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Skihids
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
1458
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Posted - 2013.05.23 20:53:00 -
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Those of us with a majority of our SP tied up in vehicles are adapting in the New Eden way so often preached here on the forums.
We are using our sizable investment in Vehicle Upgrades (4.5m in my case) to build super LAVs that can both shoot you and turn you into road kill.
So we see dozens of threads congratulating us on our evolutionary strength!
No, not really. Those are all whining about how we aren't playing the game they way that they want us to play it. They are used to the vulnerability if the free LAVs and either can't or don't want to adapt themselves. It seems that adaptation is meant for the other guy.
Well, in a week or two a lot of us will get our respec and become part of the AR 514 crowd, so you can all calm down. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
4592
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Posted - 2013.05.23 20:55:00 -
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Earlier today our team spawned in a whole squad of swarm launchers and we had a very high vantage point.
It was glorious, 4 dropships, 6 LAVs, 3 HAVs and everything they captured out on the field blown to bits. |
Knarf Black
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
822
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Posted - 2013.05.23 20:59:00 -
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Skihids wrote:Those of us with a majority of our SP tied up in vehicles are adapting in the New Eden way so often preached here on the forums.
We are using our sizable investment in Vehicle Upgrades (4.5m in my case) to build super LAVs that can both shoot you and turn you into road kill.
So we see dozens of threads congratulating us on our evolutionary strength!
No, not really. Those are all whining about how we aren't playing the game they way that they want us to play it. They are used to the vulnerability if the free LAVs and either can't or don't want to adapt themselves. It seems that adaptation is meant for the other guy.
Well, in a week or two a lot of us will get our respec and become part of the AR 514 crowd, so you can all calm down.
You can shoot people from LAVs? |
Byozuma Kegawa
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
55
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Posted - 2013.05.23 21:03:00 -
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Knarf Black wrote:Skihids wrote:Those of us with a majority of our SP tied up in vehicles are adapting in the New Eden way so often preached here on the forums.
We are using our sizable investment in Vehicle Upgrades (4.5m in my case) to build super LAVs that can both shoot you and turn you into road kill.
So we see dozens of threads congratulating us on our evolutionary strength!
No, not really. Those are all whining about how we aren't playing the game they way that they want us to play it. They are used to the vulnerability if the free LAVs and either can't or don't want to adapt themselves. It seems that adaptation is meant for the other guy.
Well, in a week or two a lot of us will get our respec and become part of the AR 514 crowd, so you can all calm down. You can shoot people from LAVs? Yes, it's rare, but possible. It's really interesting when it's a sniper. You get sniped out of the driver's seat, you owe that sniper money. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
1760
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Posted - 2013.05.23 21:08:00 -
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Byozuma Kegawa wrote:Knarf Black wrote:Skihids wrote:Those of us with a majority of our SP tied up in vehicles are adapting in the New Eden way so often preached here on the forums.
We are using our sizable investment in Vehicle Upgrades (4.5m in my case) to build super LAVs that can both shoot you and turn you into road kill.
So we see dozens of threads congratulating us on our evolutionary strength!
No, not really. Those are all whining about how we aren't playing the game they way that they want us to play it. They are used to the vulnerability if the free LAVs and either can't or don't want to adapt themselves. It seems that adaptation is meant for the other guy.
Well, in a week or two a lot of us will get our respec and become part of the AR 514 crowd, so you can all calm down. You can shoot people from LAVs? Yes, it's rare, but possible. It's really interesting when it's a sniper. You get sniped out of the driver's seat, you owe that sniper money. I find it interesting that LAV's protect the driver from orbitals but don't protect you from plasma rounds. |
Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
554
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Posted - 2013.05.23 21:10:00 -
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Its because we've adapted too much, and now Assault players cant wrap their heads around how they're going to combat us.
I say we continue roadkilling until we're nerfed!
