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Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.17 16:23:00 -
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Okay yes I posted this the other day, but I hope to now go into further detail about how much Dust sucks because of one thing.
Lack of teamwork.
Been playing Dust off and on since the early beta days. And I've noticed that people play this game exactly like CoD or Battlefield. Run and gun and don't help ANYONE unless it directly benefits you. I realize that's why I hate this game.
"Get a corp" : Corps don't help, I've been in them. And every time I try to take the role of squad leader and do some real PTFO'ing, people bi*** at me because I sound bossy. And most corps just mass recruit instead of actually paying any attention to how good a player is or how they act, or if they listen. Happened with 3 of the major corps i was in.
Nanohives, nanoinjectors, repair tools, drop uplinks: Nobody uses them. Every once in a while I might see a nanohive, but that's it. When I die it says "TRIAGE UNIT DETECTED IN THE VICINITY" standing on top of my body shooting at a sniper across the map with a militia SMG. This happens ALL the time, in every game mode. A triage unit will be one foot away and not do anything. I haven't even seen anyone use a drop uplink yet. Not since I was in corp battles. Never seen anyone use a repair tool.
General idiocy: Oh my goodness, the amount of sheer stupidity I see in this game is off the charts. I will be pinned down behind a rock with two guys coming at me, my ENTIRE team will be not even 20 yards away, and they pay no attention to the enemy. How blind or stupid do you have to be to not see someone ONE FOOT in front of you? Even with me screaming into the microphone "Pinned down, need covering fire." nobody pays any attention. See a tank? "Oh I better shoot at it with my scrambler pistol. That's sure to kill it!" ...What?
Microphones: Nobody uses them except for me. And when they do use them, it's usually a dog barking, a baby screaming, or a 10 year old "MOOOOOOOOOM, GET ME A GRILLED CHEEEEEESE" followed by them smacking their lips like a stoned horse that hasn't had grass for a week. Oh and of course the random noise generators which produce ear curdling loud noises into your eardrums.
Bad squad leaders: These are the worst. The ones that don't use any squad commands, EVER. Oh wait, that's all of them. Or if they do happen to set a defend order, they do it on themselves then instantly die. or they set it on themselves and charge towards a tank.
For these reasons I have gone lone wolf and have decided to help nobody but myself, if you won't help me, I won't help you. I'm tired of carrying teams single handed. It's gotten so bad I don't even go for objectives anymore. I just counter-snipe. I've never had an even remotely smart squad in a PUB. Never.
There should be some kind of filter for games. One that says "Smart people who can aim, get kills, and use team-work" and the other that says "For 99.9% of Dust players that can't aim for sh*t, never use teamwork, and go 0/53 every game."
All I'm asking for is for ONE group of people to show me there is hope that I can find smart people on this game. Ones that use mics, teamwork, skill, and nanoinjectors.
"There seems to be no sign of intelligent life on this planet" |
Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
254
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Posted - 2013.05.17 16:35:00 -
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Sponglyboy Squaredoo wrote:1.Simply the people you are playing with.
2.I would like to know what corps you're referring to
How do I get the same type of people over 79 games in a row? 79 losses in a row. 79.
Seventy-Nine.
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Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
255
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Posted - 2013.05.17 16:39:00 -
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I was in Beta-Max, but it was a real mess when I was in it. No offense to what's-her-face. But it was a terrible experience. Total chaos, it was when all the good members of betamax went to imperfects and I couldn't get in imperfects because Zitro hated me.
Was also in STB, which was my only good experience in a corp. But I got kicked out because of someone I won't name here.
There, for people who wanted to know. |
Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
255
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Posted - 2013.05.17 16:43:00 -
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Sponglyboy Squaredoo wrote:Fiasco Llana wrote:Sponglyboy Squaredoo wrote:1.Simply the people you are playing with.
2.I would like to know what corps you're referring to How do I get the same type of people over 79 games in a row? 79 losses in a row. 79. Seventy-Nine. Don't ever rely on blue berries. You don't have to play the game long to know that, lone wolfing won't do you any better.
