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Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 21	Posted - 2013.05.20 20:25:00 - [1] - Quote AV is still currently OP I dont even have AV stuff and Iv killed countless tanks but grabbing the militia swarms, driving a free LAV into a tank and then shooting it once. Please use better tactics.
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 22	Posted - 2013.05.20 20:34:00 - [2] - Quote Text Grant wrote: Nice. 3 tank drivers run up to defend their rolling god cannons. We should all just bow and let the tank gods rename to Tank 514. While I was a tank drive in chromo I am not anymore. I was also AV in chromo. AV is so overpowered its unfunny. There was one tank that I had a problem with in chromo and that was a redline sniping sagarius. Still took it out, just needed to recruit my other AV bro and a friend with miltia swarms. Maybe spec into real AV instead of nades. Like I dont know? forgeguns or swarms? Since they hit like a truck and from a decent range. quit QQing (god cant believe im using that phrase) AV is OP.
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 22	Posted - 2013.05.20 20:38:00 - [3] - Quote Text Grant wrote: The problem is i build my suit to kill tanks, and LAV's. If it doesnt work then the AV grenades should just be removed from the game. I am built to kill them and put a majority of my sp into doing so. Im not hitting them with an AR. Please, PLEASE tell me your suit loadout so I can laugh at you. Is it adv (cause thats all you need) forgegun with AV nades? If so , then you're just bad or is it an ADV swarms with AV nades and proximity mines? thats all you need. Maybe you're using the wrong type of AV vs the tank? If so switch tactics?
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 22	Posted - 2013.05.20 20:49:00 - [4] - Quote Starne wrote: hey dude. u know that ur talking about a tank right? you know some thing that is over 10 times the size of a heavey, cost * tons of isk and skill points to make work and you want to kill it with a frag the size of your hand in 2 hits am i right? that dont even work in real life. now if you where to say that they should destory a tanks treds to keep it from running away i would say maybe. but to fully kill a tank with some thing that A is homing B dose more damage then a forge or most swarms and C can be throw so fast that u need a nano after 3 secs to get more is ***** dumb. Starne, when insulting someone, try to spell correctly. It makes you look like a little child if you dont put effort into it. The biggest point here is the use of "u' instead of 'you'. Such a simple thing can go a long way. Now, I'll be the first to admit I am not the best at spelling, but at least I try and put effort into it when insulting someone.
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 22	Posted - 2013.05.20 20:52:00 - [5] - Quote Mary Sedillo wrote: Mossellia Delt wrote: Starne wrote: hey dude. u know that ur talking about a tank right? you know some thing that is over 10 times the size of a heavey, cost * tons of isk and skill points to make work and you want to kill it with a frag the size of your hand in 2 hits am i right? that dont even work in real life. now if you where to say that they should destory a tanks treds to keep it from running away i would say maybe. but to fully kill a tank with some thing that A is homing B dose more damage then a forge or most swarms and C can be throw so fast that u need a nano after 3 secs to get more is ***** dumb. Starne, when insulting someone, try to spell correctly. It makes you look like a little child if you dont put effort into it. The biggest point here is the use of "u' instead of 'you'. Such a simple thing can go a long way. Now, I'll be the first to admit I am not the best at spelling, but at least I try and put effort into it when insulting someone. While his spelling is atrocious, his point is valid. Small SP/ISK cost item shouldn't be able to faceroll a tank solo. I dont disagree, look at my posts in this thread. I just think he should use proper spelling if he wants to insult someone. But... I really dont expect better from someone who uses reddit.
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 22	Posted - 2013.05.20 20:58:00 - [6] - Quote Mary Sedillo wrote: Mossellia Delt wrote: Mary Sedillo wrote: Mossellia Delt wrote: Starne wrote: hey dude. u know that ur talking about a tank right? you know some thing that is over 10 times the size of a heavey, cost * tons of isk and skill points to make work and you want to kill it with a frag the size of your hand in 2 hits am i right? that dont even work in real life. now if you where to say that they should destory a tanks treds to keep it from running away i would say maybe. but to fully kill a tank with some thing that A is homing B dose more damage then a forge or most swarms and C can be throw so fast that u need a nano after 3 secs to get more is ***** dumb. Starne, when insulting someone, try to spell correctly. It makes you look like a little child if you dont put effort into it. The biggest point here is the use of "u' instead of 'you'. Such a simple thing can go a long way. Now, I'll be the first to admit I am not the best at spelling, but at least I try and put effort into it when insulting someone. While his spelling is atrocious, his point is valid. Small SP/ISK cost item shouldn't be able to faceroll a tank solo. I dont disagree, look at my posts in this thread. I just think he should use proper spelling if he wants to insult someone. But... I really dont expect better from someone who uses reddit. Being condescending won't help your point get across any better. Just saying. Insults garner peoples attentions better then kindness. At least they do on the internet, so I humbly disagree.
