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Aesiron Kor-Azor
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.17 06:55:00 -
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That thing is firing plasma bullets which are at least 1-2 million 'c. So why the hell doesn't it overheat like the scrambler rifle??!! |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
3080
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Posted - 2013.05.17 06:56:00 -
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Shhh, the AR takes the most skill to use |
crazy space 1
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
1174
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Posted - 2013.05.17 06:59:00 -
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IF CCP was smart they would remove ammo alltogether from laser weapons, make them over heat only weapons, then the advantage of the AR would be clear. As to why it wouldn't overheat.
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Jan Solar
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.05.17 06:59:00 -
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because gallente are better engineers and more advanced than amarr. |
XeroTheBigBoss
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
306
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Posted - 2013.05.17 06:59:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:That thing is firing plasma bullets which are at least 1-2 million 'c. So why the hell doesn't it overheat like the scrambler rifle??!!
Is this a real question? Have you ever shot a gun? Did it over heat and burn your hand after you were done with it? |
Harkon Vysarii
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
293
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Posted - 2013.05.17 07:02:00 -
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Jan Solar wrote:because gallente are better engineers and more advanced than amarr.
Uhhhhhhh....... not sure if trolling those Gallente scumbags or serious......
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Stef Aile
Amplitude. Reverberation Project
0
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Posted - 2013.05.17 07:06:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:That thing is firing plasma bullets which are at least 1-2 million 'c. So why the hell doesn't it overheat like the scrambler rifle??!! Is this a real question? Have you ever shot a gun? Did it over heat and burn your hand after you were done with it? Is this a real response? Have you ever shot a plasma gun? If so, where, because I want one. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
423
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Posted - 2013.05.17 07:06:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:That thing is firing plasma bullets which are at least 1-2 million 'c. So why the hell doesn't it overheat like the scrambler rifle??!! Is this a real question? Have you ever shot a gun? Did it over heat and burn your hand after you were done with it? there is clearly a visual for it, it does turn red. but hey it is a bullet so water cooled barrel designed to fire the max clip size without overheating and the reload has to with its over heating. |
GLiMPSE X
Elite Gamers Militia
20
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Posted - 2013.05.17 07:07:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:That thing is firing plasma bullets which are at least 1-2 million 'c. So why the hell doesn't it overheat like the scrambler rifle??!! Is this a real question? Have you ever shot a gun? Did it over heat and burn your hand after you were done with it?
Is this a real answer? Have you ever shot a gun that shoots plasma? C'mon now. |
Stef Aile
Amplitude. Reverberation Project
0
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Posted - 2013.05.17 07:08:00 -
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GLiMPSE X wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:That thing is firing plasma bullets which are at least 1-2 million 'c. So why the hell doesn't it overheat like the scrambler rifle??!! Is this a real question? Have you ever shot a gun? Did it over heat and burn your hand after you were done with it? Is this a real answer? Have you ever shot a gun that shoots plasma? C'mon now. Ninja'd you bro. |
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VLIGHT5
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
114
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Posted - 2013.05.17 07:09:00 -
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Because CCP's favorite weapon is the Assault Rifle |
Knightshade Belladonna
WH0 G1VSA FL0CK GLOCKS
289
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Posted - 2013.05.17 07:40:00 -
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Because it holds between 48-72 ammo and takes a few seconds to reload? why does the submaching gun not overheat, why does the pistol not overheat, why does my grenade not overheat |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
236
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Posted - 2013.05.17 08:01:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Because it holds between 48-72 ammo and takes a few seconds to reload? why does the submaching gun not overheat, why does the pistol not overheat, why does my grenade not overheat
SCR has to be reloaded too |
Knightshade Belladonna
WH0 G1VSA FL0CK GLOCKS
290
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Posted - 2013.05.17 08:04:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Because it holds between 48-72 ammo and takes a few seconds to reload? why does the submaching gun not overheat, why does the pistol not overheat, why does my grenade not overheat SCR has to be reloaded too
ok take that into thought and then compare damage output and ammo type |
Jaron Pollard
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
45
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Posted - 2013.05.17 08:09:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:That thing is firing plasma bullets which are at least 1-2 million 'c. So why the hell doesn't it overheat like the scrambler rifle??!!
