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Aesiron Kor-Azor Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 70	Posted - 2013.05.16 06:31:00 - [1] - Quote Is there somewhere where I can see the summaries or an outline of the bonuses for each dropsuit? I want to see which assault dropsuit is the BEST.
Harkon Vysarii Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 285	Posted - 2013.05.16 06:33:00 - [2] - Quote I woulld say the Amarr suit with associated Amarr weaponry. Not because it is the best stat wise but because in a fight I have so much damn swag!
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1534	Posted - 2013.05.16 06:34:00 - [3] - Quote Amarr Assault is the only one that has value over the medium suit, and only if you use laser rifles or scrambler rifles exclusively.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 3026	Posted - 2013.05.16 06:35:00 - [4] - Quote The Amarr Logistics suit is the best Assault Dropsuit. Balanced slots, balanced and high armour and shields, and a built-in armour repairer with a buff to any addiitonal repairers you equip.
RECON BY FIRE Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 165	Posted - 2013.05.16 06:36:00 - [5] - Quote None, go Caldari Logi with Tac Duvolle. If you don't youll hate this game.
Aesiron Kor-Azor Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 70	Posted - 2013.05.16 06:42:00 - [6] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: The Amarr Logistics suit is the best Assault Dropsuit. Balanced slots, balanced and high armour and shields, and a built-in armour repairer with a buff to any addiitonal repairers you equip. I said assault, not logistics. I have tried going logi but I end up chasing people trying to repair them and getting gunned down because I have no decent CQ sidearm...
RECON BY FIRE Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 165	Posted - 2013.05.16 06:44:00 - [7] - Quote Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: The Amarr Logistics suit is the best Assault Dropsuit. Balanced slots, balanced and high armour and shields, and a built-in armour repairer with a buff to any addiitonal repairers you equip. I said assault, not logistics. I have tried going logi but I end up chasing people trying to repair them and getting gunned down because I have no decent CQ sidearm... Amarr logi has a sidearm.
Aesiron Kor-Azor Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 70	Posted - 2013.05.16 06:46:00 - [8] - Quote RECON BY FIRE wrote: Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: The Amarr Logistics suit is the best Assault Dropsuit. Balanced slots, balanced and high armour and shields, and a built-in armour repairer with a buff to any addiitonal repairers you equip. I said assault, not logistics. I have tried going logi but I end up chasing people trying to repair them and getting gunned down because I have no decent CQ sidearm... Amarr logi has a sidearm. I'm not willing to spend some odd 500,000 SP to get a logistics with a sidearm, I hate being logi because I just run around healing everyone, I would rather be an assault, it is less boring.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 3027	Posted - 2013.05.16 06:46:00 - [9] - Quote Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: The Amarr Logistics suit is the best Assault Dropsuit. Balanced slots, balanced and high armour and shields, and a built-in armour repairer with a buff to any addiitonal repairers you equip. I said assault, not logistics. I have tried going logi but I end up chasing people trying to repair them and getting gunned down because I have no decent CQ sidearm... I know. Amarr Logi gets a Sidearm slot. It can operate effectively as an Assault suit. More effectively than Assault suits in some ways. Just because you have a Logi suit, doesn't mean you have to fit it for healing. Load up on Nanohives. Or leave the slots free so you can fit better modules.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 3027	Posted - 2013.05.16 06:48:00 - [10] - Quote RECON BY FIRE wrote: None, go Caldari Logi with Tac Duvolle. If you don't youll hate this game. And if you do, you'll hate Scrambler Rifles.