I'm starting to go lone wolf because it's futile to try with the mass amounts of dumb players.
I hate to keep beating a dead stoned horse, but Dust players (at least the ones i get on my team every f***ing game) are totally moronic. There's no choice but to play lone wolf. |
Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
255
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Posted - 2013.05.17 16:45:00 -
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Sponglyboy Squaredoo wrote:Fiasco Llana wrote:I was in Beta-Max, but it was a real mess when I was in it. No offense to what's-her-face. But it was a terrible experience. Total chaos, it was when all the good members of betamax went to imperfects and I couldn't get in imperfects because Zitro hated me.
Was also in STB, which was my only good experience in a corp. But I got kicked out because of someone I won't name here.
There, for people who wanted to know. I guess you can save new berries the trouble by letting them know that Betamax isn't a good start... or finish.
I wouldn't know if they are good now or not honestly. Never going back though. |
Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
255
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Posted - 2013.05.17 16:51:00 -
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Talruum Tezztarozza wrote:From my experience, when people around me are too dumb to learn, it's because I am not smart enough to teach them. Just saying.
You're saying I should teach 5,000 players how to use teamwork? |
Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
255
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Posted - 2013.05.17 16:55:00 -
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Sponglyboy Squaredoo wrote:Fiasco Llana wrote:Talruum Tezztarozza wrote:From my experience, when people around me are too dumb to learn, it's because I am not smart enough to teach them. Just saying. You're saying I should teach 5,000 players how to use teamwork? Good luck
Thanks. But I sent you a message. It says "give me ALL the"
because I'm used to pressing X to bring up the keyboard -_- |
Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
255
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Posted - 2013.05.17 17:03:00 -
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Talruum Tezztarozza wrote:Fiasco Llana wrote:Talruum Tezztarozza wrote:From my experience, when people around me are too dumb to learn, it's because I am not smart enough to teach them. Just saying. You're saying I should teach 5,000 players how to use teamwork? Well, because you said you "TRIED" to teach them but fail thus Dust players are hopeless case. I disagree. This also apply to "leading" as well. If you can't lead someone, you are not smart enough to lead them. And yes leading stupid people need higher level of intelligent among other things. EDIT: Oh IWS beat me to it
I never said anything about leading in a corp...
I'm not going to teach every squad, every team, HUNDREDS of players, how to play the game.
I'm a good leader. I would start my own corp of small squads and teach them everything I know if I thought that they would actually learn something. |
Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
255
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Posted - 2013.05.17 17:09:00 -
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J Lav wrote:I'm happy to say that your experience does not equal my own. Even good players make mistakes, and when you're in a game with a bunch of organized squads, remember that they are going to look out for eachother before you. I've been forcibly manhandled by my own team, by a squad, to use me as a meat shield for their own purposes. They're morons, and have made an enemy of me, but in Eve, you are rewarded for such ass-worthy behaviour.
To be fair, when there's a nanite injector right on top of you, but they're not picking you up, they're probably trying to, and game won't let them. When a body slides away from where they died, the heal box is somewhere else, and we're trying to find it.
There is a lot more teamwork in this game than any I've played. It works for you, or overwhelmingly against you.
Usually good players know red from blue... |
Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
255
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Posted - 2013.05.17 17:20:00 -
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Talruum Tezztarozza wrote:Fiasco Llana wrote:I never said anything about leading in a corp...
I'm not going to teach every squad, every team, HUNDREDS of players, how to play the game.
I'm a good leader. I would start my own corp of small squads and teach them everything I know if I thought that they would actually learn something.
I taught a guy how to fly a dropship, evasive maneuvers, etc. And he became a better pilot than I am.
You can't teach a new dog old tricks. I said notthing about leading a corp either. Just leading a squad in general or........ simply working with them. If you can't working with someone, it's because you aren't smart enough to work with them. I hope you don't deny that it's more constructive than simply condemn other they are too dumb to work with you. Again, working with stupid people need more intelligent than working with smart people.