THEY MAY NERF OUR WEAPONS, BUT THEY MAY NEVER NERF OUR FREEDOM! |
WyrmHero1945
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
305
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Posted - 2013.05.23 21:12:00 -
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Knight SoIaire wrote:Its because we've adapted too much, and now Assault players cant wrap their heads around how they're going to combat us.
I say we continue roadkilling until we're nerfed!
THEY MAY NERF OUR WEAPONS, BUT THEY MAY NEVER NERF OUR FREEDOM!
Yes Yes Yes
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
384
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Posted - 2013.05.23 21:16:00 -
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I tried dropships for the first time today. I'm bad at flying still, but I feel for those who do it full time. My dropship was sniped off the RDV multiple times whilst I was in the skirmish spawn zone. |
Skihids
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
1459
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Posted - 2013.05.23 21:17:00 -
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Knarf Black wrote:Skihids wrote:Those of us with a majority of our SP tied up in vehicles are adapting in the New Eden way so often preached here on the forums.
We are using our sizable investment in Vehicle Upgrades (4.5m in my case) to build super LAVs that can both shoot you and turn you into road kill.
So we see dozens of threads congratulating us on our evolutionary strength!
No, not really. Those are all whining about how we aren't playing the game they way that they want us to play it. They are used to the vulnerability if the free LAVs and either can't or don't want to adapt themselves. It seems that adaptation is meant for the other guy.
Well, in a week or two a lot of us will get our respec and become part of the AR 514 crowd, so you can all calm down. You can shoot people from LAVs?
Yes, those are turrets on the back. |
Knarf Black
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
823
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Posted - 2013.05.23 21:19:00 -
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Byozuma Kegawa wrote:Knarf Black wrote: You can shoot people from LAVs?
Yes, it's rare, but possible. It's really interesting when it's a sniper. You get sniped out of the driver's seat, you owe that sniper money.
My joke has failed and I must now commit seppuku.
(It's easier to just run people over than to convince someone to sit in the turret, as they might as well have a big glowing target on their noggins.) |
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hooc order
Deep Space Republic Gentlemen's Agreement
127
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Posted - 2013.05.23 21:23:00 -
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LAV can kill a carried-protobear.
Anything that can kill the carried will always be claimed to need a nerf by the carried.
It happened with the AR it happened with the HMG it is happening with the TAC and it is starting to happen with the LAVs.
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The beatings will continue until morale improves |
Skihids
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
1459
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Posted - 2013.05.23 21:26:00 -
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hooc order wrote:LAV can kill a carried-protobear.
Anything that can kill the carried will always be claimed to need a nerf by the carried.
It happened with the AR it happened with the HMG it is happening with the TAC and it is starting to happen with the LAVs.
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The beatings will continue until morale improves
The nerf beatings will continue until we are all using the exact same fitting. |
Skihids
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
1459
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Posted - 2013.05.23 21:27:00 -
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Knarf Black wrote:Byozuma Kegawa wrote:Knarf Black wrote: You can shoot people from LAVs?
Yes, it's rare, but possible. It's really interesting when it's a sniper. You get sniped out of the driver's seat, you owe that sniper money. My joke has failed and I must now commit seppuku. (It's easier to just run people over than to convince someone to sit in the turret, as they might as well have a big glowing target on their noggins.)
As a driver I find a turret gunner to be a huge distraction who blocks my view and gives away my position. |
DigiOps
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
262
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Posted - 2013.05.23 21:45:00 -
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hooc order wrote:The beatings will continue until morale improves That seems counter intuitive. |
Polish Hammer
Conspiratus Immortalis
443
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Posted - 2013.05.23 21:51:00 -
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I for one love blowing up LAVs....they're much more of a challenge because of how quick they are versus HAVs. |
The Infected One
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
208
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Posted - 2013.05.23 22:09:00 -
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Knight SoIaire wrote:Its because we've adapted too much, and now Assault players cant wrap their heads around how they're going to combat us.
