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Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
254
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Posted - 2013.05.17 16:23:00 -
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Okay yes I posted this the other day, but I hope to now go into further detail about how much Dust sucks because of one thing.
Lack of teamwork.
Been playing Dust off and on since the early beta days. And I've noticed that people play this game exactly like CoD or Battlefield. Run and gun and don't help ANYONE unless it directly benefits you. I realize that's why I hate this game.
"Get a corp" : Corps don't help, I've been in them. And every time I try to take the role of squad leader and do some real PTFO'ing, people bi*** at me because I sound bossy. And most corps just mass recruit instead of actually paying any attention to how good a player is or how they act, or if they listen. Happened with 3 of the major corps i was in.
Nanohives, nanoinjectors, repair tools, drop uplinks: Nobody uses them. Every once in a while I might see a nanohive, but that's it. When I die it says "TRIAGE UNIT DETECTED IN THE VICINITY" standing on top of my body shooting at a sniper across the map with a militia SMG. This happens ALL the time, in every game mode. A triage unit will be one foot away and not do anything. I haven't even seen anyone use a drop uplink yet. Not since I was in corp battles. Never seen anyone use a repair tool.
General idiocy: Oh my goodness, the amount of sheer stupidity I see in this game is off the charts. I will be pinned down behind a rock with two guys coming at me, my ENTIRE team will be not even 20 yards away, and they pay no attention to the enemy. How blind or stupid do you have to be to not see someone ONE FOOT in front of you? Even with me screaming into the microphone "Pinned down, need covering fire." nobody pays any attention. See a tank? "Oh I better shoot at it with my scrambler pistol. That's sure to kill it!" ...What?
Microphones: Nobody uses them except for me. And when they do use them, it's usually a dog barking, a baby screaming, or a 10 year old "MOOOOOOOOOM, GET ME A GRILLED CHEEEEEESE" followed by them smacking their lips like a stoned horse that hasn't had grass for a week. Oh and of course the random noise generators which produce ear curdling loud noises into your eardrums.
Bad squad leaders: These are the worst. The ones that don't use any squad commands, EVER. Oh wait, that's all of them. Or if they do happen to set a defend order, they do it on themselves then instantly die. or they set it on themselves and charge towards a tank.
For these reasons I have gone lone wolf and have decided to help nobody but myself, if you won't help me, I won't help you. I'm tired of carrying teams single handed. It's gotten so bad I don't even go for objectives anymore. I just counter-snipe. I've never had an even remotely smart squad in a PUB. Never.
There should be some kind of filter for games. One that says "Smart people who can aim, get kills, and use team-work" and the other that says "For 99.9% of Dust players that can't aim for sh*t, never use teamwork, and go 0/53 every game."
All I'm asking for is for ONE group of people to show me there is hope that I can find smart people on this game. Ones that use mics, teamwork, skill, and nanoinjectors.
"There seems to be no sign of intelligent life on this planet" |
Toyboi
BetaMax. CRONOS.
57
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Posted - 2013.05.17 16:29:00 -
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Fiasco Llana wrote:Okay yes I posted this the other day, but I hope to now go into further detail about how much Dust sucks because of one thing. Lack of teamwork. Been playing Dust off and on since the early beta days. And I've noticed that people play this game exactly like CoD or Battlefield. Run and gun and don't help ANYONE unless it directly benefits you. I realize that's why I hate this game. "Get a corp" : Corps don't help, I've been in them. And every time I try to take the role of squad leader and do some real PTFO'ing, people bi*** at me because I sound bossy. And most corps just mass recruit instead of actually paying any attention to how good a player is or how they act, or if they listen. Happened with 3 of the major corps i was in. Nanohives, nanoinjectors, repair tools, drop uplinks: Nobody uses them. Every once in a while I might see a nanohive, but that's it. When I die it says "TRIAGE UNIT DETECTED IN THE VICINITY" standing on top of my body shooting at a sniper across the map with a militia SMG. This happens ALL the time, in every game mode. A triage unit will be one foot away and not do anything. I haven't even seen anyone use a drop uplink yet. Not since I was in corp battles. Never seen anyone use a repair tool. General idiocy: Oh my goodness, the amount of sheer stupidity I see in this game is off the charts. I will be pinned down behind a rock with two guys coming at me, my ENTIRE team will be not even 20 yards away, and they pay no attention to the enemy. How blind or stupid do you have to be to not see someone ONE FOOT in front of you? Even with me screaming into the microphone "Pinned down, need covering fire." nobody pays any attention. See a tank? "Oh I better shoot at it with my scrambler pistol. That's sure to kill it!" ...What? Microphones: Nobody uses them except for me. And when they do use them, it's usually a dog barking, a baby screaming, or a 10 year old "MOOOOOOOOOM, GET ME A GRILLED CHEEEEEESE" followed by them smacking their lips like a stoned horse that hasn't had grass for a week. Oh and of course