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Luxuro
Nox Aeterna Security
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Posted - 2013.05.26 19:43:00 -
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I the last week that I've been playing I was revived once, I mean I still use nanite injectors even though they are messed up at. I thought it strange that I found few others using them since they give a pretty decent amount of WP |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
477
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Posted - 2013.05.26 19:45:00 -
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Too badly screwed up to actually use them effectively. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
752
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Posted - 2013.05.26 19:46:00 -
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I do, but if you're not in my squad and 20+ meters away, you get no love. |
Azura Sakura
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
16
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Posted - 2013.05.26 19:47:00 -
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Luxuro wrote:I the last week that I've been playing I was revived once, I mean I still use nanite injectors even though they are messed up at. I thought it strange that I found few others using them since they give a pretty decent amount of WP of course we do.... But it will bug out a lot. If you have a logi bro/girl within 0meters for more then 10 seconds better off respawning. also there has been countless of times I go for a quick revive but the **** bugs out and I die |
Malkai Inos
The Vanguardians Orion Empire
136
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Posted - 2013.05.26 19:48:00 -
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I do use them. It's still very hit and miss though and because of that it's of much lower priority to me than repping or fighting back.
It's a shame. Since they work so rarely, logibros rarely use them. Since people rarely use them, no one waits for logibros. Since no one waits for logibros, they use them even less. Enter the vicious circle... |
Luxuro
Nox Aeterna Security
2
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Posted - 2013.05.26 19:50:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Too badly screwed up to actually use them effectively.
Oh yeah, I have to run in circles around a body to "find" the trigger spot and if it doesn't pop up I fell like I just left someone to die |
Skyhound Solbrave
Rough Riders..
101
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Posted - 2013.05.26 19:50:00 -
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I still do. Though they are so stupidly broken I've been tempted to just replace it with uplinks.
It only takes a bit of circling to realize if someone's body is glitched or not. If they are, I give up and move on to someone else that could use my help. I have gotten lucky where it will work for a whole game, though it is still extremely annoying to have to find the spot where it works. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1633
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Posted - 2013.05.26 19:51:00 -
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Played last night. Watched that nice little indicator show a guy run up to me with an injector.
And then run straight past.
Rather frustrating.
Don't carry the damn things if you aren't going to rez people. It's like being a tease. |
Jadek Menaheim
WarRavens
8
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Posted - 2013.05.26 19:53:00 -
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....and if the body slid down a hill or embankment, there's really no possibility of a revive. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1633
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Posted - 2013.05.26 19:55:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:....and if the body slid down a hill or embankment, there's really no possibility of a revive. Right, because ragdolling is client-side. |
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Exergonic
TeamPlayers EoN.
25
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Posted - 2013.05.26 19:58:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Played last night. Watched that nice little indicator show a guy run up to me with an injector.
And then run straight past.
Rather frustrating.
Don't carry the damn things if you aren't going to rez people. It's like being a tease.
Don't jump before you die... And don't get hit by LAVs
Half the damn time we have to stick someone 5 times in order for it to work
They might have tried but CCPs servers suck |
Nova Fortis
Commando Perkone Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.05.26 19:59:00 -
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I try initially, but if it doesn't seem like it's going to work after a few seconds, I'm going to high-tail it out of there. |
Justin Tymes
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
131
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Posted - 2013.05.26 20:02:00 -
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On my solo proto Gallente suit, but nowhere else. So sad too. I used to love reviving a fallen heavy to 80% of his health. |
Malkai Inos
The Vanguardians Orion Empire
136
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Posted - 2013.05.26 20:03:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote: Don't carry the damn things if you aren't going to rez people.
That is exacly what i'm silently yelling at them when it happens.
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Obodiah Garro
Tech Guard General Tso's Alliance
35
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Posted - 2013.05.26 20:07:00 -
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I always carry one but its damn near impossible to revive people. Strangely enough I get more success if I position myself close the legs... either way the new revive system doesn't work at all. |
Malkai Inos
The Vanguardians Orion Empire
136
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Posted - 2013.05.26 20:12:00 -
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Obodiah Garro wrote:I always carry one but its damn near impossible to revive people. Strangely enough I get more success if I position myself close the legs... either way the new revive system doesn't work at all. That is because physics dictate that the legs generally move the least when someone just drops dead and actually a good aproach with people who got shot.
