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Mithridates VI
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
1663
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Posted - 2013.05.26 00:21:00 -
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Hi CCP!
I'm been cruising around Academy for a while now, teaching new players the importance of running AV gear, and while driving supertanks in Academy has been effective for that, I don't imagine it's the intended function of this game mode.
Can you do SOMETHING to lock me out of Academy mode? Limit it to militia at the very least? I am regularly going 40-0 and making enough ISK to fund the next alt I take through the Academy system.
My corp, First IMPressions, is at the top of the KDR leaderboard now and I'm looking to take over the individual KDR board as well, as an indication of how broken this is.
Thanks,
Mith |
Kane Fyea
BetaMax. CRONOS.
174
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Posted - 2013.05.26 00:24:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:Hi CCP!
I'm been cruising around Academy for a while now, teaching new players the importance of running AV gear, and while driving supertanks in Academy has been effective for that, I don't imagine it's the intended function of this game mode.
Can you do SOMETHING to lock me out of Academy mode? Limit it to militia at the very least? I am regularly going 40-0 and making enough ISK to fund the next alt I take through the Academy system.
My corp, First IMPressions, is at the top of the KDR leaderboard now and I'm looking to take over the individual KDR board as well, as an indication of how broken this is.
Thanks,
Mith Yeeeaaaa exploiting it isn't going to help anyone you know. |
Azura Sakura
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
3
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Posted - 2013.05.26 00:25:00 -
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Nice way of turning the noobs away, keep it up. |
Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
702
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Posted - 2013.05.26 00:26:00 -
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I always assumed the academy was simply a placeholder because it screams "not sandbox". CCP is probably already looking at ways to integrate new mercenaries into the game without placing such restrictions on the freedom of who and what they can play against/with.
What I'm IMPlying is, there is no need to drive around in supertanks to send CCP a message. |
Full Metal Kitten
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
537
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Posted - 2013.05.26 00:27:00 -
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This thread could be worse. For example, if it had been written by ALMIGHTY FA1L. |
Mithridates VI
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
1663
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Posted - 2013.05.26 00:37:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Yeeeaaaa exploiting it isn't going to help anyone you know. If you keep throwing around the word "exploit" nobody is going to believe you when there actually is one.
Azura Sakura wrote:Nice way of turning the noobs away, keep it up. Back this up by providing evidence that anyone has left? The feedback from the academy players has only been positive and I'm keeping in touch with many of them to answer any questions they have about the game.
The suggestion that people are leaving keeps being made in relation to this, but only by ignorant people looking to slander me. Can you prove you're not one of those? |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
384
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Posted - 2013.05.26 00:45:00 -
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You word games ang sophistry simply suggest you are a big fat troll. Snorf snorf. |
Longshot Ravenwood
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
697
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Posted - 2013.05.26 00:48:00 -
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Supertanks are encouraged in academy play as they help encourage players to buy their own supertanks with real money when they see how cool they look. They're also awesome to blow up because you get the satisfaction of knowing that you're destroying someone's real life financial investment into the game & helping encourage them to reinvest.
Oh, and I'm not sure but on my non-aur account that I use for promoting the game through my blog I was kicked out of the Academy automatically at 600k sp. |
Longshot Ravenwood
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
697
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Posted - 2013.05.26 00:50:00 -
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Also, wrong forum. Which GM is on task for moving threads? This one needs to head to Tech Support/Bugs. |
Azura Sakura
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
3
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Posted - 2013.05.26 00:53:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Yeeeaaaa exploiting it isn't going to help anyone you know. If you keep throwing around the word "exploit" nobody is going to believe you when there actually is one. Azura Sakura wrote:Nice way of turning the noobs away, keep it up. Back this up by providing evidence that anyone has left? The feedback from the academy players has only been positive and I'm keeping in touch with many of them to answer any questions they have about the game. The suggestion that people are leaving keeps being made in relation to this, but only by ignorant people looking to slander me. Can you prove you're not one of those?