the random noise generators which produce ear curdling loud noises into your eardrums. Bad squad leaders: These are the worst. The ones that don't use any squad commands, EVER. Oh wait, that's all of them. Or if they do happen to set a defend order, they do it on themselves then instantly die. or they set it on themselves and charge towards a tank. For these reasons I have gone lone wolf and have decided to help nobody but myself, if you won't help me, I won't help you. I'm tired of carrying teams single handed. It's gotten so bad I don't even go for objectives anymore. I just counter-snipe. I've never had an even remotely smart squad in a PUB. Never. There should be some kind of filter for games. One that says "Smart people who can aim, get kills, and use team-work" and the other that says "For 99.9% of Dust players that can't aim for sh*t, never use teamwork, and go 0/53 every game." All I'm asking for is for ONE group of people to show me there is hope that I can find smart people on this game. Ones that use mics, teamwork, skill, and nanoinjectors. "There seems to be no sign of intelligent life on this planet"
+1 i had fun while reading this
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Scramble Scrub
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
217
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Posted - 2013.05.17 16:32:00 -
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Which corps are you referring to? |
Sponglyboy Squaredoo
Not Guilty EoN.
54
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Posted - 2013.05.17 16:33:00 -
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1.Simply the people you are playing with.
2.I would like to know what corps you're referring to |
Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
254
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Posted - 2013.05.17 16:35:00 -
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Sponglyboy Squaredoo wrote:1.Simply the people you are playing with.
2.I would like to know what corps you're referring to
How do I get the same type of people over 79 games in a row? 79 losses in a row. 79.
Seventy-Nine.
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Cpt Murd0ck
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
180
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Posted - 2013.05.17 16:35:00 -
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I don't even have a corp and randomly join squads of mercs.
Some of the time I get a suedo squad thats really just a kitchen sink job together for the OB.
And the rest of the time its mainly people who don't really have a clue what they are doing. That is not there fault its CCPs. I love the game but the info on how to play for a console game is really bad.
On PC this level of info is ok because PC gamers generaly go on forums and such but not so much on consoles. add the free to play element and you have a whole group of people out of the loop.
I constantly hear mis-information about game mechanics etc being spread unintentionaly by casual players. This is not to say there arn't skilled players in pub and FW the latter having the majority imo. I do occasionally get in a decent squad.
as for nanohives the std varient which was most likley the one everyone used to use was nerfed to the point of being useless.
and nanite injectors are seriously bugged to the point of putting logis in danger.
I also understand when people say join a corp because when I joined my first eve corp the whole game changed for the better but this game has to work from the first impression to keep non-invested players playing and more importantly buying aurum.
ahhh rant over |
Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
345
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Posted - 2013.05.17 16:36:00 -
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I like my corp, I don't play a whole lot, but when I do I have a good squad |
charlesnette dalari
Creative Killers DARKSTAR ARMY
216
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Posted - 2013.05.17 16:37:00 -
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Couple suggestions,
I know you say you were in corps that said you were bossy for actually acting as a true squad leader. Find a better corp there are corps in dust that tell members the squad leader is that elements leader and are expected to give orders as well as take them from the field commander. If the corps you were in didn't play with a command hIerarchy then you need a new one that does, they do exist.
Also keep in mind with the higher sp requirements of uprising most people spent sp first on core skills and dropsuits. As time goes on you will see more repair tools being used. I was repaired more yesterday than i have since the build was released.
There is a nanite injector bug causing problems reviving. Once that bug is fixed i am sure you will see it being used more often..
Dust definitely requires teamwork for success and i think you just need to find the right group to run with. You said you are lone wolfing now and not helping anyone yourself. This definitely wont make things better for you or anyone else around you. It is also pretty hypocritical. |
Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
255
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Posted - 2013.05.17 16:39:00 -
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I was in Beta-Max, but it was a real mess when I was in it. No offense to what's-her-face. But it was a terrible experience. Total chaos, it was when all the good members of betamax went to imperfects and I couldn't get in imperfects because Zitro hated me.
