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Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.05.16 23:53:00 -
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They have cost me tens of millions of ISK each day crashing into my dropships without warning
As if there was much a reason to use these now at all, considering how nerfed, bugged, and broken they are. I think I'm done for a little while.
I could turn this into a HUGE rant and I'd love to but I'll sign off at this.
Unless things change quick I suspect you will lose many pilots. And likely a few players among them. At least we're an easily ignored minority, right? |
Agent-W-209
The Merc Net
1
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Posted - 2013.05.17 00:06:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:They have cost me tens of millions of ISK each day crashing into my dropships without warning
As if there was much a reason to use these now at all, considering how nerfed, bugged, and broken they are. I think I'm done for a little while.
I could turn this into a HUGE rant and I'd love to but I'll sign off at this.
Unless things change quick I suspect you will lose many pilots. And likely a few players among them. At least we're an easily ignored minority, right?
Meh, you'll get over it soon enough. I have my suits depleted like crazy and I rage. Its a natural reaction. But I always want to go back on and play more. Just because I rage doesn't mean I'm gonna stop playing. Its a game: Whats understandable in real life, makes no sense in virtual reality. |
Godin Thekiller
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
77
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Posted - 2013.05.17 00:19:00 -
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Agent-W-209 wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:They have cost me tens of millions of ISK each day crashing into my dropships without warning
As if there was much a reason to use these now at all, considering how nerfed, bugged, and broken they are. I think I'm done for a little while.
I could turn this into a HUGE rant and I'd love to but I'll sign off at this.
Unless things change quick I suspect you will lose many pilots. And likely a few players among them. At least we're an easily ignored minority, right? Meh, you'll get over it soon enough. I have my suits depleted like crazy and I rage. Its a natural reaction. But I always want to go back on and play more. Just because I rage doesn't mean I'm gonna stop playing. Its a game: Whats understandable in real life, makes no sense in virtual reality.
made a proto suit fit, and could lose 24 before I become on even terms with my HAV fit. But god forbids that I can take solo AV'ers. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
1700
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Posted - 2013.05.17 01:32:00 -
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Got killed by one today, turns out they do over 180,000 damage. |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
495
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Posted - 2013.05.17 02:05:00 -
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One solution would be a larger 'fake' collision bubble around them
If it detects a vehicle inside this area, it will re-path or stop and move around to avoid it. Imagine holding two magnets together with the same charge. That sort of repelling motion should keep them from smacking into each other |
Skihids
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
1337
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Posted - 2013.05.17 02:17:00 -
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We have TCAS systems today, and I'd think that would only be improved in the future. |
Snaps Tremor
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
231
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Posted - 2013.05.17 02:27:00 -
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No, I like them as they are. With a clear sky and flat, even terrain, they're near enough guaranteed to drop their cargo right, and that's all that counts. Everything else is just the natural side effects of hot-dropping equipment into the middle of a battlefield.
How boring would it be if they delivered with 100% certainty, no matter where you called them in or what was going on around you? It makes you more aware of where you're calling hardware in, and when, and with all RDV pilots having a mandatory minimum level of alcohol in their bloodstream, every request is an emotional rollercoaster. |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
495
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Posted - 2013.05.17 02:29:00 -
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Skihids wrote:We have TCAS systems today, and I'd think that would only be improved in the future. Of course it would make sense for our RDV AI to do some air traffic controlling with other friendly air units.
However even enemy RDV's AI SHOULD want to avoid collisions. Since they may be able to analyze the size of an object quickly, but hardly could they tell it's mass unless they had very precise gravitational measurements (gravity being the weakest force, that'd be hard).
So friendly RDV should avoid us out of general strategic interest
Enemy RDV's AI should be avoiding us out of general good practice (not crashing into questionable objects/UFOs)
So... I'd love CCP to explain to me why they don't. Or at least tell us this is coming down the line and not going to be ignored or placed on a backburner forever. |
Sparrow Darkly
Martyrdom Inc Insurance Fraud.
4
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Posted - 2013.05.17 06:15:00 -
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Snaps Tremor wrote: How boring would it be if they delivered with 100% certainty... every request is an emotional rollercoaster.
Really? Your opinion, sir, is absolute garbage. If someone has spent a lot of time and ISK to purchase a vehicle, just to have it blown up because of poor placement, then something needs to be fixed. |
Heathen Bastard
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
272
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Posted - 2013.05.17 06:31:00 -
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Snaps Tremor wrote:No, I like them as they are. With a clear sky and flat, even terrain, they're near enough guaranteed to drop their cargo right, and that's all that counts. Everything else is just the natural side effects of hot-dropping equipment into the middle of a battlefield.
