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Text Grant
Illuminati..
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Posted - 2013.05.20 20:11:00 -
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I just waited behind a Madrugar until its shield hardeners went away then hit it with 5 Lai Dai Packed AV Grenades before he got his blaster cannon on me and stopped me. Yes i had removed all his shields but this is a game killer. Anti vehicle grenades need to do their job. Lvl 1 tank or militia tank should blow without even needing a nanohive if i am running prototype AV. Request 1: speed. this build has made it much harder to maneuver. Request 2: nanohive fix. The new nanohives are barely worth carrying. i find myself running across the battlefield for ammo even though i carry nanohives. Request 3: remove buff to vehicles or add buff to AV to keep it balanced. At the current state you need 2 proto AV's to take out 1 militia tank. |
Skihids
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
1438
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Posted - 2013.05.20 20:19:00 -
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Yeah, dem dropships are totally OP! Nerf! Nerf! Nerf! |
Mary Sedillo
XERCORE E X T E R M I N A T U S
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Posted - 2013.05.20 20:20:00 -
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The guy built his tank well and it did the job: kept him alive well enough to fight you off. Why penalize a player who has spent a MASSIVE amount of SP just to make his tank effective against your AV's? Don't try to solo a tank, and don't be sad when you can't. Teamwork, its the thing. |
Text Grant
Illuminati..
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Posted - 2013.05.20 20:21:00 -
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Not dropships. They didn't receive a buff to remove. And AV grenades shouldn't scare you. |
Mary Sedillo
XERCORE E X T E R M I N A T U S
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Posted - 2013.05.20 20:23:00 -
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Your claim that you 'need' proto av to take out a Militia Tank is just silly. They go down easily to militia/standard grade AV. Its as if you aren't really playing the game and just want your toy to be buffed to silly levels.
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
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Posted - 2013.05.20 20:25:00 -
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AV is still currently OP
I dont even have AV stuff and Iv killed countless tanks but grabbing the militia swarms, driving a free LAV into a tank and then shooting it once.
Please use better tactics. |
Text Grant
Illuminati..
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Posted - 2013.05.20 20:28:00 -
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Nice. 3 tank drivers run up to defend their rolling god cannons. We should all just bow and let the tank gods rename to Tank 514. |
Taurion Bruni
Nightingale Logistics Pty Ltd
22
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Posted - 2013.05.20 20:30:00 -
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it seems to me that you only hate the tanks, while they are absolutely brutal at times, that's because they put more time and money into it. it should not take only 10,000 isk suit to take out someones 2mill tank. that's the way it works |
Mary Sedillo
XERCORE E X T E R M I N A T U S
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Posted - 2013.05.20 20:33:00 -
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I fly a pretty well tanked Dropship that will NOT go down to a single rocket launcher of any grade unless they are lucky or working as a team. Forge guns hurt the mess out of me, but even then I can move rather quickly because of how I built it. Should I be nerfed for building an efficient dropship? Said dropship costs me out of pocket about 1.5 million isk. Should free AV be able to god-mode on all vehicles, or should teams have to WORK TOGETHER to take me out? That seems better. One person with AV should not be able to rock every vehicle out there. My 2 cents. |
Nguruthos IV
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2013.05.20 20:33:00 -
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Dropships get lumped into the "Vehicles" conversation when people toss around the word OP, or when CCP does blanket nerfs.
But when vehicles get buffed, CCP goes "Hmm, lets count all our vehicles. See, we have LAVs, HAVs, ... Think that's about it!" |
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Text Grant
Illuminati..
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Posted - 2013.05.20 20:33:00 -
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The problem is i build my suit to kill tanks, and LAV's. If it doesnt work then the AV grenades should just be removed from the game. I am built to kill them and put a majority of my sp into doing so. Im not hitting them with an AR. |
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
22
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Posted - 2013.05.20 20:34:00 -
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Text Grant wrote:Nice. 3 tank drivers run up to defend their rolling god cannons. We should all just bow and let the tank gods rename to Tank 514.
While I was a tank drive in chromo I am not anymore. I was also AV in chromo. AV is so overpowered its unfunny. There was one tank that I had a problem with in chromo and that was a redline sniping sagarius. Still took it out, just needed to recruit my other AV bro and a friend with miltia swarms.
Maybe spec into real AV instead of nades. Like I dont know? forgeguns or swarms? Since they hit like a truck and from a decent range.
quit QQing (god cant believe im using that phrase) AV is OP. |
Wojciak
Soldiers Of One Network Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.20 20:36:00 -
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You kids should stop bickering.
I can solo tanks only when the tanks mess up or do not care enough to kill me. His clam that Proto Av should wipe the floor with Milt tanks is true, if that tank is mostly milt or stander gear. AV should always be a little op to Vehicles, Vehicles should be Op to infantry, and infantry should be op to AV. (rock, paper, scissors) |
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
22
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Posted - 2013.05.20 20:38:00 -
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Text Grant wrote:The problem is i build my suit to kill tanks, and LAV's. If it doesnt work then the AV grenades should just be removed from the game. I am built to kill them and put a majority of my sp into doing so. Im not hitting them with an AR.
