Empires will fall though. Nobody will hold Model Heth forever.

Better solution in the meantime since it is likely going to take a major Sony patch to 'resolve' the issue.

Make an alt corp move all the grunts to that corp and keep all the squad leaders in your current, that way the only way they can get into PC is invites from the main corp's squad leaders only. Use a combined channel to announce times and call outs on inbound or use your forums. Grunt corp does no PC itself what so ever.

Anyone that gives trouble you boot em out.

I swear some of you FPSers would be smarter than that and beat me to the solution.

As the rules in New Eden are:

1. If you cannot afford to do it again, do not do it
2. Have a plan to kill everyone you meet.
3. If you cannot defend it, you certainly do not deserve it!

Some corps already do this, but what about corps that openly recruit to help new guys out? D-Uni is a great example of what being nice gets you.

A corp dedicated to helping new guys out.

It's a race to the bottom.

I for one will be interested to see what method CCP uses to address this issue. They can't readily ignore it for years like the old moon goo exploit in Eve Online.

Or they can ignore it. Although it will be a sad day when most people playing are doing it because they have to or can't hold null sov for their Eve Corp.

CCP forgot to add a bunch of FPS basics like kick vote, match start countdowns to allow ppl to spawn, working controls, key remapping, stable framerate etc etc..

In time your average FPS gamer isn't gonna care about Dust if these core basics aren't addressed. It's gonna turn into just a side game for Eve players so they can get their precious internet spaceship bonuses.

there should be a role system similar to eve, where members of a corporation must be given permission to enter PC by directors

Ain't happening until next Sony patch most likely which is an atagonizing 3 months.

Fix your issue now and survive the next 3 months.

Or die a slow death due to back stabbing and lax security in that time.

Choice is yours. Adapt or Die.

+ 1.

This game is an extension of EVE, thus the general backstabbing and plotting makes sense, as does implementing roles to stop it destroying corps with little effort.

I haven't read in-depth about this sabotage, but I see the problem. Honestly let's get it out in the open right now:

Planetary Conquest was never intended for the general populace.

It's for competitive, hardcore players.

I agree. In fact I read through the entire thread with the express intention of responding to this from the first page:

Planetary Conquest right now is indeed a game for a few elite players. If you stagger your district vulnerability periods there's essentially no reason to have more than eight people in your official "PC" squad. But I think that's a temporary thing, a product of the small battle sizes DUST is currently restricted to. CCP claims they've done internal testing with as many as 256 people in a battle (I'm not sure if that's each team or the sum total of both, but I'd wager it's the latter) so I'm fairly confident the intention is to increase battle size drastically over the course of the game's life span. When you can field a team of over 100 people it's not going to be realistic to keep PC restricted to your 1337 haxxor try-hard elite few. That's when the rest of us get to join in on the fun!

Hey guys.

Cool thread, full of good ideas!

We agree that it would be better to be able to restrict access to PC battles, and are currently discussing how we would implement that.

What we are discussing is doing this in phases, i.e. start with giving CEO's and directors the ability to kick from matches, set roles on members that you want participating in PC matches, to forming up into larger teams prior to the PC match taking place. We will add this to the roadmap and share more details in few weeks time for feedback and discussion.

Hey guys.

Cool thread, full of good ideas!

We agree that it would be better to be able to restrict access to PC battles, and are currently discussing how we would implement that.

What we are discussing is doing this in phases, i.e. start with giving CEO's and directors the ability to kick from matches, set roles on members that you want participating in PC matches, to forming up into larger teams prior to the PC match taking place. We will add this to the roadmap and share more details in few weeks time for feedback and discussion.

Looks like some folks are going to have to work on their gun game. :)

What we are discussing is doing this in phases, i.e. start with giving CEO's and directors the ability to kick from matches, set roles on members that you want participating in PC matches, to forming up into larger teams prior to the PC match taking place. We will add this to the roadmap and share more details in few weeks time for feedback and discussion.

Tough luck!

Thanks to the "tactics" employed by some upstanding corps, and individuals, YOU, as a new player, will be left without a serious corp.

Here's why. Players posing as corp members jumping into Planetary Conquest (PC) games, and inviting their lil buddiez along to team kill and just be a pain in the arse for the unfortunate corp they're sabotaging.

So, corps that openly recruited people, and helping out new guys with the game, won't be participating in PC due to the fact that they might be sabotaged. So, unfortunate corps like DUST University, got their district(s) taken away cuz of this tactic. Even if they wanted to continue in PC, there's no guarantees that history won't repeat itself.

Now, I can appreciate the fact that this is a built in mechanic, and people are using whatever tools that are made available to get the upper hand. Cool. I can go with that....but then I'll bring up the whole AFK SP farming issue that people have so much tears about.

It's an in game mechanic that people are using to gain an advantage.

Back to my argument. So as directors or a CEO, people have allot of power in the corp. They can take funds, kick people, and basically shut down a corp.

My question is, how can these people, who are in charge of an army of hundreds, if not THOUSANDS of people, not have the power to kick people from the battle?

Please keep your reply as none trollage as possible ...tryna have a serious discussion here. Merci.

Hey guys.

Cool thread, full of good ideas!

We agree that it would be better to be able to restrict access to PC battles, and are currently discussing how we would implement that.

What we are discussing is doing this in phases, i.e. start with giving CEO's and directors the ability to kick from matches, set roles on members that you want participating in PC matches, to forming up into larger teams prior to the PC match taking place. We will add this to the roadmap and share more details in few weeks time for feedback and discussion.

Better solution in the meantime since it is likely going to take a major Sony patch to 'resolve' the issue.

Make an alt corp move all the grunts to that corp and keep all the squad leaders in your current, that way the only way they can get into PC is invites from the main corp's squad leaders only. Use a combined channel to announce times and call outs on inbound or use your forums. Grunt corp does no PC itself what so ever.

Anyone that gives trouble you boot em out.

I swear some of you FPSers would be smarter than that and beat me to the solution.

As the rules in New Eden are:

1. If you cannot afford to do it again, do not do it
2. Have a plan to kill everyone you meet.
3. If you cannot defend it, you certainly do not deserve it!