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Aesiron Kor-Azor
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.16 06:31:00 -
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Is there somewhere where I can see the summaries or an outline of the bonuses for each dropsuit? I want to see which assault dropsuit is the BEST. |
Harkon Vysarii
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2013.05.16 06:33:00 -
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I woulld say the Amarr suit with associated Amarr weaponry. Not because it is the best stat wise but because in a fight I have so much damn swag! |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
1534
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Posted - 2013.05.16 06:34:00 -
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Amarr Assault is the only one that has value over the medium suit, and only if you use laser rifles or scrambler rifles exclusively. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2013.05.16 06:35:00 -
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The Amarr Logistics suit is the best Assault Dropsuit.
Balanced slots, balanced and high armour and shields, and a built-in armour repairer with a buff to any addiitonal repairers you equip. |
RECON BY FIRE
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Posted - 2013.05.16 06:36:00 -
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None, go Caldari Logi with Tac Duvolle. If you don't youll hate this game. |
Aesiron Kor-Azor
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
70
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Posted - 2013.05.16 06:42:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:The Amarr Logistics suit is the best Assault Dropsuit.
Balanced slots, balanced and high armour and shields, and a built-in armour repairer with a buff to any addiitonal repairers you equip.
I said assault, not logistics. I have tried going logi but I end up chasing people trying to repair them and getting gunned down because I have no decent CQ sidearm... |
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Posted - 2013.05.16 06:44:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:The Amarr Logistics suit is the best Assault Dropsuit.
Balanced slots, balanced and high armour and shields, and a built-in armour repairer with a buff to any addiitonal repairers you equip. I said assault, not logistics. I have tried going logi but I end up chasing people trying to repair them and getting gunned down because I have no decent CQ sidearm...
Amarr logi has a sidearm. |
Aesiron Kor-Azor
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
70
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Posted - 2013.05.16 06:46:00 -
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RECON BY FIRE wrote:Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:The Amarr Logistics suit is the best Assault Dropsuit.
Balanced slots, balanced and high armour and shields, and a built-in armour repairer with a buff to any addiitonal repairers you equip. I said assault, not logistics. I have tried going logi but I end up chasing people trying to repair them and getting gunned down because I have no decent CQ sidearm... Amarr logi has a sidearm.
I'm not willing to spend some odd 500,000 SP to get a logistics with a sidearm, I hate being logi because I just run around healing everyone, I would rather be an assault, it is less boring.
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2013.05.16 06:46:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:The Amarr Logistics suit is the best Assault Dropsuit.
Balanced slots, balanced and high armour and shields, and a built-in armour repairer with a buff to any addiitonal repairers you equip. I said assault, not logistics. I have tried going logi but I end up chasing people trying to repair them and getting gunned down because I have no decent CQ sidearm...
I know. Amarr Logi gets a Sidearm slot.
It can operate effectively as an Assault suit. More effectively than Assault suits in some ways. Just because you have a Logi suit, doesn't mean you have to fit it for healing.
Load up on Nanohives. Or leave the slots free so you can fit better modules. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3027
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Posted - 2013.05.16 06:48:00 -
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RECON BY FIRE wrote:None, go Caldari Logi with Tac Duvolle. If you don't youll hate this game.
And if you do, you'll hate Scrambler Rifles. |
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Aesiron Kor-Azor
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
70
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Posted - 2013.05.16 06:48:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:The Amarr Logistics suit is the best Assault Dropsuit.
Balanced slots, balanced and high armour and shields, and a built-in armour repairer with a buff to any addiitonal repairers you equip. I said assault, not logistics. I have tried going logi but I end up chasing people trying to repair them and getting gunned down because I have no decent CQ sidearm... I know. Amarr Logi gets a Sidearm slot. It can operate effectively as an Assault suit. More effectively than Assault suits in some ways. Just because you have a Logi suit, doesn't mean you have to fit it for healing. Load up on Nanohives.
Refer to my reply above this post as to why I am not spending 500,000 SP just to get a logi with sidearms... Logistics are meant for supporting others, I would rather go around killing people.
Now get back on topic, which is the best assault dropsuit?
I am NOT talking about logistics, so quit mentioning it. |
RECON BY FIRE
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Posted - 2013.05.16 06:50:00 -
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Dude, they all suck. You might as well pick a basic frame that you like the slot layout of and stick with that. Assaults suits suck and their racial bonuses suck even worse. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2013.05.16 07:01:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:Refer to my reply above this post as to why I am not spending 500,000 SP just to get a logi with sidearms... Logistics are meant for supporting others, I would rather go around killing people.