I say we continue roadkilling until we're nerfed!
THEY MAY NERF OUR WEAPONS, BUT THEY MAY NEVER NERF OUR FREEDOM!
*CCP nerfs freedom*
Thanks man, that's all we had left. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
384
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Posted - 2013.05.23 22:16:00 -
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The Infected One wrote:Knight SoIaire wrote:Its because we've adapted too much, and now Assault players cant wrap their heads around how they're going to combat us.
I say we continue roadkilling until we're nerfed!
THEY MAY NERF OUR WEAPONS, BUT THEY MAY NEVER NERF OUR FREEDOM! *CCP nerfs freedom* Thanks man, that's all we had left. They already did. *looks at Freedom MD* |
Mike Poole
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
41
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Posted - 2013.05.23 22:19:00 -
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Who is complaining about people that properly invested in their skills to actually outfit a LAV?
The complaints are that any dip**** can toss out free lavs and one hit kill anyone they can find with zero consequence outside needing to spawn one more from the infinite supply. |
Skittles McDuckett
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
54
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Posted - 2013.05.23 22:23:00 -
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Knight SoIaire wrote:Its because we've adapted too much, and now Assault players cant wrap their heads around how they're going to combat us.
I say we continue roadkilling until we're nerfed!
THEY MAY NERF OUR WEAPONS, BUT THEY MAY NEVER NERF OUR FREEDOM!
Can we get Knight Solaire a special dropsuit that has half the face painted blue with a clay-more strapped across its back? |
Adriatic Talon
Gespenster Kompanie Villore Accords
3
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Posted - 2013.05.23 23:58:00 -
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Knight SoIaire wrote:Its because we've adapted too much, and now Assault players cant wrap their heads around how they're going to combat us.
I say we continue roadkilling until we're nerfed!
THEY MAY NERF OUR WEAPONS, BUT THEY MAY NEVER NERF OUR FREEDOM!
I'm an assault user but I have no issue with vehicles. I mean if you are squaded up appropriately, you should not have too many issues. If it's a squad simply of AR users, forget it; might as well have gone in without one at all. |
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noob cavman
Shadow Company HQ
4
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Posted - 2013.05.24 00:11:00 -
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I think what most people have problems with is the free lav having such a buff to it. I admit I get pissed at free lavs just cruising around slamming into anything and everything. But you guys who speced into logi or scout lavs, no problems. Hell I think you guys are awesome at some of the stuff you can do. Free lavs ? Yeah no loss to them. You logi, scout or none militia lavs? Keep doing your thing just watch out for my swarms on the field of war. |
CharCharOdell
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
201
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Posted - 2013.05.24 05:00:00 -
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Knight SoIaire wrote:Its because we've adapted too much, and now Assault players cant wrap their heads around how they're going to combat us.
I say we continue roadkilling until we're nerfed!
THEY MAY NERF OUR WEAPONS, BUT THEY MAY NEVER NERF OUR FREEDOM!
Ya'll said "adapt or die," so we adapted and now you're crying for another nerf bc of our adaption. until then, enjoy my invincible logi lavs which can't be killed by anything short of running into a tank at full speed in a head-on collision. |
MercilessFisting
Helix Pulse Brothers of Tangra
0
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Posted - 2013.05.24 05:08:00 -
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As a guy who's sniped people out of the drivers set in the current build and burned them out with the LR in previous builds, I've got to say, well done LAV peeps. You've adapted well to the constant winging of everyone with their assault rifles that hit at sniper range and AV grenades that kill on command, and run them down while they cry. I say keep it up! As much fun as it is to bait an LAV over my AV grenade when I'm in trouble, I admit that the counter to vehicles is far too strong. And I'll even admit that my favorite thing to do is end a tank with AV grenades. I really don't think it should be so easy, even if it is damn good fun!