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Tore Matta
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.05.26 20:14:00 -
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Nope, I used to be a Logi during Chromosome, but dropped it in favor of an AV build for Uprising. Since few actually ask to be revived and even less can actually be helped due to how messed up it is right now.
Not to mention with the increased use of LAVs and other vehicles that's been happening lately, business as an AV has been great.
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Kaylee Veloc
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2013.05.26 20:26:00 -
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Over the last 3 or so days I've been trying to Logi it up again with an injector and rep tool, it's still so random when a revive will happen.
Example; I saw another logi trying to revive a fallen ally and saw the animation kick in twice but the guy didn't get up, I ran past and saw the revive prompt so stabbed him, he got up. (I was using the KIN-012 if that makes any difference?)
Other times the symbol for revive will be there and I just can't find the spot, I felt so sorry for this guy that said on the mic "can you heal me" as I was right next to him with needle out strafing around trying to find a stab point then he bled out and said "maybe not" :( (I just keep coms on to listen I still don't have a mic yet so couldn't even explain >_< so if you see this sorry dude)
The times it has worked I've had most success like others have said around the legs/ankles. |
mollerz
s1ck3r Corp
310
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Posted - 2013.05.26 21:48:00 -
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The other day, I repeatedly nova knifed a caldari logi in the back to no effect while he tried to Rez his squadmate to no effect. this went on for awhile. It got pretty silly |
KingBabar
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
618
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Posted - 2013.05.26 21:51:00 -
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I do carry but I hardly ever get the option to use it. |
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knight of 6
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
166
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Posted - 2013.05.26 21:52:00 -
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i still use them, but i wount stick out my neck for anybody anymore. you gotta be in a pretty safe spot for me to attempt to rez you and even then if i don't get a hit in like 5 attempts I'll just move on. |
Aqua-Regia
Ahrendee Mercenaries
112
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Posted - 2013.05.26 21:56:00 -
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Luxuro wrote:I the last week that I've been playing I was revived once, I mean I still use nanite injectors even though they are messed up at. I thought it strange that I found few others using them since they give a pretty decent amount of WP ^ This (same for me)
Maybe if CCP make it 70wp we see more nanite injectors.LOL |
PonyClause Rex
TRAMADOL KNIGHTS
21
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Posted - 2013.05.26 22:01:00 -
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If they changed it so you don't have to physicly switch to the module to use it for example if you have it equipped and hit Circle for instance then they spring back to life and you have weapon back in your hands
the same could be said for the knife if that's equipped then why hit your opponent with the but of your rifle?
ya dig? |
Darkstar Militarius
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
12
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Posted - 2013.05.26 22:19:00 -
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PonyClause Rex wrote:If they changed it so you don't have to physicly switch to the module to use it for example if you have it equipped and hit Circle for instance then they spring back to life and you have weapon back in your hands
the same could be said for the knife if that's equipped then why hit your opponent with the but of your rifle?
ya dig?
Umm...... do you seriously not realise that this is exactly what they did?? Hit E/Circle near a fallen teammate, pops out the injector, stabs em, and pops back to your weapon/whatever you had out before. (This is, of course, when the reviving works properly) |
Bling Blaine
FrontLine-Coalition
116
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Posted - 2013.05.26 22:40:00 -
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Before Uprising I used them, now they are a waste of a slot, I use reppie, uplinks and 2 hives.
I am a really good logi when my needle works, but now that the needle is busted my logi effect is suffering a little. |
Loki Keller
Corvus Conspiracy
4
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Posted - 2013.05.26 23:07:00 -
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Oh I -try- to use nanite injectors. However, after 10 seconds or so of prodding the dead body and a 10 meter radius to no avail, either I give up, or the corpse does. Back in mag I never ran without the medspray, but in dust it gets me killed more than it revives people. :( |
Mocha Biscotti
Red Star. EoN.
