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Panther Alpha
WarRavens
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Posted - 2013.05.17 09:07:00 -
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
239
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Posted - 2013.05.17 09:10:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote: The way this is going... we going to have to use the AR as a melee weapon..and even then, they probably going to try nerfing that too.
the breach was slightly overnerfed and the TAR was overbuffed in exchange a build later. your point?
it is fact that: -the TAR beats the LR at LR optimal range but the LR is supposed to be king at its this ranges. -the TAR beats the regular AR at medium to close range (the irony is strong in this one) but the TAR was never supposed to be better than the regular AR at its domain, in short TAR is definately too good. -the AR has more optimal range than SCR and deals more dps on average.
I also find it really amusing that people claim that AR recoil and ADS is bad. you want too see bad recoil? get the SMG. you want to see really bad ADS, check out the LR. also the TARs hipfire hits up to 40m reliable and the ADS kick is almost cosmetical, it always hits where you aim with it.
you can be pretty sure that there will be a nerf but not because people "cry" on the forum. CCP is collecting & reviewing statistics about the matches. everyone uses the TAR because it is the best weapon out there and the DEVs know this and are most likely working on a solution already. the DEVs would know about it even if there would be no forum/place to "cry" about, the DEVs are not stupid. |

Panther Alpha
WarRavens
219
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Posted - 2013.05.17 09:13:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Panther Alpha wrote: The way this is going... we going to have to use the AR as a melee weapon..and even then, they probably going to try nerfing that too.
the breach was slightly overnerfed and the TAR was overbuffed in exchange a build later. your point? it is fact that: -the TAR beats the LR at LR optimal range but the LR is supposed to be king at its this ranges. -the TAR beats the regular AR at medium to close range (the irony is strong in this one) but the TAR was never supposed to be better than the regular AR at its domain, in short TAR is definately too good. -the AR has more optimal range than SCR and deals more dps on average. I also find it really amusing that people claim that AR recoil and ADS is bad. you want too see bad recoil? get the SMG. you want to see really bad ADS, check out the LR. also the TARs hipfire hits up to 40m reliable and the ADS kick is almost cosmetical, it always hits where you aim with it. you can be pretty sure that there will be a nerf but not because people "cry" on the forum. CCP is collecting & reviewing statistics about the matches. everyone uses the TAR because it is the best weapon out there and the DEVs know this and are most likely working on a solution already.
I thought we was talking about the Assault Rifle... not the Tactical Assault Rifle ... which by the way, i don't use. |

Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
239
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Posted - 2013.05.17 09:20:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:I thought we was talking about the Assault Rifle... not the Tactical Assault Rifle ... which by the way, i don't use. the tactical assault rifle is also an assault rifle.
and regarding AR vs SCR only, well you dont have to be a genius to realize that ARs do overall more dps, still have more optimal range and dont overheat. why should someone waste SP for the SCR when you can get the AR which is overall better? |

Panther Alpha
WarRavens
219
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Posted - 2013.05.17 09:26:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:[quote=Jack McReady]I thought we was talking about the Assault Rifle... not the Tactical Assault Rifle ... which by the way, i don't use. the tactical assault rifle is also an assault rifle. and regarding AR vs SCR only, well you dont have to be a genius to realize that ARs do overall more dps, still have more optimal range and dont overheat. why should someone waste SP for the SCR when you can get the AR which is overall better?
What the kitten you talking about ....
AR - Militia rifle / GEK-38 / Duvolle Assault rifle
TAR - GLU-5 Tactical Assault Rifle / Duvolle Tactical Assault Rifle
And the AR been a good ASSAULT weapon.... what a shock.... |

Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
239
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Posted - 2013.05.17 09:33:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:[quote=Jack McReady]I thought we was talking about the Assault Rifle... not the Tactical Assault Rifle ... which by the way, i don't use. the tactical assault rifle is also an assault rifle. and regarding AR vs SCR only, well you dont have to be a genius to realize that ARs do overall more dps, still have more optimal range and dont overheat. why should someone waste SP for the SCR when you can get the AR which is overall better? What the kitten you talking about .... AR - Militia rifle / GEK-38 / Duvolle Assault rifle TAR - GLU-5 Tactical Assault Rifle / Duvolle Tactical Assault Rifle And the AR been a good ASSAULT weapon.... what a shock....  I see you dont get it, no point arguing with someone in denial. |