Aesiron Kor-Azor Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 70	Posted - 2013.05.16 06:48:00 - [11] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: The Amarr Logistics suit is the best Assault Dropsuit. Balanced slots, balanced and high armour and shields, and a built-in armour repairer with a buff to any addiitonal repairers you equip. I said assault, not logistics. I have tried going logi but I end up chasing people trying to repair them and getting gunned down because I have no decent CQ sidearm... I know. Amarr Logi gets a Sidearm slot. It can operate effectively as an Assault suit. More effectively than Assault suits in some ways. Just because you have a Logi suit, doesn't mean you have to fit it for healing. Load up on Nanohives. Refer to my reply above this post as to why I am not spending 500,000 SP just to get a logi with sidearms... Logistics are meant for supporting others, I would rather go around killing people. Now get back on topic, which is the best assault dropsuit? I am NOT talking about logistics, so quit mentioning it.
RECON BY FIRE Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 165	Posted - 2013.05.16 06:50:00 - [12] - Quote Dude, they all suck. You might as well pick a basic frame that you like the slot layout of and stick with that. Assaults suits suck and their racial bonuses suck even worse.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 3029	Posted - 2013.05.16 07:01:00 - [13] - Quote Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote: Refer to my reply above this post as to why I am not spending 500,000 SP just to get a logi with sidearms... Logistics are meant for supporting others, I would rather go around killing people. Now get back on topic, which is the best assault dropsuit? I am NOT talking about logistics, so quit mentioning it. So you refuse to use the Amarr Logi when it functions as a better Assault suit than any of the Assaults do. I'm not talking about running Logi, I'm talking about using a good suit that happens to have the "Logi" title but fitting and running it as an Assault suit. And if you choose to do that, Amarr Logi is the best Assault suit.
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 222	Posted - 2013.05.16 07:34:00 - [14] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: The Amarr Logistics suit is the best Assault Dropsuit. Balanced slots, balanced and high armour and shields, and a built-in armour repairer with a buff to any addiitonal repairers you equip. amarr assault has the SAME slot layout as the amarr logi but more base health and more PG/CPU (plus all the other benefits over the logi like stamina, forward and strafe speed). the amarr logi is pretty much weaksauce compared to other logis, the sidearm slot is not worth the 2 slot difference. I would say the amarr assault is pretty much better at assaulting, esp. if you run laser rifle or scrambler rifle. the amarr logi is the perfect SUPPORT. you can carry repairer, injector, nanohive, scrambler pistol/smg in sidearm, flux/av nades and swarms
Leovarian L Lavitz Murder Taxi Inc. 327	Posted - 2013.05.16 07:41:00 - [15] - Quote Minmatar Assault best assault :D 100 round clip smg is wazzzup
Vyzion Eyri The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 657	Posted - 2013.05.16 07:44:00 - [16] - Quote Or don't assess the biased opinions above and compare assault dropsuits to your heart's content here! http://wiki.dust514.info/index.php?title=Medium_Dropsuits Advertising done right. Watch and learn, CCP.
The Robot Devil BetaMax. CRONOS. 240	Posted - 2013.05.16 08:10:00 - [17] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: The Amarr Logistics suit is the best Assault Dropsuit. This means it is broken and needs to be reworked.
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 222	Posted - 2013.05.16 08:19:00 - [18] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: The Amarr Logistics suit is the best Assault Dropsuit. This means it is broken and needs to be reworked. as I already mentioned it is not, it is just the most flexible. you dont have to be a genius to realize that this is bs and the amarr is the weakest logi (in terms of durability and being a logi)
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 3035	Posted - 2013.05.16 08:30:00 - [19] - Quote Jack McReady wrote: the amarr logi is the perfect SUPPORT. you can carry repairer, injector, nanohive, scrambler pistol/smg in sidearm, flux/av nades and swarms Wow. That actually sounds like a fit I would run. Good call. +1 For the record though, dual-tanking an Amarr Logi and NOT fitting it for support can let you operate as a frontline fighter and damage sponge really well. You're more vulnerable to burst damage because of slightly lower HP than an Assault, but against sustained damage, your repair rate can tip the balance. Shotguns, Snipers or 3 vs. 1 odds will lean in favour of something other than the Amarr Logi, but it does have viable uses as an Assault suit. More seriously though, it really depends on what you want out of your suit. If you're a frontline Assault, you might run an AR, Scrambler, Laser Rifle or Shotgun, depending on your preferred range. Lasers and Scramblers are better on the Amarr Assault, ARs and Shotguns are better with the Caldari suit. For the most common Assault roles, I'd recommend one of those two suits. The Caldari Assault is also a good sniper suit, for the same reason it's a god AR or Shotgun Assault. All three of those weapons are Hybrids, and all of them benefit from the suit's passive reload speed bonus.