I'm afraid you fail to grasp the concept of a hybrid weapon. It is an energy/projectile hybrid, and the energy is in the round itself, not the weapon firing it, except in the case of blasters, which the AR is not, but even then the energy itself goes through a cyclotron in the weapon and maintained in a magnetic field for directed fire.. It's more of a cyclic rail weapon that fires the round itself with the plasma inside it, and the plasma expands on impact.
I imagine the SR overheats because it's a laser weapon, and doesn't take ammunition, therefore in order for it to not be OP, it needs a brief cooldown period that reflects a reload.
EDIT: After checking out the SR, I agree that if it is an overheating laser weapon, than ammunition should not be a factor. But if it is using an energy source that is depletable, than it would have to be changed out and the weapon would still overheat. Otherwise, it would have to be a disposable weapon, like the plasma weapons in halo, to be discarded once the power source is drained. |
Panther Alpha
WarRavens
218
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Posted - 2013.05.17 08:13:00 -
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Range is no where near a standard rifle range, accuracy is random, and only work 90% effectively when aiming trough the sights. Most skills seems to be useless, and only makes the weapon worst and not better.
And you want to nerf the AR even more, because people still killing you with it ?
You don't want to know what i think about people like you.... and i don't want to get banned from the forums for another month. |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
236
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Posted - 2013.05.17 08:23:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Because it holds between 48-72 ammo and takes a few seconds to reload? why does the submaching gun not overheat, why does the pistol not overheat, why does my grenade not overheat SCR has to be reloaded too ok take that into thought and then compare damage output and ammo type your argument is flawed because ARs have higher average DPS too |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
502
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Posted - 2013.05.17 08:23:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:That thing is firing plasma bullets which are at least 1-2 million 'c. So why the hell doesn't it overheat like the scrambler rifle??!! Is this a real question? Have you ever shot a gun? Did it over heat and burn your hand after you were done with it?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M4_carbine
The US Navy uses M4A1s for Special Operations and by vehicle crews.
Some features of the M4 and M4A1 compared to a full-length M16-series rifle include:
Compact size Shortened barrel 14.5 in (370 mm), which includes the shorter carbine gas system. Telescoping buttstock
However, there have been some criticisms of the carbine, such as lower muzzle velocities and louder report due to the shorter barrel, additional stress on parts because of the shorter gas system, and a tendency to overheat faster than the M16A2. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
1254
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Posted - 2013.05.17 08:24:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Shhh, the AR takes the most skill to use
it does |
Jaron Pollard
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
45
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Posted - 2013.05.17 08:27:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Because it holds between 48-72 ammo and takes a few seconds to reload? why does the submaching gun not overheat, why does the pistol not overheat, why does my grenade not overheat SCR has to be reloaded too ok take that into thought and then compare damage output and ammo type your argument is flawed because ARs have higher average DPS too just a small lesson for you: GEK-38 Assault Rifle Max Range: 68m Optimal Range: 1 - 40m CRD-9 Assault Scrambler Rifle Max Range: 73m Optimal Range: 1 - 29m GLU-5 Tactical Assault Rifle Max Range: 95m Optimal Range: 1 - 62m CRW-04 Scrambler Rifle Max Range: 83m Optimal Range: 1 - 45m Overall DPS Duvolle AR: 467.5 Carthum AS: 465.9 DPS vs Shields Duvolle AR: 514.3 Carthum AS: 559.1 DPS vs Armor Duvolle AR: 420.8 Carthum AS: 372.7 in short: ARs have higher range & higher dps. dont waste your SP on SCR, the minor advantage against shields is not worth it.