Please, PLEASE tell me your suit loadout so I can laugh at you.
Is it adv (cause thats all you need) forgegun with AV nades? If so , then you're just bad or is it an ADV swarms with AV nades and proximity mines? thats all you need.
Maybe you're using the wrong type of AV vs the tank? If so switch tactics? |
Mary Sedillo
XERCORE E X T E R M I N A T U S
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Posted - 2013.05.20 20:39:00 -
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Wojciak wrote:You kids should stop bickering.
I can solo tanks only when the tanks mess up or do not care enough to kill me. His clam that Proto Av should wipe the floor with Milt tanks is true, if that tank is mostly milt or stander gear. AV should always be a little op to Vehicles, Vehicles should be Op to infantry, and infantry should be op to AV. (rock, paper, scissors)
Interesting idea in theory, but still, free AV gear should NOT be able to push well-fit things away, and low grade AV should not be buffed to make it so. |
Starne
Planetary Response Organization
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Posted - 2013.05.20 20:42:00 -
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hey dude. u know that ur talking about a tank right? you know some thing that is over 10 times the size of a heavey, cost *** tons of isk and skill points to make work and you want to kill it with a frag the size of your hand in 2 hits am i right? that **** dont even work in real life. now if you where to say that they should destory a tanks treds to keep it from running away i would say maybe. but to fully kill a tank with some thing that A is homing B dose more damage then a forge or most swarms and C can be throw so fast that u need a nano after 3 secs to get more is ******* dumb. |
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
22
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Posted - 2013.05.20 20:49:00 -
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Starne wrote:hey dude. u know that ur talking about a tank right? you know some thing that is over 10 times the size of a heavey, cost *** tons of isk and skill points to make work and you want to kill it with a frag the size of your hand in 2 hits am i right? that **** dont even work in real life. now if you where to say that they should destory a tanks treds to keep it from running away i would say maybe. but to fully kill a tank with some thing that A is homing B dose more damage then a forge or most swarms and C can be throw so fast that u need a nano after 3 secs to get more is ******* dumb.
Starne, when insulting someone, try to spell correctly. It makes you look like a little child if you dont put effort into it. The biggest point here is the use of "u' instead of 'you'. Such a simple thing can go a long way.
Now, I'll be the first to admit I am not the best at spelling, but at least I try and put effort into it when insulting someone. |
Mary Sedillo
XERCORE E X T E R M I N A T U S
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Posted - 2013.05.20 20:50:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:Starne wrote:hey dude. u know that ur talking about a tank right? you know some thing that is over 10 times the size of a heavey, cost *** tons of isk and skill points to make work and you want to kill it with a frag the size of your hand in 2 hits am i right? that **** dont even work in real life. now if you where to say that they should destory a tanks treds to keep it from running away i would say maybe. but to fully kill a tank with some thing that A is homing B dose more damage then a forge or most swarms and C can be throw so fast that u need a nano after 3 secs to get more is ******* dumb. Starne, when insulting someone, try to spell correctly. It makes you look like a little child if you dont put effort into it. The biggest point here is the use of "u' instead of 'you'. Such a simple thing can go a long way. Now, I'll be the first to admit I am not the best at spelling, but at least I try and put effort into it when insulting someone.
While his spelling is atrocious, his point is valid. Small SP/ISK cost item shouldn't be able to faceroll a tank solo. |
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
22
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Posted - 2013.05.20 20:52:00 -
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Mary Sedillo wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:Starne wrote:hey dude. u know that ur talking about a tank right? you know some thing that is over 10 times the size of a heavey, cost *** tons of isk and skill points to make work and you want to kill it with a frag the size of your hand in 2 hits am i right? that **** dont even work in real life. now if you where to say that they should destory a tanks treds to keep it from running away i would say maybe. but to fully kill a tank with some thing that A is homing B dose more damage then a forge or most swarms and C can be throw so fast that u need a nano after 3 secs to get more is ******* dumb. Starne, when insulting someone, try to spell correctly. It makes you look like a little child if you dont put effort into it. The biggest point here is the use of "u' instead of 'you'. Such a simple thing can go a long way. Now, I'll be the first to admit I am not the best at spelling, but at least I try and put effort into it when insulting someone. While his spelling is atrocious, his point is valid. Small SP/ISK cost item shouldn't be able to faceroll a tank solo.