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 22	Posted - 2013.05.20 21:03:00 - [7] - Quote Text Grant wrote: The way everyone keeps saying that teamwork is required to take out militia tanks will only end in 32 tanks rolling across the field. ANTI VEHICLE weapons should do what they say. ANTI VEHICLE (see I can into capslock) DO WHAT THEY SAY Stop being a scrub, want some help? Want to improve your fittings or tactics? Im sure MANY MANY people will be more than happy to help you. Heck, i'll help you if you want it. Stop trying to nerf crap thats currently underpowered or buff stuff that is currently overpowered.
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 22	Posted - 2013.05.20 21:07:00 - [8] - Quote Text Grant wrote: Maybe it already is AR514 fixed that for ya
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 22	Posted - 2013.05.20 21:12:00 - [9] - Quote Text Grant wrote: if it was AR 514 then at the end of the match tank drivers wouldnt be 30/0 If it wasnt AR514 90% of the userbase would be using other weapon. That tank only went 30/0 because of incompetence by your team.
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 22	Posted - 2013.05.20 21:21:00 - [10] - Quote Text Grant wrote: If it was AR 514 then 90% of the people on the forums would be agreeing with me. Seeing that everyone is defending the tank gods though... No ones agreeing with you because AV is overpowered. Get it right. I also have all day to argue if you want to go that route.

Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 22	Posted - 2013.05.20 21:32:00 - [11] - Quote Text Grant wrote: Seeing as you think its overpowered i have a couple of questions for you. How much damage would you have AV do? and are you a tanker or an AV? I would remove damage mods from the game and fix the way swarms work (turning at stupid angles). I would also give Dropships flares or chaff to counter swarms and beef up their shields/armour a bit. With the current changes to tanks I would also re introduce the cpu/pg skills they are currently missing. I would also remove militia AV and the free LAVs. Thats how I would go about fixing AV before looking at the numbers. As I stated earlier in the thread, I ran both vehicles and AV in chromozone. I currently run neither but have zero issues taking out anything with militia gear if I get one other person to help me.
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 22	Posted - 2013.05.20 21:43:00 - [12] - Quote Text Grant wrote: have you played av or tank in uprising after the buff to total HP? No, yet I can still kill tanks, LAVs and dropships with militia gear and tactics solo, heck, I dont even need tactics if I have ONE OTHER PERSON with militia gear helping me. I do on the other hand have tankers and AV players in my corp who agree with me through and through. One such forgegunner gets his jollies off on how easy it is to kill tanks and cackles like a mad man every time he does.
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 23	Posted - 2013.05.20 21:52:00 - [13] - Quote CLONE117 wrote: i would just keep free militia lav and the militia av. without fre lav how else would i be able to avoid sniper fire and move from point a to point b very quickly. Spend a pityful amount of isk on a militia LAV. They're what? 55k isk? Thats nothing, and with the recall feature its not always wasted.
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 23	Posted - 2013.05.20 21:56:00 - [14] - Quote Text Grant wrote: CharCharOdell wrote: Text Grant wrote: I just waited behind a Madrugar until its shield hardeners went away then hit it with 5 Lai Dai Packed AV Grenades before he got his blaster cannon on me and stopped me. Yes i had removed all his shields but this is a game killer. Anti vehicle grenades need to do their job. Lvl 1 tank or militia tank should blow without even needing a nanohive if i am running prototype AV. Request 1: speed. this build has made it much harder to maneuver. Request 2: nanohive fix. The new nanohives are barely worth carrying. i find myself running across the battlefield for ammo even though i carry nanohives. Request 3: remove buff to vehicles or add buff to AV to keep it balanced. At the current state you need 2 proto AV's to take out 1 militia tank. ^thinks he should solo a tank; gets mad when a tank is well built and piloted well but says nothing when he meets a stupid tanker who can't pilot at all and gets soloed by mlt swarms. CCP, you've nerfed us enough. Don't do it again. The fact that some of us r still hard to kill is a testament to our skill. there is no skill to driving into a group of red dots and not running away until you get hit by 3 proto grenades. You think its that easy to drive a tank? Im holding all I can back from calling you very rude names and getting myself banned on the forums because of your ignorance. Try this, spec into a tank, use five active moduels, try have situational awareness while aiming down your turret and watching hills and your surroundings for AV users. TRY IT. You'll be back on the forums QQing right afterwards because you have no IDEA how much irl skill it takes to be a competent tank driver. Then, ontop of all this, try being that tank driver who isnt skilled into anything else in a corp (or now PC) battle. When you have to worry about a new set of issues.