Don't have to. Dying multiply times isn't fun right? Trying to fight against someone who has a huge advantage over you isn't fun right? Hell, even that Game Trailer review is good enough evidence lol. The average (majority maybe) fps players out there are CoD and BF players who are use to people dying rather quickly or having a easy measure to combat certain tactics. Also, knowingly going into Academy and pulling out your "super" tank is a **** move (well...this is eve and what not x_x) but if you truly love this game and want it to grow. It is best to not crush the noobs in the Academy and in actually combat. But if you feel that you have to exploit the game mechanics to get attention, then go for it. Just want you to know you know must people judge the game from a couple of matches since its free.
http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/0w2q1c/dust-514-review
p.s. I also introduce my friends to this game both CoD and BF fanatics. They have yet to touch it again within 1-2 weeks of playing it, just my personal experience. |
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IRuby Heart
DIOS EX. Gentlemen's Agreement
696
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Posted - 2013.05.26 00:54:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Yeeeaaaa exploiting it isn't going to help anyone you know. If you keep throwing around the word "exploit" nobody is going to believe you when there actually is one. Azura Sakura wrote:Nice way of turning the noobs away, keep it up. Back this up by providing evidence that anyone has left? The feedback from the academy players has only been positive and I'm keeping in touch with many of them to answer any questions they have about the game. The suggestion that people are leaving keeps being made in relation to this, but only by ignorant people looking to slander me. Can you prove you're not one of those?
Bullshit |
Mithridates VI
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
1664
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Posted - 2013.05.26 01:05:00 -
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Azura Sakura wrote:Don't have to. Dying multiply times isn't fun right? Trying to fight against someone who has a huge advantage over you isn't fun right? Hell, even that Game Trailer review is good enough evidence lol. The average (majority maybe) fps players out there are CoD and BF players who are use to people dying rather quickly or having a easy measure to combat certain tactics. Also, knowingly going into Academy and pulling out your "super" tank is a **** move (well...this is eve and what not x_x) but if you truly love this game and want it to grow. It is best to not crush the noobs in the Academy and in actually combat. But if you feel that you have to exploit the game mechanics to get attention, then go for it. Just want you to know you know must people judge the game from a couple of matches since its free. http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/0w2q1c/dust-514-reviewp.s. I also introduce my friends to this game both CoD and BF fanatics. They have yet to touch it again within 1-2 weeks of playing it, just my personal experience.
"Despite your personal experience to the contrary, my uninformed common sense says otherwise, derp derp".
That's nice, dear. |
Mithridates VI
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
1664
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Posted - 2013.05.26 01:06:00 -
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IRuby Heart wrote:Bullshit That's not very gentlemanly of you.
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Longshot Ravenwood
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
697
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Posted - 2013.05.26 01:08:00 -
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Azura Sakura wrote:Trying to fight against someone who has a huge advantage over you isn't fun right?
The most rewarding kills I get are against superior opponents. Who wants to shoot fish in a barrel? |
Kane Fyea
BetaMax. CRONOS.
176
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Posted - 2013.05.26 01:19:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Yeeeaaaa exploiting it isn't going to help anyone you know. If you keep throwing around the word "exploit" nobody is going to believe you when there actually is one. Yea because I've said two things people have done in this game is an exploit the whole time I've been here which is about 10 months. So please don't attempt to slander my name again. |
Azura Sakura
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
5
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Posted - 2013.05.26 01:29:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:Azura Sakura wrote:Don't have to. Dying multiply times isn't fun right? Trying to fight against someone who has a huge advantage over you isn't fun right? Hell, even that Game Trailer review is good enough evidence lol. The average (majority maybe) fps players out there are CoD and BF players who are use to people dying rather quickly or having a easy measure to combat certain tactics. Also, knowingly going into Academy and pulling out your "super" tank is a **** move (well...this is eve and what not x_x) but if you truly love this game and want it to grow. It is best to not crush the noobs in the Academy and in actually combat. But if you feel that you have to exploit the game mechanics to get attention, then go for it. Just want you to know you know must people judge the game from a couple of matches since its free. http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/0w2q1c/dust-514-reviewp.s. I also introduce my friends to this game both CoD and BF fanatics. They have yet to touch it again within 1-2 weeks of playing it, just my personal experience. "Despite your personal experience to the contrary, my uninformed common sense says otherwise, derp derp". That's nice, dear. :( |
Dust HaHakoke
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2013.05.26 01:35:00 -
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You guys are aware that anything you say will be trolled by this guy right? |
Mithridates VI
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
1667
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Posted - 2013.05.26 01:49:00 -
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Azura Sakura wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:Azura Sakura wrote:Don't have to. Dying multiply times isn't fun right? Trying to fight against someone who has a huge advantage over you isn't fun right? Hell, even that Game Trailer review is good enough evidence lol. The average (majority maybe) fps players out there are CoD and BF players who are use to people dying rather quickly or having a easy measure to combat certain tactics. Also, knowingly going into Academy and pulling out your "super" tank is a **** move (well...this is eve and what not x_x) but if you truly love this game and want it to grow. It is best to not crush the noobs in the Academy and in actually combat. But if you feel that you have to exploit the game mechanics to get attention, then go for it. Just want you to know you know must people judge the game from a couple of matches since its free. http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/0w2q1c/dust-514-reviewp.s. I also introduce my friends to this game both CoD and BF fanatics. They have yet to touch it again within 1-2 weeks of playing it, just my personal experience. "Despite your personal experience to the contrary, my uninformed common sense says otherwise, derp derp". That's nice, dear. :( Aw, sorry if that upset. I honestly got the impression that was the angle you were coming from. I felt that I said quite clearly that there had been zero indication of people get butthurt about the tank. If people were raging about it, I might reconsider the approach, but they're not. They're actually getting quite good at jumping onto comms and working to bring it down.
