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Panther Alpha
WarRavens
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Posted - 2013.05.16 23:05:00 -
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Is a group of players at the moment that are in an unfair situation. I talking about the 5.000.000 SP alts.
Why 5,000,000 SP players, are playing against 11.000.0000 + SP players in regular basics ? this is wrong, and unfair for anyone that is the lower group of the SP cap. The difference is very noticeable, and not very enjoyable.
Before you say HTFU, i already done it... i started a new alt, and gone into noob mode. I just keeping my other alt active for Corp battles... no like i going to make a significant difference on PC anyway, because PC is going to be dominated by people in higher end of the SP cap. |
Geth Massredux
Defensores Doctrina
341
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Posted - 2013.05.16 23:07:00 -
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Yep, I will replace the HTFU with a warm welcome to New Eden, where your tears I drink for breakfest... Well since im not an eve player, they can tell you all about the------------ ^^^^^^^^^^^^
- Geth |
Mark The Red
The NM Militia
13
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Posted - 2013.05.16 23:19:00 -
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Coming from a rookie with a total of 3.5 mill SP, I don't mind duking it out with protosuits. Gettin' my booty kicked in is actually kinda fun. Makes it a challenge. What annoys me is the high costs of suits, which makes everyone change to militia the moment a squad of Imps appear on the opposite side.
We'll not get into that though.
Frankly, SP doesn't give you that big of an advantage. The difference between an advanced and proto is 100 hp and 10% damage. Considering it costs twice as much.. |
Laheon
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
528
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Posted - 2013.05.16 23:20:00 -
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SP is easily overcome by player skill. Get good. |
Coleman Gray
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.05.16 23:20:00 -
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In theory the higher SP players will be spending most of their time in PC. |
Xender17
Oblivion S.G.X
78
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Posted - 2013.05.16 23:21:00 -
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Proto's aren't Gods. They are Titans. So they are killable. |
ZDub 303
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
Noir. Mercenary Group
153
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Posted - 2013.05.16 23:22:00 -
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just keep grinding that cap..
with the x6 change on suits, its easier than the x8 in chrome.. and CCP is saying they are restructuring the skill tree to make it EVEN EASIER.
Really, not that much to QQ about.
This game is way more noob friendly than chromosome ever was. |
ZDub 303
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
Noir. Mercenary Group
153
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Posted - 2013.05.16 23:23:00 -
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double post |
Icy Xenosmilus
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
273
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Posted - 2013.05.16 23:23:00 -
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You do realize, that after 4 million SP there's no reason not to be able to at least compete. |
Full Metal Kitten
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
323
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Posted - 2013.05.16 23:25:00 -
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Mark The Red wrote:Frankly, SP doesn't give you that big of an advantage
Lol |
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Panther Alpha
WarRavens
218
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Posted - 2013.05.16 23:26:00 -
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Mark The Red wrote:Coming from a rookie with a total of 3.5 mill SP, I don't mind duking it out with protosuits. Gettin' my booty kicked in is actually kinda fun. Makes it a challenge. What annoys me is the high costs of suits, which makes everyone change to militia the moment a squad of Imps appear on the opposite side.
We'll not get into that though.
Frankly, SP doesn't give you that big of an advantage. The difference between an advanced and proto is 100 hp and 10% damage. Considering it costs twice as much..
You forgetting about ; Weapon Skills, and dropsuit upgrades... which give you a significant boost to you weapons efficiency, and modules you can equip... that + Pro-suits ...that makes a big difference.
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Goat of Dover
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
166
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Posted - 2013.05.16 23:29:00 -
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Can't agree with the posts more its skill man. If I can take scout with 187 EHP and go toe to toe with proto I really feel its the skill not gear.
Also before u say scouts are hard to hit I kill them no problem to. only issue I have is tax and this shotty Minni doped assault last night. He was really fast like really fast. |
Laheon
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
528
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Posted - 2013.05.16 23:31:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:You forgetting about ; Weapon Skills, and dropsuit upgrades... which give you a significant boost to you weapons efficiency, and modules you can equip... that + Pro-suits ...that makes a big difference.
Meh. Last time I played, I started off with 500k SP. This was mid-March, so there were already people with 10m SP. This resulted in a bit of frustration... I started off with about a 0.8 KDR, then managed to get it up to 1.2 or 1.3 within a week. Just to clarify, this was with about 1.5m SP, against people in protosuits.
It doesn't make as big a difference as you're making out to be. |
Arness Zeta
Simply Surreal
1
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Posted - 2013.05.16 23:31:00 -
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Xender17 wrote:Proto's aren't Gods. They are Titans. So they are killable.
You obviously haven't played god of war.. |
Delirium Inferno
Edoras Corporation
274
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Posted - 2013.05.16 23:32:00 -
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I thought you were going to complain about people who just started and must go weaks before really being able to specialize anywhere. I just hit 5 million skill points this week, and I definitely feel competitive when I play. |
Malkai Inos
The Vanguardians
Orion Empire
67
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Posted - 2013.05.16 23:34:00 -
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2.2m SP and i love killing protos left right and center with my slightly upgraded (GLU Tac + Flux Repper) militia medic suit. I imagine it to be way less satisfying when your enemies don't have 2x+ your EHP and cost 20x+ more.