Please also provide that alpha damage numbers. |
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Knightshade Belladonna
WH0 G1VSA FL0CK GLOCKS
291
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Posted - 2013.05.17 08:27:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Because it holds between 48-72 ammo and takes a few seconds to reload? why does the submaching gun not overheat, why does the pistol not overheat, why does my grenade not overheat SCR has to be reloaded too ok take that into thought and then compare damage output and ammo type your argument is flawed because ARs have higher average DPS too just a small lesson for you: GEK-38 Assault Rifle Max Range: 68m Optimal Range: 1 - 40m CRD-9 Assault Scrambler Rifle Max Range: 73m Optimal Range: 1 - 29m GLU-5 Tactical Assault Rifle Max Range: 95m Optimal Range: 1 - 62m CRW-04 Scrambler Rifle Max Range: 83m Optimal Range: 1 - 45m Overall DPS Duvolle AR: 467.5 Carthum AS: 465.9 DPS vs Shields Duvolle AR: 514.3 Carthum AS: 559.1 DPS vs Armor Duvolle AR: 420.8 Carthum AS: 372.7 in short: ARs have higher range & higher dps. dont waste your SP on SCR, the minor advantage against shields is not worth it.
heres a small lesson for you, your mom enjoyed the D. now, go post something real and not just look for comments to counter.
lol, ok I see you did change the post and put in some some stats.. I take my comment back if I could :p |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
237
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Posted - 2013.05.17 08:28:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: However, there have been some criticisms of the carbine, such as lower muzzle velocities and louder report due to the shorter barrel, additional stress on parts because of the shorter gas system, and a tendency to overheat faster than the M16A2.
the overheating is not that severe on the m14 like is in Dust. the m14 will not explode in your face, the riffled barrels will just overheat, crystalize and the accuracy will go down significantly. you should not touch the barrel though :)
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Panther Alpha
WarRavens
218
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Posted - 2013.05.17 08:28:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:That thing is firing plasma bullets which are at least 1-2 million 'c. So why the hell doesn't it overheat like the scrambler rifle??!! Is this a real question? Have you ever shot a gun? Did it over heat and burn your hand after you were done with it? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M4_carbineThe US Navy uses M4A1s for Special Operations and by vehicle crews. Some features of the M4 and M4A1 compared to a full-length M16-series rifle include: Compact size Shortened barrel 14.5 in (370 mm), which includes the shorter carbine gas system. Telescoping buttstock However, there have been some criticisms of the carbine, such as lower muzzle velocities and louder report due to the shorter barrel, additional stress on parts because of the shorter gas system, and a tendency to overheat faster than the M16A2.
Do you even know how a real gun overheats, and what it does to the weapon ? come on, google that to Einstein |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
237
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Posted - 2013.05.17 08:29:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:
heres a small lesson for you, your mom enjoyed the D. now, go post something real and not just look for comments to counter.
obvious denial is obvious. I will enjoy your butthurt and tears when the nerfhammer hits the ARs |
Knightshade Belladonna
WH0 G1VSA FL0CK GLOCKS
291
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Posted - 2013.05.17 08:33:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:
heres a small lesson for you, your mom enjoyed the D. now, go post something real and not just look for comments to counter.
obvious denial is obvious. I will enjoy your butthurt and tears when the nerfhammer hits the ARs
it really couldn't hit it any harder, but when it does i'll be ready.. just as I have been since closed beta.. there will always be tears from those who hate it, and tears from those who use it when the haters get thier way.. ( ironsights, horrible spray) but I will continue to use mine just as I have always done. |
Jaron Pollard
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
46
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Posted - 2013.05.17 08:40:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:
heres a small lesson for you, your mom enjoyed the D. now, go post something real and not just look for comments to counter.
obvious denial is obvious. I will enjoy your butthurt and tears when the nerfhammer hits the ARs it really couldn't hit it any harder, but when it does i'll be ready.. just as I have been since closed beta.. there will always be tears from those who hate it, and tears from those who use it when the haters get thier way.. ( ironsights, horrible spray) but I will continue to use mine just as I have always done.
