Seems as all the old good tankers are quitting... only a few seem to remain. I miss those tank clashing beta days... it's just me and my old tank Bessie. -áLooks like I'll -ábe one of the last beta tankers... it's been nice knowing -áyou tankers who left. Be successful on your future endeavors. Of course that means tankers will be higher n higher in demand (I feelz so special). I'm a man on a mission...

Seems as all the old good tankers are quitting... only a few seem to remain. I miss those tank clashing beta days... it's just me and my old tank Bessie. -áLooks like I'll -ábe one of the last beta tankers... it's been nice knowing -áyou tankers who left. Be successful on your future endeavors. Of course that means tankers will be higher n higher in demand (I feelz so special). I'm a man on a mission...

until ccp decides that they want tanks bad enough to put up with CoD Bois QQing that they can't AR a madrugar to death you won't see my tank out and about.

im waiting till either fighters get implemented or they bring tanks back to their former glory

Seems as all the old good tankers are quitting... only a few seem to remain. I miss those tank clashing beta days... it's just me and my old tank Bessie. -áLooks like I'll -ábe one of the last beta tankers... it's been nice knowing -áyou tankers who left. Be successful on your future endeavors. Of course that means tankers will be higher n higher in demand (I feelz so special). I'm a man on a mission...

Seems as all the old good tankers are quitting... only a few seem to remain. I miss those tank clashing beta days... it's just me and my old tank Bessie. -áLooks like I'll -ábe one of the last beta tankers... it's been nice knowing -áyou tankers who left. Be successful on your future endeavors. Of course that means tankers will be higher n higher in demand (I feelz so special). I'm a man on a mission...

Tanks were being used as the endgame for selfish solo players who wanted to be the 'complete package' without bothering with all of that annoying teamwork stuff (because why work with others who are clearly not as good as you! (they shouted from inside their tanks!))

Now they're where they should be. A single part of an effective force, that can't just be deployed in every situation regardless of context. A lot of people didn't take well to that, but luckily after two solid weeks of allcaps bitching they decided to give something else a try and might even be having a pretty good time instead of shooting blood out their eye every time they get gangbanged by swarms.

Don't worry Brochacho, I'll be back to Tanking on Wednesday (Probable Respec Day). Just had to show the CoDboitards that this Tanker has Gun Game before I hop back into my Tiger Special (Dominion Tank Police FTW) so they can hushmouth from here on out when even an inkling of a thought pops into their heads wanting to say "GET OUT OF YOUR OP TANK & FIGHT ME LIKE A MAN YOU NO GUN GAME SCRUB!!!!" Gotta put some Peanut Butter in dem Chihuahua Mouths :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGTZLuuTPi8

Tanks were being used as the endgame for selfish solo players who wanted to be the 'complete package' without bothering with all of that annoying teamwork stuff (because why work with others who are clearly not as good as you! (they shouted from inside their tanks!))

Now they're where they should be. A single part of an effective force, that can't just be deployed in every situation regardless of context. A lot of people didn't take well to that, but luckily after two solid weeks of allcaps bitching they decided to give something else a try and might even be having a pretty good time instead of shooting blood out their eye every time they get gangbanged by swarms.

now that's COD bias from someone who has never driven a tank before

so having what is in some cases is literally all you have skilled into at this point rendered useless by exactly one person on the enemy team is balanced(one heavy with a forge gun in ANY decent position=no vehicles for the enemy team anywhere, anytime, and with a nanohive, FOR THE DURATION OF THE MATCH.)

Forge guy is exactly one person, tank driver is exactly one person. You've both shot your full skill load into your chosen field.

The tank, left to its own devices, will shred up the battlefield with impunity. The forge gunner, at best, can perform a few skilful instagibs and is done if anyone competent gets near him while he's without backup, just as you're done if your team isn't working with you to keep the field clear of guys like that. The ISK cost reflects the difference in overall kill capability, the difference between their 4/6 k/d and your 30/2.

You skilled into tank to own the match. They skilled into heavy/forge to kill you. Everyone has to fear something, because that's the definition of balance.

member of the original guard here, not switching from tanks. cheers

edit: dont be mistaken.... in regular pub matches i have too much fun on alts trying out new weps, but in the end, PC matches are where **** gets real. If you play them, you wouldnt be saying your the only one left.

I remember a CoD with a tank. It was a WW2 one and it was rather fun but we didn't have repair tools so once it blew up that was it and it only took one or two shots.

Went 43 and 2 in one those things.

NOTE: I don't even have a full million on my tanking character. this is from my time in militia tanks, where my deaths have ALL been forge guns. not other tanks, not installations, not even swarm launchers(have been hit by one) have not even seen a plasma launcher on the field yet. all such deaths have been within 3 shots doesn't matter that I have ~20% passive resist. they specced into a thing that will kill me, without fail within seconds.

Tanks were being used as the endgame for selfish solo players who wanted to be the 'complete package' without bothering with all of that annoying teamwork stuff (because why work with others who are clearly not as good as you! (they shouted from inside their tanks!))

Now they're where they should be. A single part of an effective force, that can't just be deployed in every situation regardless of context. A lot of people didn't take well to that, but luckily after two solid weeks of allcaps bitching they decided to give something else a try and might even be having a pretty good time instead of shooting blood out their eye every time they get gangbanged by swarms.

I remember a CoD with a tank. It was a WW2 one and it was rather fun but we didn't have repair tools so once it blew up that was it and it only took one or two shots.

