there should be a role system similar to eve, where members of a corporation must be given permission to enter PC by directors

there should be a role system similar to eve, where members of a corporation must be given permission to enter PC by directors

Sabotaging is fine and fun - but when it's as easy as asking to join on a 500,000 SP alt - getting in - then holding PC ransom the moment it comes up... then that's not meta - that's an issue.

Apparently DUST players are either too idiotic, entitled, or lazy to use proper operational security. Holding corporations exist for a reason.

Better solution in the meantime since it is likely going to take a major Sony patch to 'resolve' the issue.

Make an alt corp move all the grunts to that corp and keep all the squad leaders in your current, that way the only way they can get into PC is invites from the main corp's squad leaders only. Use a combined channel to announce times and call outs on inbound or use your forums. Grunt corp does no PC itself what so ever.

Anyone that gives trouble you boot em out.

A better solution would be "Kick Scrub From Squad" option. That's all we need!

Better solution in the meantime since it is likely going to take a major Sony patch to 'resolve' the issue.

Make an alt corp move all the grunts to that corp and keep all the squad leaders in your current, that way the only way they can get into PC is invites from the main corp's squad leaders only. Use a combined channel to announce times and call outs on inbound or use your forums. Grunt corp does no PC itself what so ever.

Anyone that gives trouble you boot em out.

there should be a role system similar to eve, where members of a corporation must be given permission to enter PC by directors

Ain't happening until next Sony patch most likely which is an atagonizing 3 months.

Fix your issue now and survive the next 3 months.

Or die a slow death due to back stabbing and lax security in that time.

Choice is yours. Adapt or Die.

Some corps already do this, but what about corps that openly recruit to help new guys out? D-Uni is a great example of what being nice gets you.

A corp dedicated to helping new guys out.

What about new people that came over to see what PC is about? Or new people wanting to be part of a serious corp? Tell them to suck it up cuz they not gonna see PC in action?

Sounds like a great way to turn people away I guess.

LOL. Back stabbers can backstab only once. Chronos basically messed up by bringing the meta game mentality this early in PC. Its no longer Adapt or Die. Its Adapt and Kill or Adapt and Destroy.

I haven't read in-depth about this sabotage, but I see the problem. Honestly let's get it out in the open right now:

Planetary Conquest was never intended for the general populace.

It's for competitive, hardcore players. There are benefits for casuals to play but they will get destroyed. Beta players etc. are the only people that really have a place in PC. People that are committed to long-term play, have a great understanding of how this game works.

Corps. that are hiring third party mercs or have loose recruitment policies will learn very quickly to not be so trusting. These new guys (the legit ones) will just be a liability in either skill or sp, or both.

If you're a new guy reading this thead don't worry too much about Planetary Conquest; it's basically just Skirmish with people playing that have over 5mil sp AT LEAST. Focus on figuring the game out, learning the maps etc.

Grunt corp can easily let newer guys in, have evaluation times, and since they're invite into PC only you only take who you think deserves to go from experience in non-PC battles elsewhere such as FW and high sec action. Officer corp only recruits the most trusted and faithful of the grunts after an extensive evaluation period.

So you're saying, new people coming over are mainly casual. Partly right, but I know competitive people that came over to try it out.

If you can't see a problem in new people NOT getting recruited, then lol. i can't make you see the problem of new people trying out DUST and can't get into a serious corp.

Tell them too HTFU? That's the solution to everything in DUST I see.

Yes,yes and more yes.

Really my only problem with it,as it is,its far to easy to sneak in and mess stuff up.

A green light system I would like.

You put a lot of words into my mouth and made a lot of assumptions. I'll give you a thought out response when you understand what I said.

I really,don't mind the spying,trolling,thievery,savagery,and debauchery.

As it is now,any system that I see that at least gives the leaders of a corp,the ability to allow certain groups go in would be better.I mean for leaders shouldn't they have the say in saying who fights and represents there corp?

nope, I understood what you said, and you missed the point of this whole argument. Your answer to new people is don't bother with PC and forget about getting into a well established corp...

GG

Nope, I said don't expect to be a big shot without earning it. Don't expect corps to be 100% willing to recruit you without showing loyalty. I said PC the odds areagainst you so make sure you are prepared enough so that your knowledge and skill make up for your lack of SP.


My point is that assholes creating alts have ruined the new player experience in a game that just came out of beta and to not expect everybody to be nice as a result. I'm all for new guys getting into big corps but corps need to be more than just dudes wearing thesame color. They need to be a team willing to worktogether and sacrifice if necessary for the greater good.

Now stop putting words in my mouth and pretending like you know me. I also never said "HTFU" or implied that's what people need to do. If you have that mentality embedded in you that is not my fault. Hate the game if you need to but it is what it is and people in general are horrible creatures.

Ignoring this thead from here on.

Nope, I said don't expect to be a big shot without earning it. Don't expect corps to be 100% willing to recruit you without showing loyalty. I said PC the odds areagainst you so make sure you are prepared enough so that your knowledge and skill make up for your lack of SP.

My point is that assholes creating alts have ruined the new player experience in a game that just came out of beta and to not expect everybody to be nice as a result. I'm all for new guys getting into big corps but corps need to be more than just dudes wearing thesame color. They need to be a team willing to worktogether and sacrifice if necessary for the greater good.

Now stop putting words in my mouth and pretending like you know me. I also never said "HTFU" or implied that's what people need to do. If you have that mentality embedded in you that is not my fault. Hate the game if you need to but it is what it is and people in general are horrible creatures.

Ignoring this thead from here on.