27
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Posted - 2013.05.26 23:32:00 -
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I do, but uh, I spend most of my time trying to res telling my squadmate "don't bleed out I'm trying to stab your butt!!"
And then they tell me they might have jumped before they died. At which point I leave them. Because I have to spend a half and hour spinning around them trying to find their hitbox
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Daylon Daxx
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
12
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Posted - 2013.05.27 05:09:00 -
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It is such a shame the injector is buggy. I feel a bit foolish moving in circles, pounding the R1 button and nothing happening. I used to enjoy running around rezzing people when I played MAG.
I now call it the SMF Injector
As I am always screaming at the screen "WORK YOU S***** M***** F***** !!!"
Well, at least I know it's not my medic skills
Note to CCP: I have no problem monetarily supporting a "free" game, but when a game bug affects my enjoyment, I put my credit card away. |
S0LlD SNAKE
PLAYSTATION4
55
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Posted - 2013.05.27 05:13:00 -
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ppl dont use or dont have , i hardly being revived and i ask for help when i see team mates around |
J4yne C0bb
DUST University Ivy League
26
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Posted - 2013.05.27 05:37:00 -
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Daylon Daxx wrote:It is such a shame the injector is buggy. I feel a bit foolish moving in circles, pounding the R1 button and nothing happening. I used to enjoy running around rezzing people when I played MAG. I now call it the SMF Injector As I am always screaming at the screen "WORK YOU S***** M***** F***** !!!" Well, at least I know it's not my medic skills Note to CCP: I have no problem monetarily supporting a "free" game, but when a game bug affects my enjoyment, I put my credit card away.
All of this.
I'm a dedicated logi, so I haven't taken off my injector, but I'll tell you this: I'll give it a couple stabs, and if it doesn't work, I bug out. Otherwise I'm just sniper-bait. I hate running off like that, and it sucks for everybody.
I know that there are a lot of issues with Dust, but seriously: CCP needs to make the injector issue priority one. And I'm not saying that just cause I'm a logi. This is not the same type of issue as balancing or such -- don't get me wrong, these need to be addressed, but rezing is a basic game mechanic, and it's broken.
I'm not gonna QQ too hard about it, cause it's a free game. And no, you can't have my stuff, cause Dust has huge potential, and I plan to be in it for the long term. SoonerGäó or later, these issues will get resolved.
Having said that: I buy boosters on a regular basis, and I'm to the point where I've decided not to spend any more money with CCP unti it's fixed. Bottom line. |
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Doc Noah
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
22
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Posted - 2013.05.27 05:50:00 -
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If I died in a firefight with enemies around, I just respawn to save revivers from the pain of finding my body, attempt a revive, and die getting shot while doing it. If I die in a safe place and the reviver is within ~15 m, I give him/her a chance although most of the time they walk farther away... |
Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
99
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Posted - 2013.05.29 00:55:00 -
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i still use them but as soon as i press pass over the body and cant inject, i move on,i ant got time to be playing dance around to find the sweet spot. |
Greasepalms
Ahrendee Mercenaries
129
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Posted - 2013.05.29 00:57:00 -
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problem is if the needle hitbox is so much as 1 meter away from the corpse, medics will either die trying to find the hitbox or just ignore it after 1 or 2 failed attempts. |
Onesimus Tarsus
GamersForChrist
149
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Posted - 2013.05.29 00:59:00 -
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Luxuro wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Too badly screwed up to actually use them effectively. Oh yeah, I have to run in circles around a body to "find" the trigger spot and if it doesn't pop up I fell like I just left someone to die
They should treat it mechanically like the scanner or repping tool, but I'm sure dozens of people have said this. |
Jan Solar
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2013.05.29 01:41:00 -
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JESUS, WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO FIX THIS!? THIS IS RIDICULOUS!! |
icdedppul
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
11
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Posted - 2013.05.29 01:57:00 -
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Sadly with the way its setup right now where you have to find there footprint of when they died its ridiculously hard to use it effectively
best success is start at their feet and walk away from them as they usually fall in the direction they were travelling
atleast that is what I have found.. but pretty much gave up on using one as it usually takes me more time to find the body then it does for them to respawn which really just took 2 of us out of fighting for 12 seconds instead of 1 of us at |
Yeva Kalsani
Reckoners
113
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Posted - 2013.05.29 02:08:00 -
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You're better off bringing nanohives for the AV grenade refills, these days. Getting run over doesn't allow anybody to revive you anyway. |
greyarea67
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
19
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Posted - 2013.05.29 03:03:00 -
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I am not sure if it was a patch or because I dropped down to 480p but revs have been much more successful for me in the last week. I always equip the injector and "aim" at the feet when I hit R1. The circle button has not worked for me since Uprising was released.