Incompetence to obey minor squad orders is not the leader's fault under any circumstance. In real life Moral plays into effect. In Dust if you try and give them a charlie chaplin speech you will be met with laughter. Because I've tried. |
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Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
255
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Posted - 2013.05.17 17:22:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:Sponglyboy Squaredoo wrote:Fiasco Llana wrote:I was in Beta-Max, but it was a real mess when I was in it. No offense to what's-her-face. But it was a terrible experience. Total chaos, it was when all the good members of betamax went to imperfects and I couldn't get in imperfects because Zitro hated me.
Was also in STB, which was my only good experience in a corp. But I got kicked out because of someone I won't name here.
There, for people who wanted to know. I guess you can save new berries the trouble by letting them know that Betamax isn't a good start... or finish. way to judge a corp on ancient history during a very turbulent time. BetaMax. has changed and grown greatly since those dark days.
I would hope so Jenza. I wanted to help you during that time but multiple people said it wasn't my place. So I left. I don't feel comfortable as a grunt. I guess it's why Zitro, Omni zitro, didn't like me. They felt I was trying to nudge into their position I guess? I don't know. Past is the past. |
Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
255
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Posted - 2013.05.17 17:33:00 -
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Vavilia Lysenko wrote:Fiasco Llana wrote:Every single death I've had on this game was because my team-mates are blind. Every Death I've had in this game is because of my own f'kin stupidity, or because the other Merc. was better. Am I doing it wrong?
I rarely die. I don't fight when I know I can't win. I'm a designated marksman, not a CQC specialist. I cover my squad at medium range just behind my squad-mates. My job is to make sure they make it from point A to point B with as little enemy resistance as possible.
My deaths happen when an enemy runs straight past my squadmates who literally don't shoot a single bullet at him as I'm left defenseless with a scrabler pistol.
No, it's not my fault. |
Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
255
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Posted - 2013.05.17 17:40:00 -
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Talruum Tezztarozza wrote:Fiasco Llana wrote:Incompetence to obey minor squad orders is not the leader's fault under any circumstance. In real life Moral plays into effect. In Dust if you try and give them a charlie chaplin speech you will be met with laughter. Because I've tried. Good leader know how to make other people do what they want. If you think it's not your fault under any circumstance, I'm sorry. I can't help you. I'm not smart enough to teach you that either. It's not like you are too dumb to learn anything ok? Good luck
As I said, moral is a factor in Dust that is very important, but there is none of. Like I said, charlie chaplin speeches don't work on a videogame. |
Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
255
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Posted - 2013.05.17 17:48:00 -
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ZiwZih wrote:Fiasco Llana wrote:[(...) as I'm left defenseless with a scrabler pistol. Haven't seen good old get good for a while. Let's fill up the quota.
What an ignorant statement.
Full proto-gear with a Tac rifle and mouse, vs. militia gear with a militia scrambler pistol.
Yeah "get good" sure. |
Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
255
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Posted - 2013.05.17 17:50:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:I've had a good run now. But hearing this.. sends shivers down my spine of how it was before. Idiots to the left and right of me. But It was my fault cause i didn't realize that THEY were suppose to die. Yes, like the deer and quail. They die so others might live. I was trying to help them, but in so I was going against nature.
And I watched.. oh how I watched them call lavs and stay underneath cause of course they need to cushon the lavs fall.
Ive seen them take off in them. ZOOMING towards objectives. The new heroes.. for 2 seconds before they flip the lav, and have to walk.
I've seen things boys and girls.. that will make your eyes bleed. And then one day one guy who was 0/11. sent me a mail, while game was still going. "THIS GAME IS AWESOME! WANT TO JOIN MY CORP?"
I teared. yes I think I teared. *it ok. its all behind us. people are smart now* I know. I know.
This brother feels my pain... |
Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
255
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Posted - 2013.05.17 21:00:00 -
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http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g468/chicka1337/Photoon2013-05-17at1552_zpse4a142e4.jpg
Bad quality I know. But this is getting so fu**ing stupid.
59 deaths? REALLY?
I only got 2 kills cause i was in the game for 10 seconds before it ended but this is just getting pathetic.
Lost 89 games now in a row. |
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