Every AR nerf in every game is followed by someone still complaining about it who wants to use a more specialised weapon with it's own special drawbacks, but still expect it to uber-pwn everything no matter what because it's their choice. People need to stop expecting the game to be shaped just for their expectations at the expense of everybody else who uses these weapons well without anything to complain about. There are a few issues with a few weapons, but the AR is not one of them. The TAR maybe, but the AR as is is fine. |
Panther Alpha
WarRavens
218
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Posted - 2013.05.17 08:41:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:
heres a small lesson for you, your mom enjoyed the D. now, go post something real and not just look for comments to counter.
obvious denial is obvious. I will enjoy your butthurt and tears when the nerfhammer hits the ARs it really couldn't hit it any harder, but when it does i'll be ready.. just as I have been since closed beta.. there will always be tears from those who hate it, and tears from those who use it when the haters get thier way.. ( ironsights, horrible spray) but I will continue to use mine just as I have always done.
The way this is going... we going to have to use the AR as a melee weapon..and even then, they probably going to try nerfing that too. |
Elrick Mercer
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
29
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Posted - 2013.05.17 08:50:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:That thing is firing plasma bullets which are at least 1-2 million 'c. So why the hell doesn't it overheat like the scrambler rifle??!! Is this a real question? Have you ever shot a gun? Did it over heat and burn your hand after you were done with it? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M4_carbineThe US Navy uses M4A1s for Special Operations and by vehicle crews. Some features of the M4 and M4A1 compared to a full-length M16-series rifle include: Compact size Shortened barrel 14.5 in (370 mm), which includes the shorter carbine gas system. Telescoping buttstock However, there have been some criticisms of the carbine, such as lower muzzle velocities and louder report due to the shorter barrel, additional stress on parts because of the shorter gas system, and a tendency to overheat faster than the M16A2.
Okay in order for an the m4 or the m16 to overheat you would need a drum containing well over 100 rounds to even get to the point where you would have to swap a barrel out. In my 5 years as a rifleman I have never had my m4 over heat on me even after firing a full 30 round mag.
Also given the fact that these are supposedly much more advanced weapons that already come across as gimped compared to what we fire today on range alone you shouldn't use real world weaponry to compare to fictional weaponry in a video game. |
J'Hiera
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2013.05.17 08:56:00 -
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It does take a lot of heat. But the heat sink at the tip under the barrel takes it all.You notice it glow when you reload after emptying an entire clip.
I'm sure the Gallente put some nanite repair paste fuel bay in there to cool it off every time a shot is fired :P |
YoUnGcUz
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
71
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Posted - 2013.05.17 09:02:00 -
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The Balac and Krin assault rifles both overheat |
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Panther Alpha
WarRavens
219
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Posted - 2013.05.17 09:07:00 -
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nm |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
239
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Posted - 2013.05.17 09:10:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote: The way this is going... we going to have to use the AR as a melee weapon..and even then, they probably going to try nerfing that too.
the breach was slightly overnerfed and the TAR was overbuffed in exchange a build later. your point?
it is fact that: -the TAR beats the LR at LR optimal range but the LR is supposed to be king at its this ranges. -the TAR beats the regular AR at medium to close range (the irony is strong in this one) but the TAR was never supposed to be better than the regular AR at its domain, in short TAR is definately too good. -the AR has more optimal range than SCR and deals more dps on average.
I also find it really amusing that people claim that AR recoil and ADS is bad. you want too see bad recoil? get the SMG. you want to see really bad ADS, check out the LR. also the TARs hipfire hits up to 40m reliable and the ADS kick is almost cosmetical, it always hits where you aim with it.
you can be pretty sure that there will be a nerf but not because people "cry" on the forum. CCP is collecting & reviewing statistics about the matches. everyone uses the TAR because it is the best weapon out there and the DEVs know this and are most likely working on a solution already. the DEVs would know about it even if there would be no forum/place to "cry" about, the DEVs are not stupid. |
Panther Alpha
WarRavens
219
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Posted - 2013.05.17 09:13:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Panther Alpha wrote: The way this is going... we going to have to use the AR as a melee weapon..and even then, they probably going to try nerfing that too.