Was also in STB, which was my only good experience in a corp. But I got kicked out because of someone I won't name here.
There, for people who wanted to know. |
Sponglyboy Squaredoo
Not Guilty EoN.
54
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Posted - 2013.05.17 16:39:00 -
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Fiasco Llana wrote:Sponglyboy Squaredoo wrote:1.Simply the people you are playing with.
2.I would like to know what corps you're referring to How do I get the same type of people over 79 games in a row? 79 losses in a row. 79. Seventy-Nine.
Don't ever rely on blue berries. You don't have to play the game long to know that, lone wolfing won't do you any better. |
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aden slayer
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
511
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Posted - 2013.05.17 16:40:00 -
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Nanite injectors are broken as of now. So Logibros like me are having a bad day trying to do our jobs.
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Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
255
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Posted - 2013.05.17 16:43:00 -
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Sponglyboy Squaredoo wrote:Fiasco Llana wrote:Sponglyboy Squaredoo wrote:1.Simply the people you are playing with.
2.I would like to know what corps you're referring to How do I get the same type of people over 79 games in a row? 79 losses in a row. 79. Seventy-Nine. Don't ever rely on blue berries. You don't have to play the game long to know that, lone wolfing won't do you any better.
I'm starting to go lone wolf because it's futile to try with the mass amounts of dumb players.
I hate to keep beating a dead stoned horse, but Dust players (at least the ones i get on my team every f***ing game) are totally moronic. There's no choice but to play lone wolf. |
Sponglyboy Squaredoo
Not Guilty EoN.
54
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Posted - 2013.05.17 16:43:00 -
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Fiasco Llana wrote:I was in Beta-Max, but it was a real mess when I was in it. No offense to what's-her-face. But it was a terrible experience. Total chaos, it was when all the good members of betamax went to imperfects and I couldn't get in imperfects because Zitro hated me.
Was also in STB, which was my only good experience in a corp. But I got kicked out because of someone I won't name here.
There, for people who wanted to know.
I guess you can save new berries the trouble by letting them know that Betamax isn't a good start... or finish. |
Sponglyboy Squaredoo
Not Guilty EoN.
54
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Posted - 2013.05.17 16:44:00 -
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Fiasco Llana wrote:Sponglyboy Squaredoo wrote:Fiasco Llana wrote:Sponglyboy Squaredoo wrote:1.Simply the people you are playing with.
2.I would like to know what corps you're referring to How do I get the same type of people over 79 games in a row? 79 losses in a row. 79. Seventy-Nine. Don't ever rely on blue berries. You don't have to play the game long to know that, lone wolfing won't do you any better. I'm starting to go lone wolf because it's futile to try with the mass amounts of dumb players. I hate to keep beating a dead stoned horse, but Dust players (at least the ones i get on my team every f***ing game) are totally moronic. There's no choice but to play lone wolf.
Message me in-game sometime and I'll make sure you're provided with a full squad of players who know how to play Dust. |
Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
255
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Posted - 2013.05.17 16:45:00 -
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Sponglyboy Squaredoo wrote:Fiasco Llana wrote:I was in Beta-Max, but it was a real mess when I was in it. No offense to what's-her-face. But it was a terrible experience. Total chaos, it was when all the good members of betamax went to imperfects and I couldn't get in imperfects because Zitro hated me.
Was also in STB, which was my only good experience in a corp. But I got kicked out because of someone I won't name here.
There, for people who wanted to know. I guess you can save new berries the trouble by letting them know that Betamax isn't a good start... or finish.
I wouldn't know if they are good now or not honestly. Never going back though. |
Talruum Tezztarozza
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
124
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Posted - 2013.05.17 16:48:00 -
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From my experience, when people around me are too dumb to learn, it's because I am not smart enough to teach them. Just saying. |
SC-SAMCRO
Shadow Company HQ
2
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Posted - 2013.05.17 16:49:00 -
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Then you were / in a crap Corp.
If you can't play as a team in PC, you will fail. Hands down.
There are really good ones out there, you just need to find them. *cough* ShadowCompanyHQ.com *cough*
lol
But really, find ppl who are willing to work ( and listen ) together.