Doesn't mean i don't struggle to keep a positive KDR against full squads but every lucky kill costs them more than what i lose throughout the whole match. |
Panther Alpha
WarRavens
218
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Posted - 2013.05.16 23:34:00 -
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Delirium Inferno wrote:I thought you were going to complain about people who just started and must go weaks before really being able to specialize anywhere. I just hit 5 million skill points this week, and I definitely feel competitive when I play.
Nahh.. make a new alt, and try the Battle Academy... you'll see how much better you could be doing in FAIR battle conditions. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
ROFL BROS
1359
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Posted - 2013.05.16 23:35:00 -
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I have SP because I played, they don't because they didn't. I fail to see the problem here. |
Harkon Vysarii
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
293
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Posted - 2013.05.16 23:36:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Is a group of players at the moment that are in an unfair situation. I talking about the 5.000.000 SP alts.
Why 5,000,000 SP players, are playing against 11.000.0000 + SP players in regular basics ? this is wrong, and unfair for anyone that is the lower group of the SP cap. The difference is very noticeable, and not very enjoyable.
Before you say HTFU, i already done it... i started a new alt, and gone into noob mode. I just keeping my other alt active for Corp battles... no like i going to make a significant difference on PC anyway, because PC is going to be dominated by people in the higher end of the SP cap.
Yup thats just how things are. Dust isnt fair I do well with my 6.5 mill and i cant complain. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
ROFL BROS
1359
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Posted - 2013.05.16 23:36:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Delirium Inferno wrote:I thought you were going to complain about people who just started and must go weaks before really being able to specialize anywhere. I just hit 5 million skill points this week, and I definitely feel competitive when I play. Nahh.. make a new alt, and try the Battle Academy... you'll see how much better you could be doing in FAIR battle conditions.
No one said this game was supposed to be fair  |
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David Spd
Red Star.
EoN.
8
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Posted - 2013.05.16 23:38:00 -
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I'm at 5m and I don't really care about the 10+m players. I can kill them just fine. It's only problematic if I'm solo and there's six of them.
If I'm in a squad it doesn't really matter though. the difference between 5 & 10 mil isn't really that big in my experience. They get a couple higher tiered modules I don't have and that's about it. |
Panther Alpha
WarRavens
218
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Posted - 2013.05.16 23:40:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:Delirium Inferno wrote:I thought you were going to complain about people who just started and must go weaks before really being able to specialize anywhere. I just hit 5 million skill points this week, and I definitely feel competitive when I play. Nahh.. make a new alt, and try the Battle Academy... you'll see how much better you could be doing in FAIR battle conditions. No one said this game was supposed to be fair
Well... read up ^... almost everyone in this thread is saying that SP makes no difference.... |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
ROFL BROS
1361
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Posted - 2013.05.16 23:42:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:Delirium Inferno wrote:I thought you were going to complain about people who just started and must go weaks before really being able to specialize anywhere. I just hit 5 million skill points this week, and I definitely feel competitive when I play. Nahh.. make a new alt, and try the Battle Academy... you'll see how much better you could be doing in FAIR battle conditions. No one said this game was supposed to be fair Well... read up ^... almost everyone in this thread is saying that SP makes no difference....
Skills and "talent"(  ) aren't fair either. I'm sorry, but little Timmy can't be on a proffessional basket ball team. |
Bubba Brown
Militaires Sans Jeux
51
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Posted - 2013.05.16 23:42:00 -
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there's a reason Eve is divided into high, low, and null sec
there is no reason dust doesn't have a similar division |
Panther Alpha
WarRavens
218
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Posted - 2013.05.16 23:46:00 -
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Bubba Brown wrote:there's a reason Eve is divided into high, low, and null sec
there is no reason dust doesn't have a similar division
Yeah... but in Dust, low and high are the same thing... and null is the Battle Academy. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
4226
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Posted - 2013.05.16 23:47:00 -
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11 years to cap out. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
ROFL BROS
1361
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Posted - 2013.05.16 23:49:00 -
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*face palm*
Null sec is no security, it's not the battle academy
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Delirium Inferno
Edoras Corporation
274
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Posted - 2013.05.16 23:51:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Delirium Inferno wrote:I thought you were going to complain about people who just started and must go weaks before really being able to specialize anywhere. I just hit 5 million skill points this week, and I definitely feel competitive when I play. Nahh.. make a new alt, and try the Battle Academy... you'll see how much better you could be doing in FAIR battle conditions.
Why would I want to do that when I am going 10-2 as a logi with 5 million SP? |
Panther Alpha
WarRavens
218
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Posted - 2013.05.16 23:51:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:*face palm* Null sec is no security, it's not the battle academy
And in Dust we shoot each other with guns, in a planet, in a First Person View ... you do that in EvE to huh ? |
Laheon
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
529
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Posted - 2013.05.16 23:52:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:
And in Dust we shoot each other with guns, in a planet, in a First Person View ... you do that in EvE to huh ?
In a planet? I'm not sure anyone shoots anyone in a planet.
But yes, capsuleers shoot each other with guns. |
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