I went from about a 5% success rate right after Uprising to about a 70% success rate recently. In Skirmish, hardly anyone bothers to wait for a rev anymore. I still manage to revive about 5 a game in Ambush. This past weekend in one match I think I had about 8. |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
63
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Posted - 2013.05.29 03:05:00 -
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Nanite injectors don't work all the time, sometimes the press 0 to revive teammate doesn't show up and I would rather live than stare at the ground looking for your death spot. CCP needs to make your body the target. |
Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
656
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Posted - 2013.05.29 03:53:00 -
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20% of the time, it works everytime. |
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Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
429
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Posted - 2013.05.29 03:54:00 -
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They're still incredibly spotting. In maps where I'd play medic on the frontlines pre-uprising, I'd probably see at least 6 revives. Now I can go an entire match without getting one off successfully, it makes coming in with the medic character seem mostly pointless. |
Hawkin P
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
34
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Posted - 2013.05.29 04:04:00 -
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NO BECAUSE THEY ARE TOTALLY BROKEN AND CCP WONT FIX THEM!!!!!!
Oh they will rush to fix an accidental ISK handout, but it's been almost a month and they haven't fixed nanite injectors. And so many other things. |
Draco Dustflier
Planetary Response Organisation
53
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Posted - 2013.05.29 06:29:00 -
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just have it so repair tools revive instead. that way nanocircuitry doesn't cover 2 items and logis dont have to dedicate themselves to triage (i like having ammo). just do it the same way they do it in planetside 2 |
Abron Garr
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
317
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Posted - 2013.05.29 13:49:00 -
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It seems like they are getting worse every week. A 60% chance of working has slipped to around 30%. |
Thorn Badblood
R.I.f.t
12
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Posted - 2013.05.29 14:40:00 -
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Stand at the downed persons feet and then use the nanite injector, I revive people all the time, never have any problems doing it. |
RKKR
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
31
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Posted - 2013.05.29 15:02:00 -
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Relevant topic.
Point 3 in this topic seemed to improve my revives lately. + what Thorrn Badblood said.
It's still nowhere as smooth as it should be. |
LXicon
Ill Omens EoN.
102
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Posted - 2013.05.29 15:45:00 -
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Dev Response On Possible Fix basically, they might just let the client do the inject where the rag-dolled corpse is and let the server check if it's close enough to where it thinks the body is.
that would be a great fix. i hope they do something soon. i've heard squad mates tell new player no to even use needles. i can't bare to take them out of my fit. i still try to do revives, but i give up much sooner than i used to. |
MCEINSTEIN08
Defective by Design
1
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Posted - 2013.05.29 16:07:00 -
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Used to play MAG, and I like the "medic kit" system better. No needles, just a spray of blue mist...
It was faster and much more reliable. Even if the body wasn't exactly where you see it flashing, it would work.
I still carry a Nanite Injectors with my in all my load-outs just because reviving save a load-out and it is 60 xps.
If you are in my surroundings and I can get to you, I will always try! :) |
KEROSIINI-TERO
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
386
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Posted - 2013.05.29 16:50:00 -
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Malkai Inos wrote:I do use them. It's still very hit and miss though and because of that it's of much lower priority to me than repping or fighting back.