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Sponglyboy Squaredoo
Not Guilty EoN.
54
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Posted - 2013.05.17 16:50:00 -
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Fiasco Llana wrote:Sponglyboy Squaredoo wrote:Fiasco Llana wrote:I was in Beta-Max, but it was a real mess when I was in it. No offense to what's-her-face. But it was a terrible experience. Total chaos, it was when all the good members of betamax went to imperfects and I couldn't get in imperfects because Zitro hated me.
Was also in STB, which was my only good experience in a corp. But I got kicked out because of someone I won't name here.
There, for people who wanted to know. I guess you can save new berries the trouble by letting them know that Betamax isn't a good start... or finish. I wouldn't know if they are good now or not honestly. Never going back though. Spongly, how about right now?
Sorry, I won't be on until 3:00 EVEt & even than I have to handle a lot of things before jumping into pubs.
You can message me now so when I log on I don't forget |
Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
255
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Posted - 2013.05.17 16:51:00 -
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Talruum Tezztarozza wrote:From my experience, when people around me are too dumb to learn, it's because I am not smart enough to teach them. Just saying.
You're saying I should teach 5,000 players how to use teamwork? |
Sponglyboy Squaredoo
Not Guilty EoN.
54
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Posted - 2013.05.17 16:52:00 -
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Fiasco Llana wrote:Talruum Tezztarozza wrote:From my experience, when people around me are too dumb to learn, it's because I am not smart enough to teach them. Just saying. You're saying I should teach 5,000 players how to use teamwork?
Good luck |
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Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
255
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Posted - 2013.05.17 16:55:00 -
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Sponglyboy Squaredoo wrote:Fiasco Llana wrote:Talruum Tezztarozza wrote:From my experience, when people around me are too dumb to learn, it's because I am not smart enough to teach them. Just saying. You're saying I should teach 5,000 players how to use teamwork? Good luck
Thanks. But I sent you a message. It says "give me ALL the"
because I'm used to pressing X to bring up the keyboard -_- |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
4254
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Posted - 2013.05.17 17:00:00 -
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Maybe you have poor leadership skills...
Or just bad luck.
I am sure anyone with their head screwed on straight can learn to laser pointer things out to people.
Keep corp hopping maybe you will find your shoes in one of them is all I can say about it. |
Talruum Tezztarozza
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
124
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Posted - 2013.05.17 17:00:00 -
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Fiasco Llana wrote:Talruum Tezztarozza wrote:From my experience, when people around me are too dumb to learn, it's because I am not smart enough to teach them. Just saying. You're saying I should teach 5,000 players how to use teamwork? Well, because you said you "TRIED" to teach them but fail thus Dust players are hopeless case. I disagree.
This also apply to "leading" as well. If you can't lead someone, you are not smart enough to lead them. And yes leading stupid people need higher level of intelligent among other things.
EDIT: Oh IWS beat me to it |
Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
255
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Posted - 2013.05.17 17:03:00 -
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Talruum Tezztarozza wrote:Fiasco Llana wrote:Talruum Tezztarozza wrote:From my experience, when people around me are too dumb to learn, it's because I am not smart enough to teach them. Just saying. You're saying I should teach 5,000 players how to use teamwork? Well, because you said you "TRIED" to teach them but fail thus Dust players are hopeless case. I disagree. This also apply to "leading" as well. If you can't lead someone, you are not smart enough to lead them. And yes leading stupid people need higher level of intelligent among other things. EDIT: Oh IWS beat me to it
I never said anything about leading in a corp...
I'm not going to teach every squad, every team, HUNDREDS of players, how to play the game.
I'm a good leader. I would start my own corp of small squads and teach them everything I know if I thought that they would actually learn something. |
Skittles McDuckett
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
39
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Posted - 2013.05.17 17:05:00 -
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Man, it is all about your corp. My corp does a really good job with teamwork in squad. Keep looking, you will find the right corp. Also, find a corp that requires a mic. |
J Lav
Opus Arcana Orion Empire
71
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Posted - 2013.05.17 17:06:00 -
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I'm happy to say that your experience does not equal my own. Even good players make mistakes, and when you're in a game with a bunch of organized squads, remember that they are going to look out for eachother before you. I've been forcibly manhandled by my own team, by a squad, to use me as a meat shield for their own purposes. They're morons, and have made an enemy of me, but in Eve, you are rewarded for such ass-worthy behaviour.