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
3897
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Posted - 2013.05.17 09:36:00 -
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Jan Solar wrote:because gallente are better engineers and more advanced than amarr. Tell that to blaster turrets |

Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
16
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Posted - 2013.05.17 09:36:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:[quote=Jack McReady]I thought we was talking about the Assault Rifle... not the Tactical Assault Rifle ... which by the way, i don't use. the tactical assault rifle is also an assault rifle. and regarding AR vs SCR only, well you dont have to be a genius to realize that ARs do overall more dps, still have more optimal range and dont overheat. why should someone waste SP for the SCR when you can get the AR which is overall better? What the kitten you talking about .... AR - Militia rifle / GEK-38 / Duvolle Assault rifle TAR - GLU-5 Tactical Assault Rifle / Duvolle Tactical Assault Rifle And the AR been a good ASSAULT weapon.... what a shock.... 
The problem is that there is no point in using ANY OTHER WEAPON but the Ar in this game because its OP It out damages the HMG because HMG ADS is horse crap, it out damages the scrambler rifle and lazer rifle no contest, it out performs the mass driver on all fronts, the tac is currently doing the sniper rifles job, the AR is better then the shotgun in the closest of fights, etc etc. |

Panther Alpha
WarRavens
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Posted - 2013.05.17 09:40:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:[quote=Jack McReady]I thought we was talking about the Assault Rifle... not the Tactical Assault Rifle ... which by the way, i don't use. the tactical assault rifle is also an assault rifle. and regarding AR vs SCR only, well you dont have to be a genius to realize that ARs do overall more dps, still have more optimal range and dont overheat. why should someone waste SP for the SCR when you can get the AR which is overall better? What the kitten you talking about .... AR - Militia rifle / GEK-38 / Duvolle Assault rifle TAR - GLU-5 Tactical Assault Rifle / Duvolle Tactical Assault Rifle And the AR been a good ASSAULT weapon.... what a shock....  I see you dont get it, no point arguing with someone in denial.
So you think that an ASSAULT rifle, shouldn't be good as and an ASSAULT weapon... ? and that the SCR should be better as an Assault weapon than the AR is ?
And you say i'm in denial..... |

DeadlyAztec11
One-Armed Bandits
289
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Posted - 2013.05.17 09:43:00 -
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My theory is that the plasma bullets can be shot without causing substantial friction with the barrel, or any other component of the,weapon. While the Scrmbler rifle and Laser rifle are both laser weapons (Scrambler is pulse laser). So I suspect that it has to go through lenses to focus the light; in between these lenses it could reflect off things like the barrel, heating it up.
Just a wild theory from my imagination. :D |
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
16
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Posted - 2013.05.17 09:44:00 -
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You stupid son? The scrambler rifle is the Amaar Assault Rifle. Its an ASSAULT RIFLE. Being that it heats up, yeah, it should have better DPS then the AR. There needs to be drawbacks. |

Avina Lilitus
Liandri Hel-Jumpers Liandri Covenant
0
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Posted - 2013.05.17 09:45:00 -
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from my understanding: the standard assault rifles are fine.
The TARs though are an absolute joke. being far too powerful. I understand the concept of a battle rifle, and I love them. but if anything, they need to be best for mid-long. not close quarters. |

Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
16
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Posted - 2013.05.17 09:49:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:My theory is that the plasma bullets can be shot without causing substantial friction with the barrel, or any other component of the,weapon. While the Scrmbler rifle and Laser rifle are both laser weapons (Scrambler is pulse laser). So I suspect that it has to go through lenses to focus the light; in between these lenses it could reflect off things like the barrel, heating it up.
Just a wild theory from my imagination. :D
But scramblers fire plasma...... It says so in the discription. Plasma super heated by lasers. |