the breach was slightly overnerfed and the TAR was overbuffed in exchange a build later. your point? it is fact that: -the TAR beats the LR at LR optimal range but the LR is supposed to be king at its this ranges. -the TAR beats the regular AR at medium to close range (the irony is strong in this one) but the TAR was never supposed to be better than the regular AR at its domain, in short TAR is definately too good. -the AR has more optimal range than SCR and deals more dps on average. I also find it really amusing that people claim that AR recoil and ADS is bad. you want too see bad recoil? get the SMG. you want to see really bad ADS, check out the LR. also the TARs hipfire hits up to 40m reliable and the ADS kick is almost cosmetical, it always hits where you aim with it. you can be pretty sure that there will be a nerf but not because people "cry" on the forum. CCP is collecting & reviewing statistics about the matches. everyone uses the TAR because it is the best weapon out there and the DEVs know this and are most likely working on a solution already.
I thought we was talking about the Assault Rifle... not the Tactical Assault Rifle ... which by the way, i don't use. |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
239
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Posted - 2013.05.17 09:20:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:I thought we was talking about the Assault Rifle... not the Tactical Assault Rifle ... which by the way, i don't use. the tactical assault rifle is also an assault rifle.
and regarding AR vs SCR only, well you dont have to be a genius to realize that ARs do overall more dps, still have more optimal range and dont overheat. why should someone waste SP for the SCR when you can get the AR which is overall better? |
Panther Alpha
WarRavens
219
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Posted - 2013.05.17 09:26:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:[quote=Jack McReady]I thought we was talking about the Assault Rifle... not the Tactical Assault Rifle ... which by the way, i don't use. the tactical assault rifle is also an assault rifle. and regarding AR vs SCR only, well you dont have to be a genius to realize that ARs do overall more dps, still have more optimal range and dont overheat. why should someone waste SP for the SCR when you can get the AR which is overall better?
What the kitten you talking about ....
AR - Militia rifle / GEK-38 / Duvolle Assault rifle
TAR - GLU-5 Tactical Assault Rifle / Duvolle Tactical Assault Rifle
And the AR been a good ASSAULT weapon.... what a shock.... |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
239
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Posted - 2013.05.17 09:33:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:[quote=Jack McReady]I thought we was talking about the Assault Rifle... not the Tactical Assault Rifle ... which by the way, i don't use. the tactical assault rifle is also an assault rifle. and regarding AR vs SCR only, well you dont have to be a genius to realize that ARs do overall more dps, still have more optimal range and dont overheat. why should someone waste SP for the SCR when you can get the AR which is overall better? What the kitten you talking about .... AR - Militia rifle / GEK-38 / Duvolle Assault rifle TAR - GLU-5 Tactical Assault Rifle / Duvolle Tactical Assault Rifle And the AR been a good ASSAULT weapon.... what a shock.... I see you dont get it, no point arguing with someone in denial. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
3897
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Posted - 2013.05.17 09:36:00 -
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Jan Solar wrote:because gallente are better engineers and more advanced than amarr. Tell that to blaster turrets |
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
16
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Posted - 2013.05.17 09:36:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:[quote=Jack McReady]I thought we was talking about the Assault Rifle... not the Tactical Assault Rifle ... which by the way, i don't use. the tactical assault rifle is also an assault rifle. and regarding AR vs SCR only, well you dont have to be a genius to realize that ARs do overall more dps, still have more optimal range and dont overheat. why should someone waste SP for the SCR when you can get the AR which is overall better? What the kitten you talking about .... AR - Militia rifle / GEK-38 / Duvolle Assault rifle TAR - GLU-5 Tactical Assault Rifle / Duvolle Tactical Assault Rifle And the AR been a good ASSAULT weapon.... what a shock....