Now get back on topic, which is the best assault dropsuit?
I am NOT talking about logistics, so quit mentioning it.
So you refuse to use the Amarr Logi when it functions as a better Assault suit than any of the Assaults do.
I'm not talking about running Logi, I'm talking about using a good suit that happens to have the "Logi" title but fitting and running it as an Assault suit. And if you choose to do that, Amarr Logi is the best Assault suit. |
Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
222
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Posted - 2013.05.16 07:34:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:The Amarr Logistics suit is the best Assault Dropsuit.
Balanced slots, balanced and high armour and shields, and a built-in armour repairer with a buff to any addiitonal repairers you equip.
amarr assault has the SAME slot layout as the amarr logi but more base health and more PG/CPU (plus all the other benefits over the logi like stamina, forward and strafe speed). the amarr logi is pretty much weaksauce compared to other logis, the sidearm slot is not worth the 2 slot difference. I would say the amarr assault is pretty much better at assaulting, esp. if you run laser rifle or scrambler rifle.
the amarr logi is the perfect SUPPORT. you can carry repairer, injector, nanohive, scrambler pistol/smg in sidearm, flux/av nades and swarms |
Leovarian L Lavitz
Murder Taxi Inc.
327
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Posted - 2013.05.16 07:41:00 -
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Minmatar Assault best assault :D
100 round clip smg is wazzzup |
Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion
RISE of LEGION
657
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Posted - 2013.05.16 07:44:00 -
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Or don't assess the biased opinions above and compare assault dropsuits to your heart's content here!
http://wiki.dust514.info/index.php?title=Medium_Dropsuits
Advertising done right. Watch and learn, CCP. |
The Robot Devil
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
240
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Posted - 2013.05.16 08:10:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:The Amarr Logistics suit is the best Assault Dropsuit.
This means it is broken and needs to be reworked. |
Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
222
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Posted - 2013.05.16 08:19:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:The Amarr Logistics suit is the best Assault Dropsuit. This means it is broken and needs to be reworked.
as I already mentioned it is not, it is just the most flexible. you dont have to be a genius to realize that this is bs and the amarr is the weakest logi (in terms of durability and being a logi) |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3035
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Posted - 2013.05.16 08:30:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:the amarr logi is the perfect SUPPORT. you can carry repairer, injector, nanohive, scrambler pistol/smg in sidearm, flux/av nades and swarms
Wow. That actually sounds like a fit I would run. Good call. +1
For the record though, dual-tanking an Amarr Logi and NOT fitting it for support can let you operate as a frontline fighter and damage sponge really well. You're more vulnerable to burst damage because of slightly lower HP than an Assault, but against sustained damage, your repair rate can tip the balance. Shotguns, Snipers or 3 vs. 1 odds will lean in favour of something other than the Amarr Logi, but it does have viable uses as an Assault suit.
More seriously though, it really depends on what you want out of your suit.
If you're a frontline Assault, you might run an AR, Scrambler, Laser Rifle or Shotgun, depending on your preferred range. Lasers and Scramblers are better on the Amarr Assault, ARs and Shotguns are better with the Caldari suit. For the most common Assault roles, I'd recommend one of those two suits. The Caldari Assault is also a good sniper suit, for the same reason it's a god AR or Shotgun Assault. All three of those weapons are Hybrids, and all of them benefit from the suit's passive reload speed bonus. |
DeadlyAztec11
One-Armed Bandits
Heretic Initiative
264
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Posted - 2013.05.16 08:37:00 -
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Gallante... So much Armor. So much it is,like being a really fast heavy. |
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The Robot Devil
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.16 09:31:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:The Amarr Logistics suit is the best Assault Dropsuit. This means it is broken and needs to be reworked. as I already mentioned it is not, it is just the most flexible. you dont have to be a genius to realize that this is bs and the amarr is the weakest logi (in terms of durability and being a logi)
Flexibility should be within the suits role. People don't fly logi ships into battle to fight and we should not be better at assaulting in a logi suit. The suit's flexibility should only be in a logistics role and should not cover two suits. The logis that are too flexible and can perform assault roles AR broken. They need to be looked at and reworked. We shouldn't sacrifice one suit because another is broken. Lower the CPU/PG and give role bonuses that make the logi gear easier to fit. A logi suit is the jack-of-all-trades suit but it should not out shine the assault when it comes to fighting. |
Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
224
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Posted - 2013.05.16 09:35:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Jack McReady wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:The Amarr Logistics suit is the best Assault Dropsuit. This means it is broken and needs to be reworked. as I already mentioned it is not, it is just the most flexible. you dont have to be a genius to realize that this is bs and the amarr is the weakest logi (in terms of durability and being a logi) Flexibility should be within the suits role. People don't fly logi ships into battle to fight and we should not be better at assaulting in a logi suit. The suit's flexibility should only be in a logistics role and should not cover two suits. The logis that are too flexible and can perform assault roles AR broken. They need to be looked at and reworked. We shouldn't sacrifice one suit because another is broken. Lower the CPU/PG and give role bonuses that make the logi gear easier to fit. A logi suit is the jack-of-all-trades suit but it should not out shine the assault when it comes to fighting.