How boring would it be if they delivered with 100% certainty, no matter where you called them in or what was going on around you? It makes you more aware of where you're calling hardware in, and when, and with all RDV pilots having a mandatory minimum level of alcohol in their bloodstream, every request is an emotional rollercoaster.
and the times that they literally pick THE ONLY ****ING DIRECTION THERE IS ANY KIND OF BUILDING IN THE AREA to crash directly into from? I call it in an open field, I expect my entire-match-worth-of-ISK and still crappy car to be delivered in a timely fashion, and relatively intact. not slammed into literally the only object high enough withing almost a full kilometer.
please tell me how my one, STILL CRAPPY car that costs several times more than your suit should just randomly be slammed into buildings because you can't get out of the way. I'm not even up to using the real meaty things for 'em yet, like tanks, and derpships, and the better LAV's. |
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Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
499
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Posted - 2013.05.17 19:01:00 -
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Sparrow Darkly wrote:Snaps Tremor wrote: How boring would it be if they delivered with 100% certainty... every request is an emotional rollercoaster. Really? Your opinion, sir, is absolute garbage. If someone has spent a lot of time and ISK to purchase a vehicle, just to have it blown up because of poor placement, then something needs to be fixed.
I'm not talking about delivery at all.
I'm talking about being in the air and a DS spawns 2 feet away from you and flys right through you. You can't do $*%& about it.
5 games today I've lost my ship to RDV's. Don't say "dont fly low" I wasn't even flying low, You see how far, how fast, and how high these things go? Besides if flying low is considered an automatic death sentence anyhow then this is a stupid game.
I'm out 8 million ISK in under an hour because of this absolute BS. Everyday.
Don't say dodge them, when you have momentum, a trajectory, and an RDV spawns in high next to you with you in it's flight path there is NOTHING YOU CAN DO.
CCP. Seriously??? |
Snaps Tremor
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
233
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Posted - 2013.05.17 19:24:00 -
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Heathen Bastard wrote:Snaps Tremor wrote:No, I like them as they are. With a clear sky and flat, even terrain, they're near enough guaranteed to drop their cargo right, and that's all that counts. Everything else is just the natural side effects of hot-dropping equipment into the middle of a battlefield.
How boring would it be if they delivered with 100% certainty, no matter where you called them in or what was going on around you? It makes you more aware of where you're calling hardware in, and when, and with all RDV pilots having a mandatory minimum level of alcohol in their bloodstream, every request is an emotional rollercoaster. and the times that they literally pick THE ONLY ****ING DIRECTION THERE IS ANY KIND OF BUILDING IN THE AREA to crash directly into from? I call it in an open field, I expect my entire-match-worth-of-ISK and still crappy car to be delivered in a timely fashion, and relatively intact. not slammed into literally the only object high enough withing almost a full kilometer. please tell me how my one, STILL CRAPPY car that costs several times more than your suit should just randomly be slammed into buildings because you can't get out of the way. I'm not even up to using the real meaty things for 'em yet, like tanks, and derpships, and the better LAV's.
Please understand, I have a nice car too, and on more than one occasion, Speed TruckGäó has met a premature end due to the circumstances surrounding its delivery. I'm not just a suit lolling at your rage, I'm a driver, still lolling at your rage.
And yeah, the AI can definitely get better. And dropship pilots could have more warning before the RDV decloaks on top of them. But the basic idea of you picking the spot and having to deal with the consequences has to stay. Want your precious gold-plated dropship delivered in one piece? You could go run over to that nice big plain in your own redline, and still get sniped just as it finishes delivery. War is hell. |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
499
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Posted - 2013.05.17 19:30:00 -
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Snaps Tremor wrote:Heathen Bastard wrote:Snaps Tremor wrote:No, I like them as they are. With a clear sky and flat, even terrain, they're near enough guaranteed to drop their cargo right, and that's all that counts. Everything else is just the natural side effects of hot-dropping equipment into the middle of a battlefield.