This isn't about the risk to to feelings of noobs. The noobs are fine. This is about how farmable those noobs are before they wise up. That's the issue I'm pointing out. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1344
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Posted - 2013.05.26 01:49:00 -
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What's academy mode? |
Mithridates VI
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
1667
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Posted - 2013.05.26 01:51:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:What's academy mode? Instant battle academy is the only instant battle available before you hit 10k warpoints or 2m SP, unless you squad with someone to bring you into normal battles. |
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Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
384
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Posted - 2013.05.26 01:52:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:What's academy mode?
It's where "special" people like Mithridates go... |
Mithridates VI
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
1667
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Posted - 2013.05.26 01:53:00 -
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Dust HaHakoke wrote:You guys are aware that anything you say will be trolled by this guy right? Only if you're pretty obviously coming in to troll a thread which is a call to prevent this from being possible. There are plenty of other people grinding ISK in Academy who aren't posting about it.
Case in point:
Crash Monster wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:What's academy mode? It's where "special" people like Mithridates go...
Crash Monster posting a blatantly ableist attack, after trying to claim that I was the one trolling. Weaksauce. |
Enderr Wigginn
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
106
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Posted - 2013.05.26 01:55:00 -
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Great job Mithridates VI !!! Now all these noobs you are pounding on are going to be like wow tanks are a beast. The few that will stay all will become tank drivers and then we should see a small influx of tanks in pub matches. Since I am a dedicated forge gunner this is good news for me. In all seriousness thought justify it or troll has you will but pounding noobs is wrong. |
Azura Sakura
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
6
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Posted - 2013.05.26 01:56:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:Dust HaHakoke wrote:You guys are aware that anything you say will be trolled by this guy right? Only if you're pretty obviously coming in to troll a thread which is a call to prevent this from being possible. There are plenty of other people grinding ISK in Academy who aren't posting about it.
That is bad. I wasn't aware that people can get into the Academy. Cause you know, back in the day we didn't have anyone to try and hold hands. But imo (just my opinion) you have to be either an ******* or a scrub to farm on newbs . Can always pull out a troll build or murder taxi or crash drop ships into them lol |
Mithridates VI
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
1668
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Posted - 2013.05.26 01:58:00 -
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Azura Sakura wrote:But imo (just my opinion) you have to be either an ******* or a scrub to farm on newbs . Sure. And New Eden has tons of those. I'm just the one getting all the hate for bringing it up, but whatever, so long as somebody fixes it.
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Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
385
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Posted - 2013.05.26 01:58:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:Crash Monster posting a blatantly ableist attack, after trying to claim that I was the one trolling. Weaksauce.
Beauty, truth and meaning are all in the eye of the beholder... and you are still trolling. |
SoTah Pawp
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
17
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Posted - 2013.05.26 01:58:00 -
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"Oh, look, someone is showing CCP something broken about there idea! Let's troll him and call him out for bullshit!"
Yup - productivity on the forums continue as usual. |
Azura Sakura
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
6
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Posted - 2013.05.26 02:03:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:Azura Sakura wrote:But imo (just my opinion) you have to be either an ******* or a scrub to farm on newbs . Sure. And New Eden has tons of those. I'm just the one getting all the hate for bringing it up, but whatever, so long as somebody fixes it.