I dont disagree, look at my posts in this thread. I just think he should use proper spelling if he wants to insult someone. But... I really dont expect better from someone who uses reddit. |
Mary Sedillo
XERCORE E X T E R M I N A T U S
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Posted - 2013.05.20 20:53:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:Mary Sedillo wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:Starne wrote:hey dude. u know that ur talking about a tank right? you know some thing that is over 10 times the size of a heavey, cost *** tons of isk and skill points to make work and you want to kill it with a frag the size of your hand in 2 hits am i right? that **** dont even work in real life. now if you where to say that they should destory a tanks treds to keep it from running away i would say maybe. but to fully kill a tank with some thing that A is homing B dose more damage then a forge or most swarms and C can be throw so fast that u need a nano after 3 secs to get more is ******* dumb. Starne, when insulting someone, try to spell correctly. It makes you look like a little child if you dont put effort into it. The biggest point here is the use of "u' instead of 'you'. Such a simple thing can go a long way. Now, I'll be the first to admit I am not the best at spelling, but at least I try and put effort into it when insulting someone. While his spelling is atrocious, his point is valid. Small SP/ISK cost item shouldn't be able to faceroll a tank solo. I dont disagree, look at my posts in this thread. I just think he should use proper spelling if he wants to insult someone. But... I really dont expect better from someone who uses reddit.
Being condescending won't help your point get across any better. Just saying. |
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Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1047
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Posted - 2013.05.20 20:54:00 -
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AV grenades are not a proper AV weapon. Spec into a light AV weapon or forge gun and HTFU. AV 'nades make you versatile but shouldn't replace an actual weapon. If you're complaining about why chucking them at a tank solo didn't kill it, it's a tank, you're not supposed to solo it. |
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
22
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Posted - 2013.05.20 20:58:00 -
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Mary Sedillo wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:Mary Sedillo wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:Starne wrote:hey dude. u know that ur talking about a tank right? you know some thing that is over 10 times the size of a heavey, cost *** tons of isk and skill points to make work and you want to kill it with a frag the size of your hand in 2 hits am i right? that **** dont even work in real life. now if you where to say that they should destory a tanks treds to keep it from running away i would say maybe. but to fully kill a tank with some thing that A is homing B dose more damage then a forge or most swarms and C can be throw so fast that u need a nano after 3 secs to get more is ******* dumb. Starne, when insulting someone, try to spell correctly. It makes you look like a little child if you dont put effort into it. The biggest point here is the use of "u' instead of 'you'. Such a simple thing can go a long way. Now, I'll be the first to admit I am not the best at spelling, but at least I try and put effort into it when insulting someone. While his spelling is atrocious, his point is valid. Small SP/ISK cost item shouldn't be able to faceroll a tank solo. I dont disagree, look at my posts in this thread. I just think he should use proper spelling if he wants to insult someone. But... I really dont expect better from someone who uses reddit. Being condescending won't help your point get across any better. Just saying.
Insults garner peoples attentions better then kindness. At least they do on the internet, so I humbly disagree. |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
862
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Posted - 2013.05.20 21:01:00 -
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op is nonsensical. av is op right now and if you cant kill an armor tank with lai dais than you should stop going av and maybe try out sniping or something.
realize that nanohives were borken before, there was no need to spec into nanohives because militia gave you ammo for days. now you actually need to use a worthwhile hive. also, nade spamming was an issue, now its not.
you sound like those guys who complain because they cant solo tanks without dropping their ar.....oh wait.... |
Text Grant
Illuminati..
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Posted - 2013.05.20 21:01:00 -
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The way everyone keeps saying that teamwork is required to take out militia tanks will only end in 32 tanks rolling across the field. ANTI VEHICLE weapons should do what they say. |
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
22
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Posted - 2013.05.20 21:03:00 -
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Text Grant wrote:The way everyone keeps saying that teamwork is required to take out militia tanks will only end in 32 tanks rolling across the field. ANTI VEHICLE weapons should do what they say.
ANTI VEHICLE (see I can into capslock) DO WHAT THEY SAY
Stop being a scrub, want some help? Want to improve your fittings or tactics? Im sure MANY MANY people will be more than happy to help you. Heck, i'll help you if you want it. Stop trying to nerf crap thats currently underpowered or buff stuff that is currently overpowered. |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
862
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Posted - 2013.05.20 21:04:00 -
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Text Grant wrote:The way everyone keeps saying that teamwork is required to take out militia tanks will only end in 32 tanks rolling across the field. ANTI VEHICLE weapons should do what they say.
if you want to solo a tank, get a forge/swarm/plasma cannon. av nades should be a supplement to real av guys.
this is irrelevant tho because av nades trash tanks anyway. back to my original point, if you cant kill a militia tank with lai dais you forfeit your right to have any opinion on AV/Tank balance. |
Text Grant
Illuminati..
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Posted - 2013.05.20 21:05:00 -
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Maybe it already is tank 514 |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
862
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Posted - 2013.05.20 21:06:00 -
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at this point thread is simply troll thread, no longer care |
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
22
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Posted - 2013.05.20 21:07:00 -
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Text Grant wrote:Maybe it already is AR514
fixed that for ya |
Text Grant
Illuminati..
7
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Posted - 2013.05.20 21:09:00 -
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if it was AR 514 then at the end of the match tank drivers wouldnt be 30/0 |
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