can count that fast? Maybe you did super slow motion video analysis to ascertain the exact rpm? I doubt any of that. You probably spend too much time standing in one spot, or running in straight lines completely out in the open and get really but hurt about whatever weapon kills you the most. I love killing reds who do that with my GLU-5. If CCP does nerf the TAC - let me tell you what will happen. I'll pick up the best AR available and start killing you with that one too. Simple fact is this - its not the weapon that's killing you - its your tactics that are killing you. Or just nerf everything and we can have a big pillow fight on Manis Peak - at least until someone kills some one with a pillow. That will get nerfed and I will have no recourse but to ***** slap you until you quit the game in the massive hissy fit that we all know is coming. Have a Nice Day. Dude. You're bad. Moving on, I could, GUARANTEED, destroy you in a 1 on 1 with any weapon while you use a tac , any tac. You can ask others for confirmation. You're a fool to think that its not overpowered. Everything has been nerfed until the TAC is the only weapon that has its own league. The AR is a beginners weapon. The tac AR is an OP beginners weapon. *tips hat* Half of your statement is correct. The tact is not OP as much as its an issue with the changes that CCP made with the other weapons. IE laser is worthless and its supposed to be the antitac weapon. The issue is that it's like Heavy Missiles used to be in EVE: good at everything. There just isn't anything it isn't good at. All it needs is to be more specialized. |
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Hel Zazaku
BetaMax. CRONOS.
18
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Posted - 2013.05.26 21:12:00 -
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ITT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=r2wyWPBRfxY&feature=fvwp
You're all bad. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
754
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Posted - 2013.05.26 21:14:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:semperfi1999 wrote:Icy TIG3R wrote:WhiskeyJack Otako wrote:Icy TIG3R wrote:If you look at PDIGGY'S recent PC video, he's shooting his Tac AR faster than a Duvolle AR shoots.
But its fine right? So you're saying that its firing faster than 750 rpm...with a single fire rifle that has a clip of 24-30. First, you can count that fast? Maybe you did super slow motion video analysis to ascertain the exact rpm? I doubt any of that. You probably spend too much time standing in one spot, or running in straight lines completely out in the open and get really but hurt about whatever weapon kills you the most. I love killing reds who do that with my GLU-5. If CCP does nerf the TAC - let me tell you what will happen. I'll pick up the best AR available and start killing you with that one too. Simple fact is this - its not the weapon that's killing you - its your tactics that are killing you. Or just nerf everything and we can have a big pillow fight on Manis Peak - at least until someone kills some one with a pillow. That will get nerfed and I will have no recourse but to ***** slap you until you quit the game in the massive hissy fit that we all know is coming. Have a Nice Day. Dude. You're bad. Moving on, I could, GUARANTEED, destroy you in a 1 on 1 with any weapon while you use a tac , any tac. You can ask others for confirmation. You're a fool to think that its not overpowered. Everything has been nerfed until the TAC is the only weapon that has its own league. The AR is a beginners weapon. The tac AR is an OP beginners weapon. *tips hat* Half of your statement is correct. The tact is not OP as much as its an issue with the changes that CCP made with the other weapons. IE laser is worthless and its supposed to be the antitac weapon. The issue is that it's like Heavy Missiles used to be in EVE: good at everything. There just isn't anything it isn't good at. All it needs is to be more specialized.
Heavy missiles are still great, I just bought another platform due to losing the formers to different... substances. |
Cass Barr
Red Star. EoN.
66
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Posted - 2013.05.26 21:23:00 -
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Which video are we talking about?
And the fact that CCP has nerfed everything to the breaking point is hardly a reason to continue down the same path. Especially since CCP's already said they're going to be increasing ranges on other weapons. And yes fix the LR, and quit nerfing weapons by modifying EVERYTHING on the gun at once.
TAR's need a small hip fire spread increase to force ADS'ing at mid range, and a ROF decrease to fix the QQ for what I believe is probably a largely imaginary problem of modded controllers and mouse wheel firing or macros or whatever the latest theory is.
I wouldn't mind a roll back of the 10% damage buff on them, but as usual someone stacking damage mods is still going to get very high damage out of a weapon. |
WhiskeyJack Otako
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
51
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Posted - 2013.05.26 21:28:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:
The issue is that it's like Heavy Missiles used to be in EVE: good at everything. There just isn't anything it isn't good at. All it needs is to be more specialized.
Heavy missiles hit the target once locked. With the TAC you have to aim and hit targets at range and close up. Quick scoping a shotgun scout who is jumping all over as he approaches is not an easy thing to do with a TAC. It requires more skill than any spray and pray weapon.
I'd consider this argument if I only died to TACs - but that's not the case. Lately grenades, LAVs, other AR, scrambler rifles, flaylocks, tanks, the occasional forge gun have taken clones off me. What's a laser btw? The only thing that seems out of kilter to me is the collision damage of the LAVs. Raging about what's killing you is pretty dumb, learning to combat it is pretty smart. Crying to CCP about it is just more tear-fuel for my dropsuit.