The problem is that there is no point in using ANY OTHER WEAPON but the Ar in this game because its OP It out damages the HMG because HMG ADS is horse crap, it out damages the scrambler rifle and lazer rifle no contest, it out performs the mass driver on all fronts, the tac is currently doing the sniper rifles job, the AR is better then the shotgun in the closest of fights, etc etc. |
Panther Alpha
WarRavens
219
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Posted - 2013.05.17 09:40:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:[quote=Jack McReady]I thought we was talking about the Assault Rifle... not the Tactical Assault Rifle ... which by the way, i don't use. the tactical assault rifle is also an assault rifle. and regarding AR vs SCR only, well you dont have to be a genius to realize that ARs do overall more dps, still have more optimal range and dont overheat. why should someone waste SP for the SCR when you can get the AR which is overall better? What the kitten you talking about .... AR - Militia rifle / GEK-38 / Duvolle Assault rifle TAR - GLU-5 Tactical Assault Rifle / Duvolle Tactical Assault Rifle And the AR been a good ASSAULT weapon.... what a shock.... I see you dont get it, no point arguing with someone in denial.
So you think that an ASSAULT rifle, shouldn't be good as and an ASSAULT weapon... ? and that the SCR should be better as an Assault weapon than the AR is ?
And you say i'm in denial..... |
DeadlyAztec11
One-Armed Bandits
289
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Posted - 2013.05.17 09:43:00 -
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My theory is that the plasma bullets can be shot without causing substantial friction with the barrel, or any other component of the,weapon. While the Scrmbler rifle and Laser rifle are both laser weapons (Scrambler is pulse laser). So I suspect that it has to go through lenses to focus the light; in between these lenses it could reflect off things like the barrel, heating it up.
Just a wild theory from my imagination. :D |
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
16
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Posted - 2013.05.17 09:44:00 -
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You stupid son? The scrambler rifle is the Amaar Assault Rifle. Its an ASSAULT RIFLE. Being that it heats up, yeah, it should have better DPS then the AR. There needs to be drawbacks. |
Avina Lilitus
Liandri Hel-Jumpers Liandri Covenant
0
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Posted - 2013.05.17 09:45:00 -
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from my understanding: the standard assault rifles are fine.
The TARs though are an absolute joke. being far too powerful. I understand the concept of a battle rifle, and I love them. but if anything, they need to be best for mid-long. not close quarters. |
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
16
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Posted - 2013.05.17 09:49:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:My theory is that the plasma bullets can be shot without causing substantial friction with the barrel, or any other component of the,weapon. While the Scrmbler rifle and Laser rifle are both laser weapons (Scrambler is pulse laser). So I suspect that it has to go through lenses to focus the light; in between these lenses it could reflect off things like the barrel, heating it up.
Just a wild theory from my imagination. :D
But scramblers fire plasma...... It says so in the discription. Plasma super heated by lasers. |
Panther Alpha
WarRavens
219
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Posted - 2013.05.17 09:55:00 -
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Avina Lilitus wrote:from my understanding: the standard assault rifles are fine.
The TARs though are an absolute joke. being far too powerful. I understand the concept of a battle rifle, and I love them. but if anything, they need to be best for mid-long. not close quarters.
The problem is, that if CCP nerf the TAR, next in the list is the AR... because everything in this game, comes with a BIG NERFING HAMMER. |
tander09
RISE OF THE EMPIRE DARKSTAR ARMY
9
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Posted - 2013.05.17 10:08:00 -
[45] - Quote
two words, superheated electricity. don't mess with it |
lowratehitman
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
582
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Posted - 2013.05.17 10:14:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:That thing is firing plasma bullets which are at least 1-2 million 'c. So why the hell doesn't it overheat like the scrambler rifle??!!
The Kirins does indeed overheat. |
ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
468
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Posted - 2013.05.17 10:25:00 -
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What i imagine:
http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs12/i/2006/285/4/1/melted_1_by_pitbullsaviour.jpg |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.05.17 10:44:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote: So you think that an ASSAULT rifle, shouldn't be good as and an ASSAULT weapon... ? and that the SCR should be better as an Assault weapon than the AR is ?
