There is alot of scrub talk about the CPMs and comming from the CPMs alike. Can we get a dev or CPM themselfs to get us a clear answer? They are representing us and some of us need a definition to go on. This can also be linked in the future

Some of them do their job and get feedback from the community while others use it to push their own agenda and playstyle.

We're essentially you guys just CCP picks on us first about feedback so it has to be our job that our feedback is best resonating with most of you guys overall not just AR players or Awoxers or Tank players or pubstompers but all of Dust 514.

Not an easy job at times... Some of us had lost just about every minute of game time they normally had throughout the week performing CPM functions.

We're essentially you guys just, CCP picks on us first about feedback so it has to be our job that our feedback is best resonating with most of you guys overall not just AR players or Awoxers or Tank players or pubstompers but all of Dust 514.

Not an easy job at times... Some of us had lost just about every minute of game time they normally had throughout the week performing CPM functions.

Can you give an example of how the CPM position has allowed them to further their own agenda in the game? What are they doing in the game that they couldn't have without the CPM title?

Helps if you have actual understanding of the game itself before you offer feedback.
How many FW contracts have you played in prior to Uprising. How many PC matches? Where do you get feedback from? How are you able to troubleshoot and offer up opinions if you don't play the game itself?

See problem isn't the CPM its how the CPM goes about getting their feedback and how many just isolate themselves in an echochamber.


Cant help improve the game if you don't understand the fundamentals of the game and how all the pieces should interconnect.

Helps if you have actual understanding of the game itself before you offer feedback.
How many FW contracts have you played in prior to Uprising. How many PC matches? Where do you get feedback from? How are you able to troubleshoot and offer up opinions if you don't play the game itself?

See problem isn't the CPM its how the CPM goes about getting their feedback and how many just isolate themselves in an echochamber.


Cant help improve the game if you don't understand the fundamentals of the game and how all the pieces should interconnect.

Caz, Hanz, Jenza = Cronos / Orion

I think people can come to their own conclusions about that. Donut in the game, donut in the CPM

So you haven't actually pointed out anything that they're doing or trying to do that they need CPM power to do. Being a member of some alliances while being in CPM is not itself an abuse.

What are you talkin bout? lol

My post post has nothing to do with what you're talking about. I merely pointed out the donut in game, and on the CPM

Then you haven't really answered my question.

Can you give an example of how the CPM position has allowed them to further their own agenda in the game? What are they doing in the game that they couldn't have without the CPM title?

"Earlier this month the developers for DUST 514 and I sat down with the goal of creating a player advocacy group like the CSM in DUST 514. We came to the conclusion that the best group of people to help design the future of this player run organization was the players themselves."

(Snip)

"With this early CSM in mind, I put out the call to some of the most respected members of the DUST 514 community to interview with me so that I could pick 5 of the best representatives to form what we, at that time, called the GÇ£War CouncilGÇ¥, the partner body to the Council of Stellar Management"

Ironwolf is generally bad at PR and should probably stop trying

Basically...

The original purpose (As explained to us, and you : Here



This was fairly self explanatory to us, and we went to fanfest reasonably confident and ready to talk about that stuff. At fanfest, CCP let us playtest Uprising for a bit... And our initial reaction was "Man, people are going to love this, there's very little to nitpick about except for the usual balance issues" And then Uprising launched, and it launched burning with issues and bugs that did not exist at fanfest.

The need for clear action essentially meant our original mandate took a back seat. CCP needed to do damage control, and they needed to know where to do it. Meetings were had, documents and lists were formed, and CCP made a plan for staged hotfixes, presented it to the CPM, and we were mostly satisfied with how CCP was going to turn Uprising around.

If you want to know what the CPM is doing now, this is the best summary:

While format and the formation of a new council temporarily took a back seat because of the emergencies surrounding Uprising, We've been planning to spend time on that very issue very soon. The general mandate of the CPM was never that cut and dry ; CPM1 and beyond is not the only reason we are here. Simply 'giving feedback' is not our job. Passing along the suggestions with the most +1's is not what we do. That is what the forums are for, and the CCP Community team watches those for a reason.

When serious issues arise, it does fall on us to make sure CCP is not only aware of those issues, but have all possible context (And then direct them to appropriate threads if they have not seen them already) In cases like that, we consolidate feedback into documents to bring to meetings.

CCP may occasionally share with us future plans (We're pushing to get them to bring them to the entire playerbase, this 'hush hush' secret crap is doing more harm than good) and this gives us the opportunity to stop them from making huge mistakes before huge rage threadnaughts happen.. This is again, not our primary purpose.


TL:DR

We are here to decide how CPM1 and beyond will be selected and how their communication methods with CCP will proceed. We are also here to make sure CCP knows what they need to in times of dire need. Lastly, we are here to call CCP on their ****.

Apparently you seem to think their purpose is to play forum ping-pong/foreplay with you?

Apparently you seem to think their purpose is to play forum ping-pong/foreplay with you?

Heres my problem

The CPM0 was designed mainly to help pave the way to CPM1. However, I have yet to see one article or even the personal thoughts of any CPM members on the subject. When I asked FF, I was basically answered with "ahhh... we don't have a answer for you"

Any CPM care share there thoughts.

"We think regnum should just solo it and be the "Dictator of planetary management"

It's hard to find a good way to present

"We think regnum should just solo it and be the "Dictator of planetary management"


Seriously. PR is hard :(

Edit: In seriousness, a document on this is being drafted so everyone can easily see where we stand on stuff like this.

We ask for your patience, and promise not to SOONTM you.