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WhiskeyJack Otako
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
51
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Posted - 2013.05.26 21:30:00 -
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Cass Barr wrote:Which video are we talking about?
And the fact that CCP has nerfed everything to the breaking point is hardly a reason to continue down the same path. Especially since CCP's already said they're going to be increasing ranges on other weapons. And yes fix the LR, and quit nerfing weapons by modifying EVERYTHING on the gun at once.
TAR's need a small hip fire spread increase to force ADS'ing at mid range, and a ROF decrease to fix the QQ for what I believe is probably a largely imaginary problem of modded controllers and mouse wheel firing or macros or whatever the latest theory is.
I wouldn't mind a roll back of the 10% damage buff on them, but as usual someone stacking damage mods is still going to get very high damage out of a weapon.
Lol, but don't nerf everything about the weapon...right. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
504
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Posted - 2013.05.26 22:00:00 -
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Icy TIG3R wrote:If you look at PDIGGY'S recent PC video, he's shooting his Tac AR faster than a Duvolle AR shoots.
But its fine right? I did, 7 rounds per second for max rof is just over 12.
oh and here said video as proof. |
Icy TIG3R
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
193
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Posted - 2013.05.26 22:05:00 -
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WhiskeyJack Otako wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:
The issue is that it's like Heavy Missiles used to be in EVE: good at everything. There just isn't anything it isn't good at. All it needs is to be more specialized.
Heavy missiles hit the target once locked. With the TAC you have to aim and hit targets at range and close up. Quick scoping a shotgun scout who is jumping all over as he approaches is not an easy thing to do with a TAC. It requires more skill than any spray and pray weapon. I'd consider this argument if I only died to TACs - but that's not the case. Lately grenades, LAVs, other AR, scrambler rifles, flaylocks, tanks, the occasional forge gun have taken clones off me. What's a laser btw? The only thing that seems out of kilter to me is the collision damage of the LAVs. Raging about what's killing you is pretty dumb, learning to combat it is pretty smart. Crying to CCP about it is just more tear-fuel for my dropsuit. Clearly you're bad, its ridiculously easy to CQC with a tac, it has 0 recoil, just spray and pray.
Also, please keep an eye out for the kill feed when not pub stomping, 90% of the kills are tac's with the occasional LAV, SR, and grenades. |
XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1788
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Posted - 2013.05.26 22:07:00 -
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Icy TIG3R wrote:If you look at PDIGGY'S recent PC video, he's shooting his Tac AR faster than a Duvolle AR shoots.
But its fine right?
It takes my Heavy down in 5 seconds, 647 I think in shields and Armor 506 |
Cass Barr
Red Star. EoN.
67
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Posted - 2013.05.26 22:10:00 -
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Watch the kill feed on that video. Looks like TAR's are hardly dominating competitive play. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2013.05.26 22:38:00 -
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Cass Barr wrote:Watch the kill feed on that video. Looks like TAR's are hardly dominating competitive play. there is actually a lot of TARs used in that video. |
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Justin Tymes
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
132
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Posted - 2013.05.26 22:41:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Icy TIG3R wrote:If you look at PDIGGY'S recent PC video, he's shooting his Tac AR faster than a Duvolle AR shoots.
But its fine right? Anyone surprised that the guy that said he was quitting Dust forever 6 times is still playing it? I'm not. EDIT: Oh my God. This guy is terrible. He's using a Caldari Logi suit with the Tac AR and he still can't hit anyone for crap, and starts out the match by throwing down REs to get cheap kills. This is just pathetic. And he probably blames it all on game mechanics, too.
Not saying he's the best player, but lol QQ about REs. Learn how to look at the ground. Learn how to wide turn a corner. |
WhiskeyJack Otako
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
51
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Posted - 2013.05.26 22:51:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Icy TIG3R wrote:If you look at PDIGGY'S recent PC video, he's shooting his Tac AR faster than a Duvolle AR shoots.
But its fine right? I did, 7 rounds per second for max rof is just over 12. oh and here said video as proof.
Seven rounds per second is 420 rounds per minute. Besides being another reason to love the TAC, it's nowhere near that of the Duvolle AR. The max rof gets close at 720, but that's not sustainable nor accurate fire because there is kick and dispersion. Likely it's panic twitching or it's the fabled 'modded controller' |
Gunner Nightingale
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
614
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Posted - 2013.05.26 22:55:00 -
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Icy TIG3R wrote:WhiskeyJack Otako wrote:Icy TIG3R wrote:If you look at PDIGGY'S recent PC video, he's shooting his Tac AR faster than a Duvolle AR shoots.