if you check the amarr logi stats then you will see that it does not outshine the assaults. it also is the only logi with less PG/CPU then the racial assault counterpart. the reason why some logis are used as combat suits is because they are very durable and they are very durable because they have enough slots to pull off a powerful tank. the amarr logi has 2 less slots for tanking that is why this does not work on the amarr logi as it does on other logis. |
Harkon Vysarii
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
288
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Posted - 2013.05.16 11:04:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:RECON BY FIRE wrote:None, go Caldari Logi with Tac Duvolle. If you don't youll hate this game. And if you do, you'll hate Scrambler Rifles.
Ummmm THIS! |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
247
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Posted - 2013.05.16 11:06:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:The Amarr Logistics suit is the best Assault Dropsuit.
Balanced slots, balanced and high armour and shields, and a built-in armour repairer with a buff to any addiitonal repairers you equip. I said assault, not logistics. I have tried going logi but I end up chasing people trying to repair them and getting gunned down because I have no decent CQ sidearm...
Dude.... YOu don't get it, The caldari Logi suit at proto level is hands down the best suit in the game. 5 high, 3 equip, 4 low slots makes its only weakness low armor and no sidearm. But if you run an AR you don't need a sidearm, and if you run 5 complex shield extenders, chances are you wont need much armor either...... |
Geth Massredux
Defensores Doctrina
335
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Posted - 2013.05.16 11:07:00 -
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RECON BY FIRE wrote:Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:The Amarr Logistics suit is the best Assault Dropsuit.
Balanced slots, balanced and high armour and shields, and a built-in armour repairer with a buff to any addiitonal repairers you equip. I said assault, not logistics. I have tried going logi but I end up chasing people trying to repair them and getting gunned down because I have no decent CQ sidearm... Amarr logi has a sidearm.
Yea only the proto variant. Sucks because I waisted in std Amarr logi, thinking it had a sidearm.
Anyways the Amarr assault suit is the best- not because I run it, but It has by default the same value of hit points for both armor and shield, meaning they enemy has to burn through that shield, then through that armor... |
Panther Alpha
WarRavens
208
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Posted - 2013.05.16 11:15:00 -
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I feel like i "Living by the sword, dying by the sword" right now...I still using the Caldari suit, because i thought it should been the better one...but i'm not so sure anymore..
Can i have a Respec CCP ? please ?  |
Nirwanda Vaughns
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
45
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Posted - 2013.05.16 11:19:00 -
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going on the stats and the skill bonus i'd go with caldari, its really the onlyone which truly benefits from the shield recharge and once u get the extra 10% reload from proto suit combined with rapid reload it gives you a pretty good edge on the batlefield. personally for me the best assault suit is the pretty much any logi suit. gotta love them logis |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
3147
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Posted - 2013.05.16 11:31:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:The Amarr Logistics suit is the best Assault Dropsuit. This means it is broken and needs to be reworked.
yes the assault suits need to be reworked not necessarily the logi ones except for caldari proto logi and its bonus |
NAV HIV
The Generals
EoN.
213
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Posted - 2013.05.16 14:13:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:The Amarr Logistics suit is the best Assault Dropsuit. This means it is broken and needs to be reworked. yes the assault suits need to be reworked not necessarily the logi ones except for caldari proto logi and its bonus
Caldari Assault.... is the best assault suit. Would be nice if we had Damage as Bonus rather than reload speed. |
CAELAN Andoril
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2013.05.16 14:21:00 -
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I love my Minmatar Assault, simply because it has built-in armour repair. Yes, it's only 1 HP/s, but still. If I wait long enough with a bare dropsuit, I will eventually go back to full health. No one else can do the same unless they put modules on. The racial bonus isn't that fantastic with what I'm using [Flaylock Pistol], but I'll see if higher-tier variants with more ammo per clip will actually do anything. I still love the freaking thing, though. |
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