It's a shame. Since they work so rarely, logibros rarely use them. Since people rarely use them, no one waits for logibros. Since no one waits for logibros, they use them even less. Enter the vicious circle...
Or "How Nanite Injectors were destroyd from working model into oblivion" in a single patch. |
Bigglesworth McQueen
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
77
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Posted - 2013.05.29 16:59:00 -
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I never leave the War Barge without them. Had a strange revive on Manus Peak last night where I revived somebody on a peak, before the ragdoll had finished sliding down, and upon revive they were at the bottom.
Teleport revive. |
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Geirskoegul
Soul-Strike
180
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Posted - 2013.05.29 17:06:00 -
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I prefer sniping, i love it, it's fun, but it's rarely useful with the current game and weapons (i keep pointing out that the real fix to the TAR is to put it in the sniper progression, not AR, and give it significant kickback per shot; it feels like it's meant to be a marksman rifle for aggressive, front-line squad support and counter-sniping, which is exactly what I the sniper want and need).
Since current sniping is so rarely useful, I go to my next favourite: squad support.
These days I roll logi almost exclusively, with an AR in the weapon slot, RR, injector, and uplinks.
I've actually been pretty good about getting in revives, and have more than once had someone notice me in local or shoot me an evemail thanking me for all the reps and rezzing.
The issue with injectors seems to be based on clipping issues. If someone dies on normal ground i've yet to not rez them on the first try (i sprint toward them, keep aim on the body, and spam left mouse with the thing out -- didn't know they'd implemented instant-access via the E key), almost always get them up, and can usually put my RR on them in time to keep them up long enough to get out of the line of fire for proper repairs.
If they're on top of ANYTHING, though, it won't work. Be that a container, a burm, a building, and goddess save you if it's on stairs. It might be worth trying (as a fix) letting the injector ignore clipping and letting it have a 0.5 meter range. Tnis wouldn't be too easily exploitable to rescue through objects, but if my observations and hypothesis are right and the problem is a clipping issue, it would both prove it and solve it (and so serve as a temporary fix while CCP investigates a more permanent one). |
Gilbatron
Free-Space-Ranger Nulli Secunda
93
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Posted - 2013.05.29 17:11:00 -
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i want a mix of the needle thing we currently have and the AV grenades we currently have
throw that thingie roughly in the same direction and it finds the body by itself |
Evil-Stuffed-Animal
Ahrendee Mercenaries
26
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Posted - 2013.05.29 17:14:00 -
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Luxuro wrote:I the last week that I've been playing I was revived once, I mean I still use nanite injectors even though they are messed up at. I thought it strange that I found few others using them since they give a pretty decent amount of WP
Nanites are broken. -The End |
Geirskoegul
Soul-Strike
180
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Posted - 2013.05.29 17:24:00 -
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Gilbatron wrote:i want a mix of the needle thing we currently have and the AV grenades we currently have
throw that thingie roughly in the same direction and it finds the body by itself Not sure if sarcastic, or just another Call of Halo idiot...
TL:DR No way in hell. |
Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
669
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Posted - 2013.05.29 17:48:00 -
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Attempt to save 1 clone for your team, down 2 clones instead. |
Alex Bradshaw
The Merc Net
30
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Posted - 2013.05.30 00:56:00 -
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I still use nanites, they work 50% of the time. The trouble is, people are so used to them being broken, they often do not wait to be revived. |
crazy space 1
Unkn0wn Killers
1295
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Posted - 2013.05.30 01:17:00 -
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they don't work so no |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
3333
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Posted - 2013.05.30 01:19:00 -
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Having only 1 equipment slot unless you're a logistics is the dumbest idea
Even if the things weren't buggy and the new death screen wasn't completely useless, you're much better off to keep a rep or a hive and just not die :/ |
Winsaucerer
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
120
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Posted - 2013.05.30 01:39:00 -
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I have been considering ditching them for an uplink or nano hive. Seems I'll get more use out of the slot that way. |
WASTED MERC
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2013.06.05 18:36:00 -
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used it couple minutes ago on the same guy twice in quick succession |
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