To be fair, when there's a nanite injector right on top of you, but they're not picking you up, they're probably trying to, and game won't let them. When a body slides away from where they died, the heal box is somewhere else, and we're trying to find it.
There is a lot more teamwork in this game than any I've played. It works for you, or overwhelmingly against you. |
Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
255
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Posted - 2013.05.17 17:09:00 -
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J Lav wrote:I'm happy to say that your experience does not equal my own. Even good players make mistakes, and when you're in a game with a bunch of organized squads, remember that they are going to look out for eachother before you. I've been forcibly manhandled by my own team, by a squad, to use me as a meat shield for their own purposes. They're morons, and have made an enemy of me, but in Eve, you are rewarded for such ass-worthy behaviour.
To be fair, when there's a nanite injector right on top of you, but they're not picking you up, they're probably trying to, and game won't let them. When a body slides away from where they died, the heal box is somewhere else, and we're trying to find it.
There is a lot more teamwork in this game than any I've played. It works for you, or overwhelmingly against you.
Usually good players know red from blue... |
Talruum Tezztarozza
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
124
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Posted - 2013.05.17 17:16:00 -
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Fiasco Llana wrote:I never said anything about leading in a corp...
I'm not going to teach every squad, every team, HUNDREDS of players, how to play the game.
I'm a good leader. I would start my own corp of small squads and teach them everything I know if I thought that they would actually learn something.
I taught a guy how to fly a dropship, evasive maneuvers, etc. And he became a better pilot than I am.
You can't teach a new dog old tricks. I said notthing about leading a corp either. Just leading a squad in general or........ simply working with them.
If you can't working with someone, it's because you aren't smart enough to work with them. I hope you don't deny that it's more constructive than simply condemn other they are too dumb to work with you. Again, working with stupid people need more intelligent than working with smart people. |
jenza aranda
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1331
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Posted - 2013.05.17 17:19:00 -
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Sponglyboy Squaredoo wrote:Fiasco Llana wrote:I was in Beta-Max, but it was a real mess when I was in it. No offense to what's-her-face. But it was a terrible experience. Total chaos, it was when all the good members of betamax went to imperfects and I couldn't get in imperfects because Zitro hated me.
Was also in STB, which was my only good experience in a corp. But I got kicked out because of someone I won't name here.
There, for people who wanted to know. I guess you can save new berries the trouble by letting them know that Betamax isn't a good start... or finish. way to judge a corp on ancient history during a very turbulent time. BetaMax. has changed and grown greatly since those dark days. |
Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
255
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Posted - 2013.05.17 17:20:00 -
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Talruum Tezztarozza wrote:Fiasco Llana wrote:I never said anything about leading in a corp...
I'm not going to teach every squad, every team, HUNDREDS of players, how to play the game.
I'm a good leader. I would start my own corp of small squads and teach them everything I know if I thought that they would actually learn something.
I taught a guy how to fly a dropship, evasive maneuvers, etc. And he became a better pilot than I am.
You can't teach a new dog old tricks. I said notthing about leading a corp either. Just leading a squad in general or........ simply working with them. If you can't working with someone, it's because you aren't smart enough to work with them. I hope you don't deny that it's more constructive than simply condemn other they are too dumb to work with you. Again, working with stupid people need more intelligent than working with smart people.
Incompetence to obey minor squad orders is not the leader's fault under any circumstance. In real life Moral plays into effect. In Dust if you try and give them a charlie chaplin speech you will be met with laughter. Because I've tried. |
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Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
255
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Posted - 2013.05.17 17:22:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:Sponglyboy Squaredoo wrote:Fiasco Llana wrote:I was in Beta-Max, but it was a real mess when I was in it. No offense to what's-her-face. But it was a terrible experience. Total chaos, it was when all the good members of betamax went to imperfects and I couldn't get in imperfects because Zitro hated me.
Was also in STB, which was my only good experience in a corp. But I got kicked out because of someone I won't name here.
There, for people who wanted to know. I guess you can save new berries the trouble by letting them know that Betamax isn't a good start... or finish. way to judge a corp on ancient history during a very turbulent time. BetaMax. has changed and grown greatly since those dark days.