How boring would it be if they delivered with 100% certainty, no matter where you called them in or what was going on around you? It makes you more aware of where you're calling hardware in, and when, and with all RDV pilots having a mandatory minimum level of alcohol in their bloodstream, every request is an emotional rollercoaster. and the times that they literally pick THE ONLY ****ING DIRECTION THERE IS ANY KIND OF BUILDING IN THE AREA to crash directly into from? I call it in an open field, I expect my entire-match-worth-of-ISK and still crappy car to be delivered in a timely fashion, and relatively intact. not slammed into literally the only object high enough withing almost a full kilometer. please tell me how my one, STILL CRAPPY car that costs several times more than your suit should just randomly be slammed into buildings because you can't get out of the way. I'm not even up to using the real meaty things for 'em yet, like tanks, and derpships, and the better LAV's. Please understand, I have a nice car too, and on more than one occasion, Speed TruckGäó has met a premature end due to the circumstances surrounding its delivery. I'm not just a suit lolling at your rage, I'm a driver, still lolling at your rage. And yeah, the AI can definitely get better. And dropship pilots could have more warning before the RDV decloaks on top of them. But the basic idea of you picking the spot and having to deal with the consequences has to stay. Want your precious gold-plated dropship delivered in one piece? You could go run over to that nice big plain in your own redline, and still get sniped just as it finishes delivery. War is hell.
Yeah I do that and it's mostly fine. Now that the maps are a little wider.
This thread is about in-air collisions. Talking about deployment is a bit of a derailment |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
1704
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Posted - 2013.05.17 20:12:00 -
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You know nguruthos I swear your a magnet to these things, I've only been taken out by RDV's 5-6 times total. |
ALM1GHTY B44L R00
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
84
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Posted - 2013.05.17 20:33:00 -
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gbghg wrote:You know nguruthos I swear your a magnet to these things, I've only been taken out by RDV's 5-6 times total.
I lose about 1 in 8 dropships to RDVs crashing into me. |
Kharga Lum
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
54
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Posted - 2013.05.17 20:35:00 -
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I've had them colide with my tank on a hilltop on several occasions too. The RDV will just glide through my tank like it's not even there. Flying just high enough to avoid hitting the ground but not high enough to clear the grass. |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
511
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Posted - 2013.05.17 20:43:00 -
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gbghg wrote:You know nguruthos I swear your a magnet to these things, I've only been taken out by RDV's 5-6 times total.
I fly a lot. 2 parts bad luck, 2 parts bad game design |
Heathen Bastard
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
272
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Posted - 2013.05.18 03:11:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote: This thread is about in-air collisions. Talking about deployment is a bit of a derailment
It is an in-air collision. it collides my car with a building, in the air. it also killed a dropship by slamming my car into it, then deciding to flip sideways and land upside down on a teammate. |
Nariec
Carbon 7
9
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Posted - 2013.05.18 03:57:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:Unless things change quick I suspect you will lose many pilots. And likely a few players among them. At least we're an easily ignored minority, right?
No kidding, I used to be a Myron Dropship Pilot, well more like a Gunship since it's fitting was made to kill and survive, 1 proto blaster and 1 proto cyclic missile, only time I would use it is when my friend is online, better coordination between just the two of us, we used to be able to pick out tanks that were out in the open, alone and no AV support, hover just above them, exploiting the tanks weakness, it's turret turning speed. The most tanks I ever, I mean my friend took out was 4 in a single match without any of us dying, very satisfying.
With the new skill respec, I just poured all my SP on Infantry core skills and Assault rifle, nothing on Vehicles, and for good reasons. Dropships right now SUCK even more than before, it moves like a brick, and gets one shot by Forge guns. |
Adelia Lafayette
DUST University Ivy League
32
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Posted - 2013.05.18 04:57:00 -
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I would like it if I could fly the RDV's in as a side job. 100k to rent it 50k payout upon succesfull delivery within 20m of the person who called it. Would really help me buy my overpriced dropships. |
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Hunter Junko
Bojo's School of the Trades
101
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Posted - 2013.05.18 05:28:00 -
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i have good relations with my RDV pilot, always gets my dropships delivered intact :D
but i have seen RDV pilots just doing some of the most crazy things while as infantry, as a pilot i havent had a problem. |
Kharga Lum
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
62
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Posted - 2013.05.25 23:33:00 -
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Even as a tank on a hill, I've had RDV's fly so low over the terrain they'll colide with me and destroy me. I'm on the ground, not moving and it flys through me... |
Raze galder
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
52
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Posted - 2013.05.26 00:40:00 -
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Maybe they should scrap the rdv planes and allow the stuff to drop from the sky like star hawks build and battle system did |
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