And you say i'm in denial.....
stupidity at its finest
because the SCR is not the amarr assault rifle right |
Panther Alpha
WarRavens
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Posted - 2013.05.17 10:51:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Panther Alpha wrote: So you think that an ASSAULT rifle, shouldn't be good as and an ASSAULT weapon... ? and that the SCR should be better as an Assault weapon than the AR is ?
And you say i'm in denial.....
stupidity at its finest because the SCR is not the amarr assault rifle right
SCR = SCrambler Rifle
You have lots of different types of rifles ;
- Sniper Rifles
- Hunting Rifles
- Fully automatic Rifles
- Semi-automatic rifles
- Laser Rifles
- Assault Rifles
and so on.... |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
241
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Posted - 2013.05.17 10:59:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Panther Alpha wrote: So you think that an ASSAULT rifle, shouldn't be good as and an ASSAULT weapon... ? and that the SCR should be better as an Assault weapon than the AR is ?
And you say i'm in denial.....
stupidity at its finest because the SCR is not the amarr assault rifle right SCR = SCrambler Rifle You have lots of different types of rifles ; - Sniper Rifles - Hunting Rifles - Fully automatic Rifles - Semi-automatic rifles - Laser Rifles - Assault Rifles and so on.... because there is no assault scrambler rifle that you can buy in the market, right?
You dont have to be a genius to forecast that your butthurt will be epic when the AR gets nerfed and I will enjoy every minute of it. do yourself a favor and stop posting |
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Panther Alpha
WarRavens
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Posted - 2013.05.17 11:15:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Panther Alpha wrote: So you think that an ASSAULT rifle, shouldn't be good as and an ASSAULT weapon... ? and that the SCR should be better as an Assault weapon than the AR is ?
And you say i'm in denial.....
stupidity at its finest because the SCR is not the amarr assault rifle right SCR = SCrambler Rifle You have lots of different types of rifles ; - Sniper Rifles - Hunting Rifles - Fully automatic Rifles - Semi-automatic rifles - Laser Rifles - Assault Rifles and so on.... because there is no assault scrambler rifle that you can buy in the market, right? You dont have to be a genius to forecast that your butthurt will be epic when the AR gets nerfed and I will enjoy every minute of it. do yourself a favor and stop posting
Actually i starting to see what Joystig means about the "Future potential tied to EVE Online" been a CON... hard to the defend a game that is constantly trying to kill itself.... |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
444
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Posted - 2013.05.17 11:20:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:That thing is firing plasma bullets which are at least 1-2 million 'c. So why the hell doesn't it overheat like the scrambler rifle??!!
It will soon, why do you think CCP added the "overheat" animation to the AR? Just for looks?
More AR nerfs incoming, don't worry. |
DeadlyAztec11
One-Armed Bandits
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Posted - 2013.05.17 19:31:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:My theory is that the plasma bullets can be shot without causing substantial friction with the barrel, or any other component of the,weapon. While the Scrmbler rifle and Laser rifle are both laser weapons (Scrambler is pulse laser). So I suspect that it has to go through lenses to focus the light; in between these lenses it could reflect off things like the barrel, heating it up.
Just a wild theory from my imagination. :D But scramblers fire plasma...... It says so in the discription. Plasma super heated by lasers. Sorry about that. A CCP dev said that the scrambler shot laser pulses. I thought it was correct info |
Zero Harpuia
WarRavens
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Posted - 2013.05.17 20:18:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:Jack McReady wrote:What the kitten you talking about .... AR - Militia rifle / GEK-38 / Duvolle Assault rifle TAR - GLU-5 Tactical Assault Rifle / Duvolle Tactical Assault Rifle And the AR been a good ASSAULT weapon.... what a shock.... I see you dont get it, no point arguing with someone in denial. So you think that an ASSAULT rifle, shouldn't be good as and an ASSAULT weapon... ? and that the SCR should be better as an Assault weapon than the AR is ? And you say i'm in denial..... You do realize that the Assault Scrambler Rifle is a Scrambler Rifle, the Assault Forge Gun is a Forge Gun, and the Tactical Assault Rifle is an Assault Rifle, right? And that Assault Rifles are Blaster Rifles, hence the fact that people think they should be short ranged to match the lore. |
Acezero 44
Ill Omens EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.17 20:19:00 -
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Just thought id point out the assault scrambler never over heats. you can empty a clip of 70+ rounds with out any problems.
