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TheMarkOf22
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:03:00 -
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Seriously need a respec system maybe one similar to MAG, where you earn points towards a respec by playing games, would also reduce the amount of AFkers |
IamI3rian
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:06:00 -
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There's an alt for that. |
Jin Robot
Polar Gooks
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:11:00 -
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You can try lots of different styles of gameplay with minimal SP, so stop complaining. If you are still bored dont expect CCP to cater to you at the cost of their vision.
No more respecs, no respec systems, get over it. |
hooc order
Deep Space Republic
Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:12:00 -
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TheMarkOf22 wrote:Seriously need a respec system maybe one similar to MAG, where you earn points towards a respec by playing games, would also reduce the amount of AFkers
So not only does the RPG style SP/level system turn away new players by putting them up against players with god mode tuned on but it makes the game boring for old players.
Sometimes i think CCP would have been better off picking random names out of the phone book and letting them design Dust 514. |
Delirium Inferno
Edoras Corporation
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:13:00 -
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Level 1 in each skill is a very minimal SP investment, it's not hard to try out other playstyles without breaking the SP bank. Also several items have militia variants. |
Full Metal Kitten
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:13:00 -
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Are you trolling, Mark? Because that idea is terrible. This isn't an arcade game. |
Full Metal Kitten
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:14:00 -
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hooc order wrote:Sometimes i think CCP would have been better off picking random names out of the phone book and letting them design Dust 514.
You clearly don't understand what this game is about. I wanted to dislike your post but there's no button for that. |
Knarf Black
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:16:00 -
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Delirium Inferno wrote:Level 1 in each skill is a very minimal SP investment, it's not hard to try out other playstyles without breaking the SP bank. Also several items have militia variants.
While you are 100% correct, that's not going to be good enough for OP, who probably can't stand the thought of running anything less than Proto gear.
I wonder what it is going to take to break the playerbase's "all proto all the time" mentality. |
Delirium Inferno
Edoras Corporation
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:20:00 -
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Knarf Black wrote:Delirium Inferno wrote:Level 1 in each skill is a very minimal SP investment, it's not hard to try out other playstyles without breaking the SP bank. Also several items have militia variants. While you are 100% correct, that's not going to be good enough for OP, who probably can't stand the thought of running anything less than Proto gear. I wonder what it is going to take to break the playerbase's "all proto all the time" mentality. I agree that this is going to be a hard problem to fix but one that ultimately needs to be happened. Everyone is so used to leveling up, getting more powerful, and never looking back. It's going to be no small task for CCP, that's for sure.
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TheMarkOf22
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:25:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:You can try lots of different styles of gameplay with minimal SP, so stop complaining. If you are still bored dont expect CCP to cater to you at the cost of their vision.
No more respecs, no respec systems, get over it.
yes because basic gear really shows you what that class is capable of... |
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TheMarkOf22
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:25:00 -
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IamI3rian wrote:There's an alt for that.
I don't have any alt's with 8 mill plus sp |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:28:00 -
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Duvolle tact. and Assault / logi suit...
Is there anything else that's relevant out there?  |
IamI3rian
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:29:00 -
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Knarf Black wrote:I wonder what it is going to take to break the playerbase's "all proto all the time" mentality.
Buying clones. I suspect there's a reason the IMPS don't have any land. They simply cannot (read: choose not to) afford to do so. The thought of spawning in advanced gear makes them spit on the floor in disgust. = ) |
IamI3rian
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:30:00 -
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TheMarkOf22 wrote:IamI3rian wrote:There's an alt for that. I don't have any alt's with 8 mill plus sp
Your lack of foresight is not my concern. = )
I've got more than one with 6m+
Methinks you ought to start creating them now? In a few months of just passive they'll be halfway there. Kinda what I did a few months ago. = ) |
TheMarkOf22
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:31:00 -
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IamI3rian wrote:Knarf Black wrote:I wonder what it is going to take to break the playerbase's "all proto all the time" mentality. Buying clones. I suspect there's a reason the IMPS don't have any land. They simply cannot (read: choose not to) afford to do so. The thought of spawning in advanced gear makes them spit on the floor in disgust. = )
we own land.... |
IamI3rian
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:33:00 -
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TheMarkOf22 wrote:IamI3rian wrote:Knarf Black wrote:I wonder what it is going to take to break the playerbase's "all proto all the time" mentality. Buying clones. I suspect there's a reason the IMPS don't have any land. They simply cannot (read: choose not to) afford to do so. The thought of spawning in advanced gear makes them spit on the floor in disgust. = ) we own land....
Well it looks like I've got no idea what I'm talking about then, doesn't it? |
TheMarkOf22
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:34:00 -
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IamI3rian wrote:TheMarkOf22 wrote:IamI3rian wrote:There's an alt for that. I don't have any alt's with 8 mill plus sp Your lack of foresight is not my concern. = ) I've got more than one with 6m+ Methinks you ought to start creating them now? In a few months of just passive they'll be halfway there. Kinda what I did a few months ago. = )
Actually got about 30 characters with roughly 3 mill sp, your lack of intelligence is not my concern. :) |
TheMarkOf22
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:35:00 -
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IamI3rian wrote:TheMarkOf22 wrote:IamI3rian wrote:Knarf Black wrote:I wonder what it is going to take to break the playerbase's "all proto all the time" mentality. Buying clones. I suspect there's a reason the IMPS don't have any land. They simply cannot (read: choose not to) afford to do so. The thought of spawning in advanced gear makes them spit on the floor in disgust. = ) we own land.... Well it looks like I've got no idea what I'm talking about then, doesn't it?
