Heavies are fine now. I stand a decent chance 1v1 against assaults with my boundless. Dont ask for buffs, we'll get nerfed again. HMGs are fine.

what the hell am I saying?

How to fix heavies:
1. Change base health to 200/600 shield/armor. Amarr are not dual tankers. (refer to point 6)
2. Switch incidental damage at max range the AR has with the HMG. Solid ammo has no business out ranging plasma.
3. Buff HMG DPS to surpass the AR, (its a heavy weapon for crying out loud) but low the optimal range by 5 meters.
4. The HMG should require a heavy to remain stationary while firing. (refer to points 2 & 5 as to why)
5. This is for CCP: Stop scaling HMG DPS according to light weapon DPS! We needed new heavy weapons yesterday to properly balance DPS. Again, the HMG is a heavy weapon and should be treated as such.
6. Throw away that horrible reload speed bonus and replace it with -2% damage received to armor per level.

This way, heavies will be able to out DPS the AR as they should within their optimal range, incidental damage will punish anyone dumb enough to run, and with the range, there's no real need to move. (not like heavies are known for their strafing skills)

yeah, as a habitual player of fatties...

No.

If you want range use an assault rifle until CCP gives us a heavy beam laser or something or a Gallente blaster cannon.

Heavies are not at much of a tactical advantage except when we are in wide open spaces.

By the way I have one complex armor mod and I rock over 1150 HP. making this number larger could be bad.

Oh and the longer range argument is why CCP nerfed the HMG to begin with. it ain't happening,

and conveniently provide a stationary target for everyone to turn into easy chutney.

Bad balance ideas are bad.

Sometimes I just want to stuff all of you into a sack of alley cats and toss you in a creek.

Why? Let me briefly state that I only play as a heavy all the time. i am a professional heavy. I have 200-300 copies of every HMG from the basic to the proto. I maxed out the proficiency so as to maximize damage, etc. I even bought the seismic heavy damage modifier. with that said, here is why i think there should be a buff to HMG range and shield/armor (even as a temporary fix until the ranges on all weapons are fixed) I also, strongly believe the HMG should do slightly more damage to shields (not like a hybrid weapon but about 10% more than it is now).

1. limited mobility
2. its antipersonnel purpose

limited mobility
to elaborate. the heavies limited mobility makes it so that when i gain the upper hand on an enemy who charges me directly, they simply turn around and run away. As a result enemies can literally jump and run circles around me and i am powerless. as a result i am ineffective at mid-range and close-range. this i feel should change. i also find that while i am engaging an enemy at mid-range they can walk backwards faster than i can run and simply cook a grenade and kill me. at other times i have engaged enemies literally across the street, and couldn't do an damage. if the HMG had more range, and did more damage to shields enemies would need to engage me more tactically.

limited mobility is also the reason why i think more armor would be appropriate, proto ARs do so much damage now that they can tear right through a heavy like me even in proto gear. that said more shield or armor (about 25% more than current 400/400) would stop that. :)


its anti-personnel purpose
in short, the only real role of the HMG is to be antiperssonel. that said, i have encountered on a consistent basis enemies with massive amounts a shield that make taking them out just as difficult as taking out another heavy. difference is they are more mobile. if the HMG did more shield damage (10% more shield damage than it currently does) that would remedy the problem.


thank you for hearing me out. I appreciate your concern

Why? Let me briefly state that I only play as a heavy all the time. i am a professional heavy. I have 200-300 copies of every HMG from the basic to the proto. I maxed out the proficiency so as to maximize damage, etc. I even bought the seismic heavy damage modifier. with that said, here is why i think there should be a buff to HMG range and shield/armor (even as a temporary fix until the ranges on all weapons are fixed) I also, strongly believe the HMG should do slightly more damage to shields (not like a hybrid weapon but about 10% more than it is now).

