I haven't noticed any problems with the aiming. it seems pretty good. Better then it was though the K/M still seems kinda weird, the DS3 is great.

Both gameplay and content need to be reasonably balanced. I do not think however that mechanics should be the absolute top priority.

There are parts of the playerbase who have no significant experience with other console shooters and to those the mechanics are not nearly as broken as to the competitve FPS guys. I'd argue from my own perspective, that the mechanics just have to be "good enough" and that the point at which this is the case varies between different players.

Therefore you have to take into consideration how many players are really dissatisfied with the current aiming and how many would rather have new features content or something entirely different and base your priorities on that, even if that means that some players will not stay.

Things that can help you today:

Restarting your PS3 - Every 5 or so matches you should restart your PS3...there is a very noticeable drop in frame rate the longer your PS3 is running DUST...even when you are just standing around your cell chatting with your corp mates.

Let your PS3 cool down - sometimes a restart works....but PS3s playing Dust over heat...turn it off let it sit for 15 to 30 min then turn it back on and play.

Get a keyboard and mouse - This won't work for everyone. I am sure people who have played halo for 10 years will not be helped...but for people like me who have played FPS since Marathon and Doom with a mouse and keyboard it will help you very very much.

Get a good mouse pad - yeah your mouse works on your jeans for web browsing...i am very impressed. Still a good mouse pad is more consistent.

Turn all that crap off on your PS3: http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/25980465/how-to-improve-ps3-frame-rate search Google with "improve PS3 frame rate" for more suggestions on what to turn off. The link gives you a good idea on what to turn off.

Play in your time zone: Last night at about 3 am pacific time i got face stomped by a bunch of Aussies...and the reason why was because i was on a server far far away. (they probably would have face stomped me anyway but i would have taken more of them with me if not fro the server lag) play the game at prime time for your time zone. Prime time is from about 4 PM to 11 pm in your time zone. by playing at these times it greatly increases the chance that you will be playing on a server near you.

I see what you're saying, however I believe what I'm about to say rings very true. Fans of EVE Online, especially those that bought a PS3 exclusively for Dust, will play it however terrible the game is (to a point.) Those invested so fully into the universe will undoubtedly play it, if only for the novelty factor.

However, in order to truly build an audience, to really suck people in, the core mechanics of the game have to be well executed. New players with no knowledge of EVE Online will likely pick this up, think to themselves "this feels like crap" and walk away forever.

Thank you for replying, but your points either don't really coordinate with what I was saying or don't apply to me.

I like the new flashy graphics, the new guns and dropsuits but it doesn't compensate for the destruction of the old aiming system. I know they won't go back to RAW input but having a virtual joystick is not an improvement. It's ok when using hipsfire but when you use the sights it slows down to ridiculous levels. Also, try moving the mouse in a smooth manner - it will jerk, try jerking it - and it goes smoothly.

I just shot a sniper sitting still about 3 yards away with a GEK and the first 5 bullets got blue shields....

Well they did tighten the aim up, the built in aimbot is not as forgiving anymore. ( it was a joke before )

Im fine with that, but not all matchs run well. From my point of view it feels like dysink, not all games are hard to aim in.

Since they made the aim so sharp, a small amount of dysink can play hard on a cqc encounter. I know its not just me when 4 guys in front of me cant drop my shields, it feels like a pillow fight sometimes.

I play on k/m,.

>aim assist
>kb/m

Your post made me puke a little

Typing from a iphone, but yea, "Aim assist" is an aim bot so puke if you need to. why you think we dont see hit markers as much anymore? get a marker then water hose your aim. its a no brainer. its easy, last build was for noobs.

K/M, its sweet an short.

I puked a little because only people who are bad use aim assist. It makes it worse that you would use it on a kb/m. Aim assist should be removed from all FPS's so people can learn how to use a controller or kb/m the right way.

ALL aiming engines have Assists built in silly, its just code that tells your client you hit, COD clones have super easy hit markers to crutch on..

Aim assist on or not, that is not what I was talking about anyway..

Yep, thats why I called it a aimbot =p

Im just a pc gamer, so what do I know huh...

Im just a independant pre alpha and alpha game tester and was a Dev on an indie game.

you say that like its a silver badge or something,. do I dare list the alpha's I been in on PC? naa, your not worth my time,. nice talking to you though..

Thank you for your responses, more people need to get involved on this conversation, especially CCP. Please try to remain on topic though.

I would also like to make a point that there really is no way of leveling the playing field between the mouse and controller. In almost every instance a well-seasoned veteran mouse player will have more precise aiming than a controller user, this is simply a fact. It's how both peripherals are designed and how we use them that makes each unique. There are also a lot of very good controller users that will frequently and consistently out-gun mouse users. It really does all come down to skill at the end of the day.

You can't really truly "balance" the two unless you severely cripple the mouse to the point that it becomes unusable, which seems to be what has happened here. If this was intended to try to level the playing field, instead of a supposed "bug" than they screwed up. As stated in the OP the game has to feel good in order to be truly enjoyable, especially by a more casual audience.

I'm all fine for turn speed caps for different suits though. Scouts should turn the fastest, then assault, then logistics, then heavy. I and many others don't even use really high sensitivity in the first place, I have to pick up my mouse just to do a 180 degree turn. I just like the feeling of it more, as I have more experience with it. The same way controller fans feel about their chosen device. But as of now, my preferred input method is broken.

Additionally, don't even start on "people should just learn how to use a controller" or "the mouse shouldn't even be in the game, this is a console" take note that you can buy both a mouse and keyboard combined for roughly $20. A new Dual Shock 3 will cost you upwards of $50 and beyond. Playing with a keyboard and mouse for Dust is not only cheaper, but is overall the better peripheral. More people should be using it instead of complaining, they just need to fix it and make it work properly.

This game went from looking bad yet playing good to looking good and playing like ****. That female scout's ass looks good under the war barge's dynamic lighting, but what's the point if I can't shoot the damn redberry in front of me?

Take Counter-Strike 1.6 for example. It was a pretty simple game, minimal weapons, all classes the same, it was very bare bones. But it played extraordinarily well. It was smooth, the aiming and hit detection was great, and look how well it did. One of the most successful competitive shooters ever, with a huge audience to this day.

You silly goose!

Your expectations are way to high comparing this LOL PS3 Halo wannabe game to one of the best ever competitive shooters we will ever see.

This game will never be anything close to a competitive shooters .

You are getting what we all payed for, a F2P broken game that is looking to make $ from LOL COD kids who like bright & shinny things.

I am going on record right now that we will never ever see DUST in any major competitive shooter tournaments, ever!

LOL competitive shooter.

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