I would hope so Jenza. I wanted to help you during that time but multiple people said it wasn't my place. So I left. I don't feel comfortable as a grunt. I guess it's why Zitro, Omni zitro, didn't like me. They felt I was trying to nudge into their position I guess? I don't know. Past is the past. |
Vavilia Lysenko
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.05.17 17:27:00 -
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Fiasco Llana wrote:Every single death I've had on this game was because my team-mates are blind.
Every Death I've had in this game is because of my own f'kin stupidity, or because the other Merc. was better. Am I doing it wrong? |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
4254
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Posted - 2013.05.17 17:32:00 -
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Vavilia Lysenko wrote:Fiasco Llana wrote:Every single death I've had on this game was because my team-mates are blind. Every Death I've had in this game is because of my own f'kin stupidity, or because the other Merc. was better. Am I doing it wrong?
Truth. |
Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
255
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Posted - 2013.05.17 17:33:00 -
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Vavilia Lysenko wrote:Fiasco Llana wrote:Every single death I've had on this game was because my team-mates are blind. Every Death I've had in this game is because of my own f'kin stupidity, or because the other Merc. was better. Am I doing it wrong?
I rarely die. I don't fight when I know I can't win. I'm a designated marksman, not a CQC specialist. I cover my squad at medium range just behind my squad-mates. My job is to make sure they make it from point A to point B with as little enemy resistance as possible.
My deaths happen when an enemy runs straight past my squadmates who literally don't shoot a single bullet at him as I'm left defenseless with a scrabler pistol.
No, it's not my fault. |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
111
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Posted - 2013.05.17 17:36:00 -
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I prefer not getting revived. GOOD MD as I've seen in many fps games are few and far between. I Remember getting by heavy fire as a squad raided the objective. They had brought in a tank, and having been told as little boys by their parents to "ignore the bullies, and they will go away" and that excatly what they did. except the tank didn't go away.
Well after seeing that I wanted to spawn into my anti HAV suit. but i couldn't because that medic kept reviving me! I wanted to scream at him to "stop! can't you see I keep dying!? is was terrible.. it's like people lost their damn sense.
One assualt after I think ran his ammo dry, tried melee the tank! melee! like if some how his mmorpg gods had granted him the masamune! That's when I knew, that I wasn't in dust no more. this was the twilight zone. So I did what I had to do. I suicide.
popped up in mcc and chilled. |
Talruum Tezztarozza
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
125
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Posted - 2013.05.17 17:37:00 -
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Fiasco Llana wrote:Incompetence to obey minor squad orders is not the leader's fault under any circumstance. In real life Moral plays into effect. In Dust if you try and give them a charlie chaplin speech you will be met with laughter. Because I've tried. Good leader know how to make other people do what they want. If you think it's not your fault under any circumstance, I'm sorry. I can't help you. I'm not smart enough to teach you that either. It's not like you are too dumb to learn anything ok?
Good luck |
Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
255
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Posted - 2013.05.17 17:40:00 -
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Talruum Tezztarozza wrote:Fiasco Llana wrote:Incompetence to obey minor squad orders is not the leader's fault under any circumstance. In real life Moral plays into effect. In Dust if you try and give them a charlie chaplin speech you will be met with laughter. Because I've tried. Good leader know how to make other people do what they want. If you think it's not your fault under any circumstance, I'm sorry. I can't help you. I'm not smart enough to teach you that either. It's not like you are too dumb to learn anything ok? Good luck
As I said, moral is a factor in Dust that is very important, but there is none of. Like I said, charlie chaplin speeches don't work on a videogame. |
ZiwZih
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
146
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Posted - 2013.05.17 17:42:00 -
[38] - Quote
Fiasco Llana wrote:[(...) as I'm left defenseless with a scrabler pistol.
Haven't seen good old get good for a while. Let's fill up the quota. |
Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
255
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Posted - 2013.05.17 17:48:00 -
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ZiwZih wrote:Fiasco Llana wrote:[(...) as I'm left defenseless with a scrabler pistol. Haven't seen good old get good for a while. Let's fill up the quota.
What an ignorant statement.
Full proto-gear with a Tac rifle and mouse, vs. militia gear with a militia scrambler pistol.
Yeah "get good" sure. |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
111
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Posted - 2013.05.17 17:49:00 -
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I've had a good run now. But hearing this.. sends shivers down my spine of how it was before. Idiots to the left and right of me. But It was my fault cause i didn't realize that THEY were suppose to die. Yes, like the deer and quail. They die so others might live. I was trying to help them, but in so I was going against nature.