1. limited mobility
2. its antipersonnel purpose

limited mobility
to elaborate. the heavies limited mobility makes it so that when i gain the upper hand on an enemy who charges me directly, they simply turn around and run away. As a result enemies can literally jump and run circles around me and i am powerless. as a result i am ineffective at mid-range and close-range. this i feel should change. i also find that while i am engaging an enemy at mid-range they can walk backwards faster than i can run and simply cook a grenade and kill me. at other times i have engaged enemies literally across the street, and couldn't do an damage. if the HMG had more range, and did more damage to shields enemies would need to engage me more tactically.

limited mobility is also the reason why i think more armor would be appropriate, proto ARs do so much damage now that they can tear right through a heavy like me even in proto gear. that said more shield or armor (about 25% more than current 400/400) would stop that. :)


its anti-personnel purpose
in short, the only real role of the HMG is to be antiperssonel. that said, i have encountered on a consistent basis enemies with massive amounts a shield that make taking them out just as difficult as taking out another heavy. difference is they are more mobile. if the HMG did more shield damage (10% more shield damage than it currently does) that would remedy the problem.


thank you for hearing me out. I appreciate your concern

Why? Let me briefly state that I only play as a heavy all the time. i am a professional heavy. I have 200-300 copies of every HMG from the basic to the proto. I maxed out the proficiency so as to maximize damage, etc. I even bought the seismic heavy damage modifier. with that said, here is why i think there should be a buff to HMG range and shield/armor (even as a temporary fix until the ranges on all weapons are fixed) I also, strongly believe the HMG should do slightly more damage to shields (not like a hybrid weapon but about 10% more than it is now).

1. limited mobility
2. its antipersonnel purpose

limited mobility
to elaborate. the heavies limited mobility makes it so that when i gain the upper hand on an enemy who charges me directly, they simply turn around and run away. As a result enemies can literally jump and run circles around me and i am powerless. as a result i am ineffective at mid-range and close-range. this i feel should change. i also find that while i am engaging an enemy at mid-range they can walk backwards faster than i can run and simply cook a grenade and kill me. at other times i have engaged enemies literally across the street, and couldn't do an damage. if the HMG had more range, and did more damage to shields enemies would need to engage me more tactically.

limited mobility is also the reason why i think more armor would be appropriate, proto ARs do so much damage now that they can tear right through a heavy like me even in proto gear. that said more shield or armor (about 25% more than current 400/400) would stop that. :)


its anti-personnel purpose
in short, the only real role of the HMG is to be antiperssonel. that said, i have encountered on a consistent basis enemies with massive amounts a shield that make taking them out just as difficult as taking out another heavy. difference is they are more mobile. if the HMG did more shield damage (10% more shield damage than it currently does) that would remedy the problem.


thank you for hearing me out. I appreciate your concern

I have seen plenty of heavies doing fine when I as logi follow them around with my core repair tool providing 100hp/s. What I do not understand is the proto or advanced heavies that call down a LAV which I hop into believing it will just be short taxi ride. No no, the heavy drive around trying to run over reddots getting both him and me killed, my logi suit cost arund 100-190k isk and the proto heavy suit and weapon could not have been cheap.

I beg you heavies to stay on foot when you have a logi following you. I seriously consider changing to six kin repair tool for general healing of wounded infantry or instead following gallente assaults as they at least stay on foot and go into cover when under fire.

I used to play a heavy in the old build and I see many rookie mistakes by other heavies now, the most obvious is moving away from the team thinking they are a one man army. I have stopped following heavies on these suicide missions, stay in cover and keep close to your team mates.
There are some heavies that I see go 18-20/1-2 in ambush and skirmish, and common for them are that they stay with their squad. Buffing them would make them insane.

HMG needs a 5-7 point damage buff across the board with a 50% faster heat buildup.

Range is fine, it just has a hard range limit right now.
Accuracy needs to be way lower at spin-up and damn near laser at full auto.
Again, this weapon should have been balanced by the heat buildup, not by gimping the damage.


I don't know why i bother... Forehead, meet brick wall.

Further, your role is wrong. They aren't anti-personnel. They are point-defense units. And they do their job quite well. Start using boundless HMGs, squad up with some people who are good and can communicate well, and do objective based games as Ambush isn't the heavy's strong suit.

Trust me, my KDR has been steadily going up.

Really? A turn speed drop? A super soldier? A logi can circle strafe a Heavy to death. You're all ******** beyond belief.

Jimminy Christmas...

yeah, as a habitual player of fatties...

No.

If you want range use an assault rifle until CCP gives us a heavy beam laser or something or a Gallente blaster cannon.

Heavies are not at much of a tactical advantage except when we are in wide open spaces.

By the way I have one complex armor mod and I rock over 1150 HP. making this number larger could be bad.

Oh and the longer range argument is why CCP nerfed the HMG to begin with. it ain't happening,