DeadlyAztec11 One-Armed Bandits Heretic Initiative 264	Posted - 2013.05.16 08:37:00 - [20] - Quote Gallante... So much Armor. So much it is,like being a really fast heavy.

The Robot Devil BetaMax. CRONOS. 241	Posted - 2013.05.16 09:31:00 - [21] - Quote Jack McReady wrote: The Robot Devil wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: The Amarr Logistics suit is the best Assault Dropsuit. This means it is broken and needs to be reworked. as I already mentioned it is not, it is just the most flexible. you dont have to be a genius to realize that this is bs and the amarr is the weakest logi (in terms of durability and being a logi) Flexibility should be within the suits role. People don't fly logi ships into battle to fight and we should not be better at assaulting in a logi suit. The suit's flexibility should only be in a logistics role and should not cover two suits. The logis that are too flexible and can perform assault roles AR broken. They need to be looked at and reworked. We shouldn't sacrifice one suit because another is broken. Lower the CPU/PG and give role bonuses that make the logi gear easier to fit. A logi suit is the jack-of-all-trades suit but it should not out shine the assault when it comes to fighting.
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 224	Posted - 2013.05.16 09:35:00 - [22] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: Jack McReady wrote: The Robot Devil wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: The Amarr Logistics suit is the best Assault Dropsuit. This means it is broken and needs to be reworked. as I already mentioned it is not, it is just the most flexible. you dont have to be a genius to realize that this is bs and the amarr is the weakest logi (in terms of durability and being a logi) Flexibility should be within the suits role. People don't fly logi ships into battle to fight and we should not be better at assaulting in a logi suit. The suit's flexibility should only be in a logistics role and should not cover two suits. The logis that are too flexible and can perform assault roles AR broken. They need to be looked at and reworked. We shouldn't sacrifice one suit because another is broken. Lower the CPU/PG and give role bonuses that make the logi gear easier to fit. A logi suit is the jack-of-all-trades suit but it should not out shine the assault when it comes to fighting. if you check the amarr logi stats then you will see that it does not outshine the assaults. it also is the only logi with less PG/CPU then the racial assault counterpart. the reason why some logis are used as combat suits is because they are very durable and they are very durable because they have enough slots to pull off a powerful tank. the amarr logi has 2 less slots for tanking that is why this does not work on the amarr logi as it does on other logis.
Harkon Vysarii Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 288	Posted - 2013.05.16 11:04:00 - [23] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: RECON BY FIRE wrote: None, go Caldari Logi with Tac Duvolle. If you don't youll hate this game. And if you do, you'll hate Scrambler Rifles. Ummmm THIS!
Marston VC SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 247	Posted - 2013.05.16 11:06:00 - [24] - Quote Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: The Amarr Logistics suit is the best Assault Dropsuit. Balanced slots, balanced and high armour and shields, and a built-in armour repairer with a buff to any addiitonal repairers you equip. I said assault, not logistics. I have tried going logi but I end up chasing people trying to repair them and getting gunned down because I have no decent CQ sidearm... Dude.... YOu don't get it, The caldari Logi suit at proto level is hands down the best suit in the game. 5 high, 3 equip, 4 low slots makes its only weakness low armor and no sidearm. But if you run an AR you don't need a sidearm, and if you run 5 complex shield extenders, chances are you wont need much armor either......