At least you fit right in with the majority |
Severance Pay
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:37:00 -
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This is what I intend to do. I am going to cross spec into other suits and weapons, possibly vehicles. I am going to grind the sp day and night. I am going to use all of my classes regardless of howcomplete/incomplete the growth in them is so that I can better understand it by playing through it. In the end I will be capable of playing multiple roles on the battlefield and it will not be through easymode, it will be from hardwork and dedication to my classes. |
mikegunnz
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:37:00 -
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I'm all for the idea of taking accountability for your actions. I don't want people just respec on a whim.
HOWEVER, sometimes people make mistakes. Sometimes, CCP nerfs weapons/gear/suits/etc and it changes the value/functionality of what you have spec'ed into. Because of this, I think people should be able to respec if they need to, but it should be at a cost. This way, we don't have everybody just respeccing all the time.
I'd suggest, CCP offer the mechanic to allow people to respec, but it should cost available/unspent SP.
Perhaps 100,000 SP? Enough where it won't break you if you do it once or twice in your Dust career, but it will sting if you do it often. |
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Kesi Raae Kaae
Much Crying Old Experts
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:39:00 -
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Would be nice to see militia versions of every weapon. |
Jin Robot
Polar Gooks
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:39:00 -
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TheMarkOf22 wrote:Jin Robot wrote:You can try lots of different styles of gameplay with minimal SP, so stop complaining. If you are still bored dont expect CCP to cater to you at the cost of their vision.
No more respecs, no respec systems, get over it. yes because basic gear really shows you what that class is capable of...
It shows enough. I get it now though, you want a short cut. You dont feel like using anything but the best and feel entitled to it. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:40:00 -
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There is better skill planning for that.
Luckily there is also no skill cap either. So over time you can be well geared in all roles.
However at the cheap cheap investment of 8 million skill points you should be able to be able to use base gear of everything and have max fitting and HP values to work with and being able to play the 'bare minimum' of ALL the roles. |
Cpt Murd0ck
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:41:00 -
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Well from day one you should have at least 2 alt running passive SP.
By the time you have grinded up your main to the point that you are bored the alts should have a decent amount of SP to try stuff out which you don't need 8mil+ SP to do.
And if you get bored to quickly for that then i'm sure that there are some shiny things lying around the house that may hold your attention  |
low genius
The Sound Of Freedom
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:42:00 -
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TheMarkOf22 wrote:Seriously need a respec system maybe one similar to MAG, where you earn points towards a respec by playing games, would also reduce the amount of AFkers
no. |
Malkai Inos
The Vanguardians
Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:42:00 -
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mikegunnz wrote:I'm all for the idea of taking accountability for your actions. I don't want people just respec on a whim.
HOWEVER, sometimes people make mistakes. Sometimes, CCP nerfs weapons/gear/suits/etc and it changes the value/functionality of what you have spec'ed into. Because of this, I think people should be able to respec if they need to, but it should be at a cost. This way, we don't have everybody just respeccing all the time.
I'd suggest, CCP offer the mechanic to allow people to respec, but it should cost available/unspent SP.
Perhaps 100,000 SP? Enough where it won't break you if you do it once or twice in your Dust career, but it will sting if you do it often.
It will sting you not a bit if you have enough SP to proto whatever you want to do and don't intend to respec more then once a week. |
Jin Robot
Polar Gooks
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:43:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:There is better skill planning for that.
Luckily there is also no skill cap either. So over time you can be well geared in all roles.
However at the cheap cheap investment of 8 million skill points you should be able to be able to use base gear of everything and have max fitting and HP values to work with and being able to play the 'bare minimum' of ALL the roles.
He sounds like a 'bare maximum or nothing' kinda guy |
TheMarkOf22
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:44:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:There is better skill planning for that.
Luckily there is also no skill cap either. So over time you can be well geared in all roles.
However at the cheap cheap investment of 8 million skill points you should be able to be able to use base gear of everything and have max fitting and HP values to work with and being able to play the 'bare minimum' of ALL the roles.
Why would I spread myself thin on a main account, while being a major part of our corps PC?
Makes no sense....
Also with no ability to test/try things out without major investment is just plain awful game design |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
ROFL BROS
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:44:00 -
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Delirium Inferno wrote:Level 1 in each skill is a very minimal SP investment, it's not hard to try out other playstyles without breaking the SP bank. Also several items have militia variants.
Pidgey doesn't roll anything bellow proto  |
Malkai Inos
The Vanguardians
Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:48:00 -
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TheMarkOf22 wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:There is better skill planning for that.
Luckily there is also no skill cap either. So over time you can be well geared in all roles.
However at the cheap cheap investment of 8 million skill points you should be able to be able to use base gear of everything and have max fitting and HP values to work with and being able to play the 'bare minimum' of ALL the roles. Why would I spread myself thin on a main account, while being a major part of our corps PC? Makes no sense.... Also with no ability to test/try things out without major investment is just plain awful game design
You don't seem to understand the concept of tradeoffs.
You can be an average generalist or a strong specialist. Not both. |
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