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I-Can't Feel My-Legs
Valor Company Incorporated
7
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Posted - 2013.05.17 20:23:00 -
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Large blaster turrets over heat. Small blaster turrets over heat. Blaster installations over heat.
But blaster rifles don't? If they had some tech that would make the rifles not overheat, why wouldn't they use it in the other blasters? |
Dust HaHakoke
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.05.17 20:39:00 -
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actually if you want to know the amarr are the 2nd least advanced of the empires but the largest the gallante are the 2nd most advanced and caldari the most advanced if you disclude the jove |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS
1372
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Posted - 2013.05.17 20:55:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Panther Alpha wrote: So you think that an ASSAULT rifle, shouldn't be good as and an ASSAULT weapon... ? and that the SCR should be better as an Assault weapon than the AR is ?
And you say i'm in denial.....
stupidity at its finest because the SCR is not the amarr assault rifle right SCR = SCrambler Rifle You have lots of different types of rifles ; - Sniper Rifles - Hunting Rifles - Fully automatic Rifles - Semi-automatic rifles - Laser Rifles - Assault Rifles and so on.... because there is no assault scrambler rifle that you can buy in the market, right? You dont have to be a genius to forecast that your butthurt will be epic when the AR gets nerfed and I will enjoy every minute of it. do yourself a favor and stop posting Actually i starting to see what Joystig means about the "Future potential tied to EVE Online" been a CON... hard to the defend a game that is constantly trying to kill itself.... The scrambler rifle is the amarr assault rifle dipshit, the minmatar get the combat rifle, and caldari get the rail rifle. They're all "assault" rifles genius
Does CCP really need to change it's name to "blaster rifle" for you to understand that? |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
424
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Posted - 2013.05.17 20:58:00 -
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I-Can't Feel My-Legs wrote:Large blaster turrets over heat. Small blaster turrets over heat. Blaster installations over heat.
But blaster rifles don't? If they had some tech that would make the rifles not overheat, why wouldn't they use it in the other blasters? because FPS don't make overheat mechanics on weapons with small mag sizes as the mag is meant to take the place of overheating why they did it for the SR is beyond me the ASR shouldn't overheat. |
Sephirian Fair
Defensores Doctrina
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Posted - 2013.05.17 21:04:00 -
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ladwar wrote:I-Can't Feel My-Legs wrote:Large blaster turrets over heat. Small blaster turrets over heat. Blaster installations over heat.
But blaster rifles don't? If they had some tech that would make the rifles not overheat, why wouldn't they use it in the other blasters? because FPS don't make overheat mechanics on weapons with small mag sizes as the mag is meant to take the place of overheating why they did it for the SR is beyond me the ASR shouldn't overheat.
My brother used the Advanced Assault Scrambler Rifle when it came out and he could empty the whole mag without overheating. I dunno if it has changed, but I don't think the Assault Variants overheat. |
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Byozuma Kegawa
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
38
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Posted - 2013.05.17 21:21:00 -
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The assault scrambler rifle also does damage comparable with a like level assault rifle. Reduced damage, reduced heat. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.17 21:38:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:That thing is firing plasma bullets which are at least 1-2 million 'c. So why the hell doesn't it overheat like the scrambler rifle??!! Gallente AR uses that fully open barrel to dissipate the heat it produces.
The Scrambler Rifle is a hybrid plasma AND laser weapon, and thus produces quite a bit more heat per shot, which is amplified by how fast the Assault variant fires, and how fast you can fire the semi-auto variant.
Don't overthink it, man. If it bothers you that much, the Gallente have spent over a hundred years doing R&D on weapons of this type. |
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