It does need to be fixed and I am not familiar with New Eden. Just a FPS player. But 1 thing I love about most EvE players or the communities is that most of them are asses, fun to read the posts on here and on EvE lol. I love forum dramas but continue on with your plan hopefully CCP will work this out |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
385
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Posted - 2013.05.26 02:04:00 -
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SoTah Pawp wrote:"Oh, look, someone is showing CCP something broken about there idea! Let's troll him and call him out for bullshit!" Yup - productivity on the forums continue as usual.
Do carebear tears have special properties that I'm unaware of? |
Kane Fyea
BetaMax. CRONOS.
177
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Posted - 2013.05.26 02:22:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:Azura Sakura wrote:But imo (just my opinion) you have to be either an ******* or a scrub to farm on newbs . Sure. And New Eden has tons of those. I'm just the one getting all the hate for bringing it up, but whatever, so long as somebody fixes it. If you really wanted it fixed you should have sent a petition to CCP instead of posting a thread about it. |
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Mithridates VI
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
1670
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Posted - 2013.05.26 02:35:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:Azura Sakura wrote:But imo (just my opinion) you have to be either an ******* or a scrub to farm on newbs . Sure. And New Eden has tons of those. I'm just the one getting all the hate for bringing it up, but whatever, so long as somebody fixes it. If you really wanted it fixed you should have sent a petition to CCP instead of posting a thread about it.
My two petition slots are constantly filled up with actual exploits. |
Mr Sprinklez
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.05.26 02:37:00 -
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I made this heavy alt recently and ended up in academy despite having a 7mil SP alt and obviously understood the game perfectly well. Despite the fact that I moved at the speed of a snail and could barely move around fast enough to find enemies before my team-mates killed them, I had 30+ K/DRs in every game I played until I made the WP to get out, and since Skirmish still doesn't effectively record stats, it took me a lot of games to get out of academy.
I think academy should only apply to the first character made on a PSN profile, so that you don't have seasoned vets massacring the poor lemmings. |
Mithridates VI
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
1672
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Posted - 2013.05.26 02:43:00 -
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Mr Sprinklez wrote:I think academy should only apply to the first character made on a PSN profile, so that you don't have seasoned vets massacring the poor lemmings.
Unfortunately, alternate PSNs are already so common as to make a PSN-based fix not so useful.
IMO, if you go anything like 30/0, you automatically graduate the Academy, and from there the instant battle will ideally have matchmaking capable of preventing you from going up against people with 10m SP. Academy seems to be the place where CCP make sure players understand what the controls do. Otherwise the WP requirement would be higher. Once you seem to understand how to shoot people, it should be up to matchmaking in regular instants to place you properly.
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Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
388
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Posted - 2013.05.26 02:44:00 -
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Mr Sprinklez wrote:I made this heavy alt recently and ended up in academy despite having a 7mil SP alt and obviously understood the game perfectly well. Despite the fact that I moved at the speed of a snail and could barely move around fast enough to find enemies before my team-mates killed them, I had 30+ K/DRs in every game I played until I made the WP to get out, and since Skirmish still doesn't effectively record stats, it took me a lot of games to get out of academy.
I think academy should only apply to the first character made on a PSN profile, so that you don't have seasoned vets massacring the poor lemmings.
I agree, and keep taking the opportunity to point out that if you put a limit on the account (ignoring respecs) you wouldn't have respec'd beta era alts with tons of SP being sent back through the academy. |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
97
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Posted - 2013.05.26 02:47:00 -
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if the game makes me too mad i just smack around my wife and kids. all this negative feedback has to go somewhere. |
Kane Fyea
BetaMax. CRONOS.
