Nova Knife
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Posted - 2013.05.21 08:26:00 -
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Ironwolf is generally bad at PR and should probably stop trying 
Basically...
The original purpose (As explained to us, and you : Here
Nova makes nice quotes because people are lazy and don't read, but really he's quoting CCP Dolan wrote:
"Earlier this month the developers for DUST 514 and I sat down with the goal of creating a player advocacy group like the CSM in DUST 514. We came to the conclusion that the best group of people to help design the future of this player run organization was the players themselves."
(Snip)
"With this early CSM in mind, I put out the call to some of the most respected members of the DUST 514 community to interview with me so that I could pick 5 of the best representatives to form what we, at that time, called the GÇ£War CouncilGÇ¥, the partner body to the Council of Stellar Management"
This was fairly self explanatory to us, and we went to fanfest reasonably confident and ready to talk about that stuff. At fanfest, CCP let us playtest Uprising for a bit... And our initial reaction was "Man, people are going to love this, there's very little to nitpick about except for the usual balance issues" And then Uprising launched, and it launched burning with issues and bugs that did not exist at fanfest.
The need for clear action essentially meant our original mandate took a back seat. CCP needed to do damage control, and they needed to know where to do it. Meetings were had, documents and lists were formed, and CCP made a plan for staged hotfixes, presented it to the CPM, and we were mostly satisfied with how CCP was going to turn Uprising around.
If you want to know what the CPM is doing now, this is the best summary:
While format and the formation of a new council temporarily took a back seat because of the emergencies surrounding Uprising, We've been planning to spend time on that very issue very soon. The general mandate of the CPM was never that cut and dry ; CPM1 and beyond is not the only reason we are here. Simply 'giving feedback' is not our job. Passing along the suggestions with the most +1's is not what we do. That is what the forums are for, and the CCP Community team watches those for a reason.
When serious issues arise, it does fall on us to make sure CCP is not only aware of those issues, but have all possible context (And then direct them to appropriate threads if they have not seen them already) In cases like that, we consolidate feedback into documents to bring to meetings.
CCP may occasionally share with us future plans (We're pushing to get them to bring them to the entire playerbase, this 'hush hush secret crap is doing more harm than good) and this gives us the opportunity to stop them from making huge mistakes before huge rage threadnaughts happen.. This is again, not our primary purpose.
TL:DR
We are here to decide how CPM1 and beyond will be selected and how their communication methods with CCP will proceed. We are also here to make sure CCP knows what they need to in times of dire need. Lastly, we are here to call CCP on their ****.
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Nova Knife
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.21 10:28:00 -
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Happy Violentime wrote:Apparently you seem to think their purpose is to play forum ping-pong/foreplay with you?
Hey, I'm more than happy to chat idly when I'm available :)
As far as your second query, Exmaple :
I think everyone likes to think they're doing a good job no matter what they do.
That being said... CCP has been a lot more receptive than I gave them credit for, to be completely honest. They are taking the issues with the game seriously, and the CPM are all active and contributing to pretty much everything we're working on. The whole thing is progressing much better and smoother than I would've thought.
Most of the credit there goes to Heinrich Jagerblitzen, TBH. His experience in the format of this stuff let us easily learn the DO's and DON'TS of 'Council organization', letting us thrive where the eve CSM has struggled. We hit the ground running with uprising, and I've got nothing but good things to say about the immediate future, both for Dust and the CPM. (And the community as a whole! For the most part, the forums have begun to fill with goodposts in response to more and more CCP Devposts lately!) |
Nova Knife
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.21 10:42:00 -
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ReGnUM Public Relations wrote:Heres my problem
The CPM0 was designed mainly to help pave the way to CPM1. However, I have yet to see one article or even the personal thoughts of any CPM members on the subject. When I asked FF, I was basically answered with "ahhh... we don't have a answer for you"
Any CPM care share there thoughts.
It's hard to find a good way to present
"We think regnum should just solo it and be the "Dictator of planetary management"
Seriously. PR is hard :(
Edit: In seriousness, a document on this is being drafted so everyone can easily see where we stand on stuff like this.
We ask for your patience, and promise not to SOONTM you. |