And I watched.. oh how I watched them call lavs and stay underneath cause of course they need to cushon the lavs fall.
Ive seen them take off in them. ZOOMING towards objectives. The new heroes.. for 2 seconds before they flip the lav, and have to walk.
I've seen things boys and girls.. that will make your eyes bleed. And then one day one guy who was 0/11. sent me a mail, while game was still going. "THIS GAME IS AWESOME! WANT TO JOIN MY CORP?"
I teared. yes I think I teared. *it ok. its all behind us. people are smart now* I know. I know. |
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Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
255
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Posted - 2013.05.17 17:50:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:I've had a good run now. But hearing this.. sends shivers down my spine of how it was before. Idiots to the left and right of me. But It was my fault cause i didn't realize that THEY were suppose to die. Yes, like the deer and quail. They die so others might live. I was trying to help them, but in so I was going against nature.
And I watched.. oh how I watched them call lavs and stay underneath cause of course they need to cushon the lavs fall.
Ive seen them take off in them. ZOOMING towards objectives. The new heroes.. for 2 seconds before they flip the lav, and have to walk.
I've seen things boys and girls.. that will make your eyes bleed. And then one day one guy who was 0/11. sent me a mail, while game was still going. "THIS GAME IS AWESOME! WANT TO JOIN MY CORP?"
I teared. yes I think I teared. *it ok. its all behind us. people are smart now* I know. I know.
This brother feels my pain... |
Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
255
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Posted - 2013.05.17 21:00:00 -
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http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g468/chicka1337/Photoon2013-05-17at1552_zpse4a142e4.jpg
Bad quality I know. But this is getting so fu**ing stupid.
59 deaths? REALLY?
I only got 2 kills cause i was in the game for 10 seconds before it ended but this is just getting pathetic.
Lost 89 games now in a row. |
Silent Defiance
Lone Hound of Death
0
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Posted - 2013.05.17 21:34:00 -
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All to familiar, which is why I am currently in my own corp of one. Don't get me wrong, not against corps, just haven't found the right one. Been cursed at for not being "hardcore"... I'm a casual player here for fun. Other corps, I just never seen them online, or would all rarely squad up, and when they did it was just everyone for themselves. I can do that on my own.
I certainly am not a force to be reckoned with on the field, but I do my best to learn new tactics. Just running around shooting anything that moves is boring, exclude ambush, so I do my own objectives. I have now focused on damage done vs damage received rather than kills vs deaths. I'm making decent isk and sp and having fun. I probably still squad up min 50% of time, and have played with cool people, and a lot... well, you know. C'est la vie. |
Orion Decline
Reckoners
33
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Posted - 2013.05.17 21:37:00 -
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If the "major" Corps suck at teamwork and you can't make friends there, maybe try one who's far from a major Corp, and just playing for fun?
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=76293&find=unread
I see plenty of people willing to work together when I play.
I sometimes run a Scout with a Shotgun and a Repair tool, and spend all my time with the Repair Tool out, only switching to Shotgun when it looks like someone's close enough for it to be useful. Heavies and Logis and teamwork all over! |
Harkon Vysarii
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
294
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Posted - 2013.05.18 00:18:00 -
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Yeah I understand that but with the group of players Im with I find that most of them only play this game so that they can have fun with people covering their asses.
Its great to squad up with some of the Dead Sixers and know that they'd take a bullet for me.....no kidding If I see a buddy hacking an objective and being sniped at Ill stand infront of him while he hacks and take the bullets. |
FarVision1
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2013.05.18 00:51:00 -
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Fiasco Llana wrote:Sponglyboy Squaredoo wrote:1.Simply the people you are playing with.
2.I would like to know what corps you're referring to How do I get the same type of people over 79 games in a row? 79 losses in a row. 79. Seventy-Nine.
There are ways you can train public match players. When you are in the Lobby or In-game, hit Select and then Team. You have to -manually- join a squad (or start your own). Seeing a few Green blips does make people start to group together and help each other. Follow your team around. Let them know that there are actually smart players in pub matches. This is a trainable opportunity. I started throwing down Drop nodes around in secret places and we really started working together. Other non Squad players starting following the 'guys that knew what they were doing'. Voice coms online by default in Squad. Start using callouts.
It's all trainable. People will follow a leader. |
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