179
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Posted - 2013.05.26 02:51:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:Azura Sakura wrote:But imo (just my opinion) you have to be either an ******* or a scrub to farm on newbs . Sure. And New Eden has tons of those. I'm just the one getting all the hate for bringing it up, but whatever, so long as somebody fixes it. If you really wanted it fixed you should have sent a petition to CCP instead of posting a thread about it. My two petition slots are constantly filled up with actual exploits. It's not hard to make a 2nd account. |
SoTah Pawp
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
19
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Posted - 2013.05.26 02:51:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:SoTah Pawp wrote:"Oh, look, someone is showing CCP something broken about there idea! Let's troll him and call him out for bullshit!" Yup - productivity on the forums continue as usual. Do carebear tears have special properties that I'm unaware of? They actually do - if you collect enough of them you reach END GAME. :D |
Mithridates VI
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
1677
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Posted - 2013.05.26 03:03:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:Azura Sakura wrote:But imo (just my opinion) you have to be either an ******* or a scrub to farm on newbs . Sure. And New Eden has tons of those. I'm just the one getting all the hate for bringing it up, but whatever, so long as somebody fixes it. If you really wanted it fixed you should have sent a petition to CCP instead of posting a thread about it. My two petition slots are constantly filled up with actual exploits. It's not hard to make a 2nd account. That would be an exploit of the petition system. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1677
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Posted - 2013.05.26 03:21:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:Azura Sakura wrote:But imo (just my opinion) you have to be either an ******* or a scrub to farm on newbs . Sure. And New Eden has tons of those. I'm just the one getting all the hate for bringing it up, but whatever, so long as somebody fixes it. If you really wanted it fixed you should have sent a petition to CCP instead of posting a thread about it. You mean like how Betamax handled AWOXing? |
Kane Fyea
BetaMax. CRONOS.
180
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Posted - 2013.05.26 03:35:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:Azura Sakura wrote:But imo (just my opinion) you have to be either an ******* or a scrub to farm on newbs . Sure. And New Eden has tons of those. I'm just the one getting all the hate for bringing it up, but whatever, so long as somebody fixes it. If you really wanted it fixed you should have sent a petition to CCP instead of posting a thread about it. You mean like how Betamax handled AWOXing? You do know I don't help betamax at all. In fact, ever since they started doing that I've been wanting to leave this **** corp. |
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Kane Fyea
BetaMax. CRONOS.
180
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Posted - 2013.05.26 03:37:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Mithridates VI wrote: Sure. And New Eden has tons of those. I'm just the one getting all the hate for bringing it up, but whatever, so long as somebody fixes it.
If you really wanted it fixed you should have sent a petition to CCP instead of posting a thread about it. My two petition slots are constantly filled up with actual exploits. It's not hard to make a 2nd account. That would be an exploit of the petition system. Yea keep on trolling :). |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1677
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Posted - 2013.05.26 03:47:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote: You do know I don't help betamax at all. In fact, ever since they started doing that I've been wanting to leave this **** corp.
Are they using the corp lock exploit on you? I have respect for certain members, but as an entity Betamax has less than none. |
Kane Fyea
BetaMax. CRONOS.
180
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Posted - 2013.05.26 03:58:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:Kane Fyea wrote: You do know I don't help betamax at all. In fact, ever since they started doing that I've been wanting to leave this **** corp.
Are they using the corp lock exploit on you? I have respect for certain members, but as an entity Betamax has less than none. Nope just need to find another corp that will actually take me. Most of the other corps don't want me since they think i'm gonna AWOX them. I'm thinking of just joining dust uni.... |
Mithridates VI
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
1681
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Posted - 2013.05.26 04:02:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:Kane Fyea wrote: You do know I don't help betamax at all. In fact, ever since they started doing that I've been wanting to leave this **** corp.
Are they using the corp lock exploit on you? I have respect for certain members, but as an entity Betamax has less than none. Nope just need to find another corp that will actually take me. Most of the other corps don't want me since they think i'm gonna AWOX them. I'm thinking of just joining dust uni....
Wow, that's a remarkably effective way of preventing people from leaving.
I'm sure you're not the only one experiencing that. Form a corp with the others? |
Kane Fyea
BetaMax. CRONOS.
180
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Posted - 2013.05.26 04:20:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:Kane Fyea wrote: You do know I don't help betamax at all. In fact, ever since they started doing that I've been wanting to leave this **** corp.
Are they using the corp lock exploit on you? I have respect for certain members, but as an entity Betamax has less than none. Nope just need to find another corp that will actually take me. Most of the other corps don't want me since they think i'm gonna AWOX them. I'm thinking of just joining dust uni.... Wow, that's a remarkably effective way of preventing people from leaving. I'm sure you're not the only one experiencing that. Form a corp with the others? I don't talk to many others in betamax but everyone I know in betamax seem like they don't care about what they're doing. |
Mithridates VI
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
1681
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Posted - 2013.05.26 04:30:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:I don't talk to many others in betamax but everyone I know in betamax seem like they don't care about what they're doing.
Not the experience of my Betamax alts |
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