But its fine right? So you're saying that its firing faster than 750 rpm...with a single fire rifle that has a clip of 24-30. First, you can count that fast? Maybe you did super slow motion video analysis to ascertain the exact rpm? I doubt any of that. You probably spend too much time standing in one spot, or running in straight lines completely out in the open and get really but hurt about whatever weapon kills you the most. I love killing reds who do that with my GLU-5. If CCP does nerf the TAC - let me tell you what will happen. I'll pick up the best AR available and start killing you with that one too. Simple fact is this - its not the weapon that's killing you - its your tactics that are killing you. Or just nerf everything and we can have a big pillow fight on Manis Peak - at least until someone kills some one with a pillow. That will get nerfed and I will have no recourse but to ***** slap you until you quit the game in the massive hissy fit that we all know is coming. Have a Nice Day. Dude.
You're bad.Moving on, I could, GUARANTEED, destroy you in a 1 on 1 with any weapon while you use a tac , any tac. You can ask others for confirmation. You're a fool to think that its not overpowered. Everything has been nerfed until the TAC is the only weapon that has its own league. The AR is a beginners weapon. The tac AR is an OP beginners weapon. *tips hat*
Said the guy NOT to come over with the bunnies A team.
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lllIIIlI IIIlIl
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
44
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Posted - 2013.05.26 23:09:00 -
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It's fine. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
504
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Posted - 2013.05.26 23:13:00 -
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WhiskeyJack Otako wrote:ladwar wrote:Icy TIG3R wrote:If you look at PDIGGY'S recent PC video, he's shooting his Tac AR faster than a Duvolle AR shoots.
But its fine right? I did, 7 rounds per second for max rof is just over 12. oh and here said video as proof. Seven rounds per second is 420 rounds per minute. Besides being another reason to love the TAC, it's nowhere near that of the Duvolle AR. The max rof gets close at 720, but that's not sustainable nor accurate fire because there is kick and dispersion. Likely it's panic twitching or it's the fabled 'modded controller' you can see in the video they barely won by MCC with 5 clones left and the blue team fielded a ton TARs. the TAR "RoF" is 789.5 the normal is 750 and the rest kindof go on their own for balancing while the TAR doesn't. I just posted the video in reply to the OP about cheating/modding as that's kindof important as theres no humanly way for a person to pop off a RoF of 650+ and there are clear cut user of modding controller/mice that do and those are the ones I want gone. a RoF near or at the bearch AR is fine which is 400 last time I checked. |
Ryuichi Kakihara
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.05.26 23:31:00 -
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WhiskeyJack Otako wrote:ladwar wrote:Icy TIG3R wrote:If you look at PDIGGY'S recent PC video, he's shooting his Tac AR faster than a Duvolle AR shoots.
But its fine right? I did, 7 rounds per second for max rof is just over 12. oh and here said video as proof. Seven rounds per second is 420 rounds per minute. Besides being another reason to love the TAC, it's nowhere near that of the Duvolle AR. The max rof gets close at 720, but that's not sustainable nor accurate fire because there is kick and dispersion. Likely it's panic twitching or it's the fabled 'modded controller'
What is this "modded controller" ? Isn't it easier to just push turbo mode on firing button and watch the bullets fly at maximum speed ? :o |
IceShifter Childhaspawn
DUST University Ivy League
3
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Posted - 2013.05.26 23:38:00 -
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An animation lock or a bit of recoil/ muzzle rise could fix this right quickly. No one wants to have invincible suits or weapons that rival a pillow/ tactical nuke in DPS. Its not about tears, its about balancing the game. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1644
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Posted - 2013.05.27 00:50:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Icy TIG3R wrote:If you look at PDIGGY'S recent PC video, he's shooting his Tac AR faster than a Duvolle AR shoots.
But its fine right? Anyone surprised that the guy that said he was quitting Dust forever 6 times is still playing it? I'm not. EDIT: Oh my God. This guy is terrible. He's using a Caldari Logi suit with the Tac AR and he still can't hit anyone for crap, and starts out the match by throwing down REs to get cheap kills. This is just pathetic. And he probably blames it all on game mechanics, too. Not saying he's the best player, but lol QQ about REs. Learn how to look at the ground. Learn how to wide turn a corner. I never get killed by those, man, because I play Blacklight: Retribution, which I like to call Prox-mine: Retribution. If I didn't look at the ground in that game, I would never get a single kill.
What I was commenting on is what you can see from all his other videos. Back in E3 when the things would arm instantly and you could use them like contact-detonating super-grenades, all those 40+ kill streaks he got came from throwing REs at people and blowing them up before they could even shoot back. That's pretty damn pathetic. |
XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers EoN.
368
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Posted - 2013.05.27 00:51:00 -
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Tac needs more range. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1644
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Posted - 2013.05.27 00:59:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Tac needs more range. Clearly. |
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