Went 43 and 2 in one those things.

few tanks take more than 2 or 3 shots of my rg tank.. eager to play against good tankers again

The only tanks i see lately are those that

A) I get to Solo and send me Fanmail
B) Are at the other side of the map, too afraid to head into the fray unless theres at least 3 of them

By being supported they think, its Extra stacks of tanks instead of support infantry.

Or most of them either ran out of ISK or couldnt take getting killed, it ruins there 20+ KDR you know!

Let me put this another way, say you're a sniper, and you are only spawned on 100x100m maps...well, every 20 matches u might get lucky and get a good sized one, but most of the time, you are stuck in CQB and can't change your fitting. Also take into account that your fitting costs 1.6 mil. Does it make sense yet? You don't see good tanks anymore bc theyre too expensive to use now. If they stay the way they are, they need a huge cost reduction OR they can be buffed so that it's actually possible to survive a whole battle against good AV without red-line sniping.

If you think you're hard for killing tanks in Uprising, think again. It wasn't particularly hard in Chromosome if you had good tactics, and even then there were only a select 25 tankers who would be hard to kill. Now, killing a tank is about the same as killing a heavy. Don't say "tanks have thousands of HP", because EVERYBODY has adv av grenades and they do THOUSANDS of damage. A squad of six with them equipped is capeable of doing 27,000 dmg in 3 seconds to a tank. That is impossible to defend against, without not getting up close in the first place- hence the rail snipers.

Oh, and the highest KDRs belong to assault players, NOT tankers. Do your homework

I always think its funny when Tankers pull the (Hard)core card out...



Oh ive actually played cqc sniper in APB-R for most part of my time there (2 years+-), its like playing with a shotgun, except you can't miss a single time because of the 1.5 second bolt action time between shots, witch i don't.

But to get back to your Tank fit, its not because it costs allot of money that it needs to be powerfull & easely replaced, its your choice to get into that tank, you know what it can and cannot do. Some people fly 16 Billion ISK Navy Fitted battleships into high sec, some random guy with a 83m ISK gank fit blows them up for TEARS. They could have flown a 200m isk ****-fit and do the same as the 16 Billion fit and the Tear-man would not have struck them.




If all 6 guys get passed your squad and your tank with 3 people inside without anyone noticing....well what can i say...

Either you guys got rolled hard and you diserve to die or you were all blind as bats and diserve to die?

I really never understood the Tank mentality in Dust where you guys seem to want to one shot everything in sight, even across the map, and this all is balanced to ISK & SP spend by the fact 6 guys with AV nades can do 27.000 theoretic damage if they lob 3 grenades each after they reach your tank?




Please name a single guy that has never used a vehicle while playing solo as an Assault Player.
Ill even allow you to name one that quits matches if its not stacked into his favor.

I've had a far less expensive time preserving KDR-ISK Efficiency in my Wasp Suit (Formerly Bumblebee) than I would have in a Tank. Only reason I'm going back to Tank is b/c nobody else will bother skilling into any Vehicle past lolLAVs or just Modules (BPO Saga FTW.....), & PC is here, so ya..... I should not be limited to a single Game-Type just b/c I decided to Spec out of AR 514. And even there the ISK Efficiency is just about lost the moment you get popped.

How about Dropsuits are not allowed in FW or PC, no BPO anything, & you Spawn-In as your chosen Vehicle? Your "Logic" is flawed & you have no place in telling someone their Investments can go suck a d**k. It's the "Brilliant" minds of unprepared Scrublets who advocate CoD 514 that will force CCP to simply Delete the Vehicle Trees & Heavy/Scout can go. All assets turn to DUST & are reborn as some form of Rifle alongside some form of Grenade. Medium or Bust 4 DUST.

Everything except Vehicles took a Price Drop & the FREE Hacked Exo AV was a "slap in the face" telltale sign of things to come should CCP maintain the CoDboi Phallis in their Oral Cavity and/or Kinostetic Crevasses....... Dropsuits get to SKIP SP investments soon while HAV still needs LAV, & Enforcer still needs both LAV & HAV simply to field a Naked Shell..... Nonetheless I will ride my Viva Pi+¦atamobile 'till the wheels fall off, but 1st.....I must shed this CoDboi Disguise & take a shower before my Tiger Special allows me back in the sack :P

Is that seriously the approach you are bringing to the devs as far as balancing weapons and vehicles?

I once won something like 7 fights in a row in the Burg with a 0 poise dex character in Dark Souls before they nerfed the dark wood grain ring and everywhere you turned there were ninja flipping mask of the mother Havel giant armor wearing try hards. Not because the build I had or the weapons I was using were all that good. They weren't. Well, I had a good sword, but that character was more of an lol build than anything. No, I won because I was lucky enough to run into a string of players that weren't that great.

Changing a weapon so that it will do well if you are lucky enough to run into players that are not equipped, skilled, or experienced enough to counter it does not make a weapon or vehicle balanced or viable or interesting to use.

It seems more and more like CCP have some particular vision of how they want us to play the game. Like they have some very narrow vision of how and when a tank should be used and every time we the players do something different the tank gets changed to limit its versatility, or, I supposed make it so it can play the role CCP have chosen for tanks.

It does not seem like changes are being made to allow for players to chose how they want to play.

Seems as all the old good tankers are quitting... only a few seem to remain. I miss those tank clashing beta days... it's just me and my old tank Bessie. -áLooks like I'll -ábe one of the last beta tankers... it's been nice knowing -áyou tankers who left. Be successful on your future endeavors. Of course that means tankers will be higher n higher in demand (I feelz so special). I'm a man on a mission...

few tanks take more than 2 or 3 shots of my rg tank.. eager to play against good tankers again