Poor players will blow though all that isk quickly enough.

Poor players will blow though all that isk quickly enough.

CCP has already said they intend to implement a player-player market within DUST, and eventually link it to eve, but that they're doing it slowly and carefully. I doubt they're going to be swayed to speed it up by us, so that's not going to help the proto pubstomping any time soon.

I think upping the ante for FW matches might be a better, or at least far more expedient solution. Offering something other than Skirmish in FW, too...

We need bigger ISK sinks

And we want our ISK to go to NPCs and not other players why exactly?

Give free vehicle skills to the richer players and watch their wallets drain.

Weaker players (not just poor players... average players too) cannot compete UNLESS they also go proto... meaning that they will bankrupt themselves trying to keep pace, then be stuck using advanced or basic gear... where they will get their kittens handed to them even more.

The isk conversion was a bit excessive. I had something like 245mil, and now I have several stacks of 500+ proto builds ...What's worse is that I really-really want to use up my D.T.ARs before they nerf them.

The situation isn't so dire, because there could be a random collection of unlikely heroes (Ahrendee Mercenaries) who can rally the n00bs for a comeback assault. The coms action plays out something like this, "there's a bunch of drunken idiots running around the base in protosuits (me) and they're just good enough to beat my level 3 gear..." That's where the hero in you perks up - you know you can afford to end their foolish pub-stomp - and so, for the good of all, you turn the tide with your own 170K fits

As a omni soldier I know that gear (quality) doesn't make the soldier.

Blueberries generally retreat to the redline and don't come back out, once all the points go red or the kills start to be too one-sided. In squads from 4-6, us RND guys (Ahrendee) will push to grab one point... or perhaps drop an uplink or two.... and end up playing 5 vs 16, because the blueberries have given up. We get swarmed, killed, our spawn points get popped, camped or rehacked.... and we're back to spawning behind the red line. We've just lost our try-hard proto gear... and the blueberries are sniping, hiding, or washing the bay in the MCC.

Only slightly, I still kill idiots with my milita weapons because they don't know how to strafe or they run out in the open. Just the amount of bullets it requires to kill them slightly increases.

lol the blueberries has given up as soon as they touch the power button on the PS3.

While I'm happy to bust out my cape, tights and ring of power, the fact is this:

Blueberries generally retreat to the redline and don't come back out, once all the points go red or the kills start to be too one-sided. In squads from 4-6, us RND guys (Ahrendee) will push to grab one point... or perhaps drop an uplink or two.... and end up playing 5 vs 16, because the blueberries have given up. We get swarmed, killed, our spawn points get popped, camped or rehacked.... and we're back to spawning behind the red line. We've just lost our try-hard proto gear... and the blueberries are sniping, hiding, or washing the bay in the MCC.


Now, everyone will get redlined every now and then, but I think all can agree that the most fun matches are the evenly matched ones.... where you're winning by less than 5 clones, or are neck-and-neck on the MCC's hp.... redline blowouts suck for both teams.... just they suck a little less for the winners... but they still suck.

Only slightly, I still kill idiots with my milita weapons because they don't know how to strafe or they run out in the open. Just the amount of bullets it requires to kill them slightly increases.

How do you know that they don't know how to strafe? Maybe they are just boycotting strafing. It is possible.

strafing is important,

Here's the problem with that, though:

Weaker players (not just poor players... average players too) cannot compete UNLESS they also go proto... meaning that they will bankrupt themselves trying to keep pace, then be stuck using advanced or basic gear... where they will get their kittens handed to them even more.

So what happens then?

They get frustrated by getting fragged left and right, and quit?
They AFK in matches to get payouts and skills, while not contributing to the match and making the game better?
They go red-line sniper, in an effort to save ISK?

How does the top 5% curb-stomping the other 95% of the playerbase make the game healthy?

The thing that really gets me about strafing is how one can strafe back n forth in front of my HMG at a range of about 10 - 15 meters and take NO DAMAGE!!!!!

Only slightly, I still kill idiots with my milita weapons because they don't know how to strafe or they run out in the open. Just the amount of bullets it requires to kill them slightly increases.

I primarly play with proto gear all the time and i also never avoid a good 1(me) vs 4 or 6 these days when it presents itself.
And i can and have been able to fund protogear all the time without ever dipping lower in my ISK pool at the end of the day (i run solo, well i team up from time to time but we mostly are solo playing in a team)

When i swap to my alt, with 500k sp for some trialruns, i dont really perform allot less with nearly half my HP pool even crossing protosuits.

At the end of the day its the player, not the suit, the suit just amplefies whats inside of it, if its good with Militia gear, its better, if its awsome its super awesome, if its crap-tastic, it might be mediocre when using a proto.

Good still beats Mediocre any time of day.




Its called terrible aim, by playing more, you can learn to get better, some of us have only been doing FPS games for 20 years, we might have a lead on you.

If CCP doesn't want people to rock proto all the time and keep it as their "sunday best" ISK cannot be the only barrier for use after they've earned up enough SP to use them.


Money barriers are completely worthless as something to discourage active use, since players will always find a way to afford the best stuff.


Honestly, I'd love to see some kind of system that had people pick and choose what gear they bring. Maybe the 'goo' our gear is made up of has a finite supply allocated for each battle, and using proto gear uses up a large amount of that supply? I dunno.
I've got mixed feelings on it. On one hand, I like that one can progress and use the top tier all the time after they've earned it. On the other, I think it makes things kind of boring to know that after a certain point, everyone's going to be rocking proto suits all the time.

This. I always laugh when i kill a Guy in proto armor with my standard gear.
So many isk wasted.

Well, I think the militaries of the world need to work on this since it is so very very important.

Seriously though, I disagree, strafing is just some dumb **** that caught on cause some little ADHD kid who missed his meds did it in a match in the early days of FPS and then everyone started doing it because he had a lucky match while running around jiggling like some parkinsons patient "THE DOCTORS SAY I HAVE ADHD, I CALL IT GUNGAME!!!!!!"

Looks stupid too.