Panther Alpha
WarRavens
219
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Posted - 2013.05.17 09:55:00 -
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Avina Lilitus wrote:from my understanding: the standard assault rifles are fine.
The TARs though are an absolute joke. being far too powerful. I understand the concept of a battle rifle, and I love them. but if anything, they need to be best for mid-long. not close quarters.
The problem is, that if CCP nerf the TAR, next in the list is the AR... because everything in this game, comes with a BIG NERFING HAMMER. |

tander09
RISE OF THE EMPIRE DARKSTAR ARMY
9
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Posted - 2013.05.17 10:08:00 -
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two words, superheated electricity. don't mess with it |

lowratehitman
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
582
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Posted - 2013.05.17 10:14:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:That thing is firing plasma bullets which are at least 1-2 million 'c. So why the hell doesn't it overheat like the scrambler rifle??!!
The Kirins does indeed overheat. |

ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
468
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Posted - 2013.05.17 10:25:00 -
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What i imagine:
http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs12/i/2006/285/4/1/melted_1_by_pitbullsaviour.jpg |

Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
240
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Posted - 2013.05.17 10:44:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote: So you think that an ASSAULT rifle, shouldn't be good as and an ASSAULT weapon... ? and that the SCR should be better as an Assault weapon than the AR is ?
And you say i'm in denial.....
stupidity at its finest 
because the SCR is not the amarr assault rifle right  |

Panther Alpha
WarRavens
219
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Posted - 2013.05.17 10:51:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Panther Alpha wrote: So you think that an ASSAULT rifle, shouldn't be good as and an ASSAULT weapon... ? and that the SCR should be better as an Assault weapon than the AR is ?
And you say i'm in denial.....
stupidity at its finest  because the SCR is not the amarr assault rifle right 
SCR = SCrambler Rifle
You have lots of different types of rifles ;
- Sniper Rifles
- Hunting Rifles
- Fully automatic Rifles
- Semi-automatic rifles
- Laser Rifles
- Assault Rifles
and so on.... |

Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
241
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Posted - 2013.05.17 10:59:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Panther Alpha wrote: So you think that an ASSAULT rifle, shouldn't be good as and an ASSAULT weapon... ? and that the SCR should be better as an Assault weapon than the AR is ?
And you say i'm in denial.....
stupidity at its finest  because the SCR is not the amarr assault rifle right  SCR = SCrambler Rifle You have lots of different types of rifles ; - Sniper Rifles - Hunting Rifles - Fully automatic Rifles - Semi-automatic rifles - Laser Rifles - Assault Rifles and so on.... because there is no assault scrambler rifle that you can buy in the market, right? 
You dont have to be a genius to forecast that your butthurt will be epic when the AR gets nerfed and I will enjoy every minute of it. do yourself a favor and stop posting  |
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Panther Alpha
WarRavens
219
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Posted - 2013.05.17 11:15:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Panther Alpha wrote: So you think that an ASSAULT rifle, shouldn't be good as and an ASSAULT weapon... ? and that the SCR should be better as an Assault weapon than the AR is ?
And you say i'm in denial.....
stupidity at its finest  because the SCR is not the amarr assault rifle right  SCR = SCrambler Rifle You have lots of different types of rifles ; - Sniper Rifles - Hunting Rifles - Fully automatic Rifles - Semi-automatic rifles - Laser Rifles - Assault Rifles and so on.... because there is no assault scrambler rifle that you can buy in the market, right?  You dont have to be a genius to forecast that your butthurt will be epic when the AR gets nerfed and I will enjoy every minute of it. do yourself a favor and stop posting 
Actually i starting to see what Joystig means about the "Future potential tied to EVE Online" been a CON... hard to the defend a game that is constantly trying to kill itself.... |

DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
444
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Posted - 2013.05.17 11:20:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:That thing is firing plasma bullets which are at least 1-2 million 'c. So why the hell doesn't it overheat like the scrambler rifle??!!
It will soon, why do you think CCP added the "overheat" animation to the AR? Just for looks? 
More AR nerfs incoming, don't worry. |

DeadlyAztec11
One-Armed Bandits
290
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Posted - 2013.05.17 19:31:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:My theory is that the plasma bullets can be shot without causing substantial friction with the barrel, or any other component of the,weapon. While the Scrmbler rifle and Laser rifle are both laser weapons (Scrambler is pulse laser). So I suspect that it has to go through lenses to focus the light; in between these lenses it could reflect off things like the barrel, heating it up.
Just a wild theory from my imagination. :D But scramblers fire plasma...... It says so in the discription. Plasma super heated by lasers. Sorry about that. A CCP dev said that the scrambler shot laser pulses. I thought it was correct info  |