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 27	Posted - 2013.05.20 22:28:00 - [15] - Quote BOZ MR wrote: Text Grant wrote: [quote=Crazy Horse One Eight][quote=Crazy Horse One Eight]The OP must be trolling. "At the current state you need 2 proto AV's to take out 1 militia tank." A whole two AV grenades?? That's outrageous! Quick nerf vehicles or he'll run out of isk from buying his super expensive AV nades and rage quit. It takes me two or three good hits with an advanced large missile turret to kill a standard LAV and he wants to solo a tank with two nades? FFS.quote] read before you speak please Please stop writing. You make yourself seem more stup7d with every post you create. Im actually agreeing this this guy, that never happens. Something is about to go terribly wrong with the world. Also apologies for purposelly team killing your tank back in chromo.
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 28	Posted - 2013.05.20 22:30:00 - [16] - Quote CLONE117 wrote: Mossellia Delt wrote: CLONE117 wrote: i would just keep free militia lav and the militia av. without fre lav how else would i be able to avoid sniper fire and move from point a to point b very quickly. Spend a pityful amount of isk on a militia LAV. They're what? 55k isk? Thats nothing, and with the recall feature its not always wasted. ha ha ha most people i know on this game are flat broke because of expensive sut fittings they complain if somethings costs 7 isk to restock. free fittings are weak and they are a life savior. srry but if im going to spend money on something i want it to get me kills not run around the field and do nothing. plus recall is not effective... I might then ask your friends to get accountants. Im currently sitting at around 200 mil isk....
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 28	Posted - 2013.05.20 22:35:00 - [17] - Quote CLONE117 wrote: and im at half that but verfey few players have that amount of money so its stupid of u to go off of how much money u have urself... You'd be suprised how many players have much more then myself. One logi in my corp is at around 800 mil mark. But he's a cheap bugger. Please, please work on your spelling a little bit.
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 28	Posted - 2013.05.20 22:39:00 - [18] - Quote CLONE117 wrote: i was in a hurry im getting ready for a corp battle. nut still not many ppl have tons of isk to through around and this can be said for the broke noobs fresh from the battle academy... The newberries should have the most money, using militia fits and not suicide crashing 10 - 15 dropships a game for the lulz
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 28	Posted - 2013.05.20 22:54:00 - [19] - Quote Mary Sedillo wrote: Starne, when insulting someone, try to spell correctly. It makes you look like a little child if you dont put effort into it. The biggest point here is the use of "u' instead of 'you'. Such a simple thing can go a long way. Now, I'll be the first to admit I am not the best at spelling, but at least I try and put effort into it when insulting someone. While his spelling is atrocious, his point is valid. Small SP/ISK cost item shouldn't be able to faceroll a tank solo.[/quote] I dont disagree, look at my posts in this thread. I just think he should use proper spelling if he wants to insult someone. But... I really dont expect better from someone who uses reddit.[/quote] Insults garner peoples attentions better then kindness. At least they do on the internet, so I humbly disagree.[/quote] Enough people putting their concerns forward in an organized way also garners attention. Stop feeding the stereotype that gamers are basement dwelling trolls who lack any ability to communicate effectively. Thank you.[/quote] >not being that stereotype >2013 >ISHYGDDT I jest, I jest. but seriously, peaceful protests that try not to hurt peoples feelings dont work. Sometimes you need a riot or to be blunt with others.
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 28	Posted - 2013.05.20 22:56:00 - [20] - Quote CLONE117 wrote: still removing free lavs is a bad idea. if people want to spec into the lav let them but the only people who seem to want this vehicle removed are the ones who complain about getting run over by them. and as ive seen it lessons the gap in pub matches and lessons pubstomping. most players dont have a good counter to the tac ar or tank so the best solution to avoid horribly kdr is drive randomly around the map in a free vehicle and try to run people over. besides those free lavs can be killed easily so no reason to complain about them. and if u got ran over by 1 its ur own fault for running in the road they rnt really good at off road Terrain any m4 see how they flip over all the time now they are also alot harder to control. players dont have the isk or sp to spec into things so its easier to place sp into skills the increase militia gears effectiveness. and last time i checked newppl dont start with 10m isk they start at 0 isk... But they actually do start with isk. Im not saying remove the militia LAV, just the free one. My heavy alt wont be happy but it'll keep balance in the game.