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Jenova's Witness
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2013.05.24 05:41:00 -
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gbghg wrote:Byozuma Kegawa wrote:Knarf Black wrote:Skihids wrote:Those of us with a majority of our SP tied up in vehicles are adapting in the New Eden way so often preached here on the forums.
We are using our sizable investment in Vehicle Upgrades (4.5m in my case) to build super LAVs that can both shoot you and turn you into road kill.
So we see dozens of threads congratulating us on our evolutionary strength!
No, not really. Those are all whining about how we aren't playing the game they way that they want us to play it. They are used to the vulnerability if the free LAVs and either can't or don't want to adapt themselves. It seems that adaptation is meant for the other guy.
Well, in a week or two a lot of us will get our respec and become part of the AR 514 crowd, so you can all calm down. You can shoot people from LAVs? Yes, it's rare, but possible. It's really interesting when it's a sniper. You get sniped out of the driver's seat, you owe that sniper money. I find it interesting that LAV's protect the driver from orbitals but don't protect you from plasma rounds. Or forge guns. On several occasions, I've killed the driver before I blew up his vehicle. |
Imp Smash
On The Brink CRONOS.
109
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Posted - 2013.05.24 07:27:00 -
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I'm also cool with people who specced LaV road killing everyone like cake.
I'm not so cool with how hard it is to kill a free LaV though. |
Vicious Minotaur
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2013.05.24 07:39:00 -
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Due to all the murder taxis as of late, I've begun running AV grenades exclusively, and even made two of my own AV fittings (Swarm Launcher & Forge Gun). With rampant LAV abuse, you have to learn quickly, or get run over. Repeatedly. |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
77
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Posted - 2013.05.24 07:46:00 -
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Skihids wrote:Those of us with a majority of our SP tied up in vehicles are adapting in the New Eden way so often preached here on the forums.
We are using our sizable investment in Vehicle Upgrades (4.5m in my case) to build super LAVs that can both shoot you and turn you into road kill.
So we see dozens of threads congratulating us on our evolutionary strength!
No, not really. Those are all whining about how we aren't playing the game they way that they want us to play it. They are used to the vulnerability if the free LAVs and either can't or don't want to adapt themselves. It seems that adaptation is meant for the other guy.
Well, in a week or two a lot of us will get our respec and become part of the AR 514 crowd, so you can all calm down. I'm not going to the dark side. |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
77
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Posted - 2013.05.24 07:46:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Earlier today our team spawned in a whole squad of swarm launchers and we had a very high vantage point.
It was glorious, 4 dropships, 6 LAVs, 3 HAVs and everything they captured out on the field blown to bits. But did you win? |
hooc order
Deep Space Republic Gentlemen's Agreement
132
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Posted - 2013.05.24 08:33:00 -
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So lets see.
LAVs can kill people in a FPS.
LAVs force people to stay out of the open.
LAVs force players to use vehicles to cross large distances.
LAVS force people to class into anti-vehicle abilities
Yeah sure lets nerf em all to hell cuz we want to game to be boring stand in the open gun duels to see who can hop and twitch the best and who has the most armor/shields/dps.
Dust is not CoD!!!! or whatever BS that you need to convince you of your "nerf everything that kills me" fest. |
Shion Typhon
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.05.24 09:21:00 -
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hooc order wrote: Dust is not CoD!!!! or whatever BS that you need to convince you of your "nerf everything that kills me" fest.
I just came here from the Planetside 2 forums where I swear your clone was also posting the same CoD putdown.
You know there is a problem with the LAV when people prefer to not have a gunner. Combined arms balance isn't too bad in Dust but its still behind other games.
Tanks are pretty fine, dangerous but rightly so, they accelerate a tiny bit too fast but the rest is OK. LAVs are silly, their speed is OK but their turning circle is way too tight making them a lawnmower instead of a jeep. The other issue is the general battlefield notice-ability. They need to either make the engine noise far more discernible and/or make them visible at longer ranges on the radar. Usually the first warning you have is the death screen, they aren't stealth units. |
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