Zero Harpuia
WarRavens
483
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Posted - 2013.05.17 20:18:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:Jack McReady wrote:What the kitten you talking about .... AR - Militia rifle / GEK-38 / Duvolle Assault rifle TAR - GLU-5 Tactical Assault Rifle / Duvolle Tactical Assault Rifle And the AR been a good ASSAULT weapon.... what a shock....  I see you dont get it, no point arguing with someone in denial. So you think that an ASSAULT rifle, shouldn't be good as and an ASSAULT weapon... ? and that the SCR should be better as an Assault weapon than the AR is ? And you say i'm in denial..... You do realize that the Assault Scrambler Rifle is a Scrambler Rifle, the Assault Forge Gun is a Forge Gun, and the Tactical Assault Rifle is an Assault Rifle, right? And that Assault Rifles are Blaster Rifles, hence the fact that people think they should be short ranged to match the lore. |

Acezero 44
Ill Omens EoN.
10
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Posted - 2013.05.17 20:19:00 -
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Just thought id point out the assault scrambler never over heats. you can empty a clip of 70+ rounds with out any problems.
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I-Can't Feel My-Legs
Valor Company Incorporated
7
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Posted - 2013.05.17 20:23:00 -
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Large blaster turrets over heat. Small blaster turrets over heat. Blaster installations over heat.
But blaster rifles don't? If they had some tech that would make the rifles not overheat, why wouldn't they use it in the other blasters? |

Dust HaHakoke
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
0
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Posted - 2013.05.17 20:39:00 -
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actually if you want to know the amarr are the 2nd least advanced of the empires but the largest the gallante are the 2nd most advanced and caldari the most advanced if you disclude the jove |

Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS
1372
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Posted - 2013.05.17 20:55:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Panther Alpha wrote: So you think that an ASSAULT rifle, shouldn't be good as and an ASSAULT weapon... ? and that the SCR should be better as an Assault weapon than the AR is ?
And you say i'm in denial.....
stupidity at its finest  because the SCR is not the amarr assault rifle right  SCR = SCrambler Rifle You have lots of different types of rifles ; - Sniper Rifles - Hunting Rifles - Fully automatic Rifles - Semi-automatic rifles - Laser Rifles - Assault Rifles and so on.... because there is no assault scrambler rifle that you can buy in the market, right?  You dont have to be a genius to forecast that your butthurt will be epic when the AR gets nerfed and I will enjoy every minute of it. do yourself a favor and stop posting  Actually i starting to see what Joystig means about the "Future potential tied to EVE Online" been a CON... hard to the defend a game that is constantly trying to kill itself.... The scrambler rifle is the amarr assault rifle dipshit, the minmatar get the combat rifle, and caldari get the rail rifle. They're all "assault" rifles genius 
Does CCP really need to change it's name to "blaster rifle" for you to understand that? |

ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
424
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Posted - 2013.05.17 20:58:00 -
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I-Can't Feel My-Legs wrote:Large blaster turrets over heat. Small blaster turrets over heat. Blaster installations over heat.
But blaster rifles don't? If they had some tech that would make the rifles not overheat, why wouldn't they use it in the other blasters? because FPS don't make overheat mechanics on weapons with small mag sizes as the mag is meant to take the place of overheating why they did it for the SR is beyond me the ASR shouldn't overheat. |

Sephirian Fair
Defensores Doctrina
58
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Posted - 2013.05.17 21:04:00 -
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ladwar wrote:I-Can't Feel My-Legs wrote:Large blaster turrets over heat. Small blaster turrets over heat. Blaster installations over heat.
But blaster rifles don't? If they had some tech that would make the rifles not overheat, why wouldn't they use it in the other blasters? because FPS don't make overheat mechanics on weapons with small mag sizes as the mag is meant to take the place of overheating why they did it for the SR is beyond me the ASR shouldn't overheat.
My brother used the Advanced Assault Scrambler Rifle when it came out and he could empty the whole mag without overheating. I dunno if it has changed, but I don't think the Assault Variants overheat. |
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