Geth Massredux Defensores Doctrina 335	Posted - 2013.05.16 11:07:00 - [25] - Quote RECON BY FIRE wrote: Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: The Amarr Logistics suit is the best Assault Dropsuit. Balanced slots, balanced and high armour and shields, and a built-in armour repairer with a buff to any addiitonal repairers you equip. I said assault, not logistics. I have tried going logi but I end up chasing people trying to repair them and getting gunned down because I have no decent CQ sidearm... Amarr logi has a sidearm. Yea only the proto variant. Sucks because I waisted in std Amarr logi, thinking it had a sidearm. Anyways the Amarr assault suit is the best- not because I run it, but It has by default the same value of hit points for both armor and shield, meaning they enemy has to burn through that shield, then through that armor...
Panther Alpha WarRavens 208	Posted - 2013.05.16 11:15:00 - [26] - Quote I feel like i "Living by the sword, dying by the sword" right now...I still using the Caldari suit, because i thought it should been the better one...but i'm not so sure anymore.. Can i have a Respec CCP ? please ?
Nirwanda Vaughns Molon Labe. League of Infamy 45	Posted - 2013.05.16 11:19:00 - [27] - Quote going on the stats and the skill bonus i'd go with caldari, its really the onlyone which truly benefits from the shield recharge and once u get the extra 10% reload from proto suit combined with rapid reload it gives you a pretty good edge on the batlefield. personally for me the best assault suit is the pretty much any logi suit. gotta love them logis
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming EoN. 3147	Posted - 2013.05.16 11:31:00 - [28] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: The Amarr Logistics suit is the best Assault Dropsuit. This means it is broken and needs to be reworked. yes the assault suits need to be reworked not necessarily the logi ones except for caldari proto logi and its bonus
NAV HIV The Generals EoN. 213	Posted - 2013.05.16 14:13:00 - [29] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: The Robot Devil wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: The Amarr Logistics suit is the best Assault Dropsuit. This means it is broken and needs to be reworked. yes the assault suits need to be reworked not necessarily the logi ones except for caldari proto logi and its bonus Caldari Assault.... is the best assault suit. Would be nice if we had Damage as Bonus rather than reload speed.
CAELAN Andoril Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 7	Posted - 2013.05.16 14:21:00 - [30] - Quote I love my Minmatar Assault, simply because it has built-in armour repair. Yes, it's only 1 HP/s, but still. If I wait long enough with a bare dropsuit, I will eventually go back to full health. No one else can do the same unless they put modules on. The racial bonus isn't that fantastic with what I'm using [Flaylock Pistol], but I'll see if higher-tier variants with more ammo per clip will actually do anything. I still love the freaking thing, though.

G Sacred Rubber Chicken Bombers 83	Posted - 2013.05.16 14:29:00 - [31] - Quote Amarr Assault suits are walking tanks. They can solo many of the other dropsuits on the field. If a group of Amarr suits group up, the results are deadly. Minmatar have speed on their side. They would best be suited for hit and run tactics, and staying in groups would also provide a good benefit. Gallente are mainly armor tankers. They work best in groups and, due to their reduction to PG/CPU on hybrid weapons, can fit the best modules with the best weapons and the best equipment while still having room. Caldari are obvious shield tankers. One flux grenade and most Caldari suits are screwed. That being said, shields are a bit harder to take down than armor, so I would recommend staying at distance. Now this is my opinion. The Amarr suits are a little OP. Starting off with over 200 Base shields and armor if you have your skill up? Also that scrambler rifle seems to be the new go to weapon. I don't think its OP, but I don't see where its supposed to be specialized in. It works in ALL occasions. Since Amarr suits get a bonus to Laser heat dissipation (Yes the Scrambler rifle is a laser weapon) The scrambler rifle on an Amarr suit would be quite a formidable opponent. I know my AR cant stand up 1v1 to a scrambler rifle, provided the opponent can aim. I run Gallente suits at the moment and I have 355 armor and a 10hp/s armor rep with only Enhanced armor repairers. If I had a Gallente Assault gk.0 I could get 20hp/s, a duvolle, 355 armor, over 300 shields, and a nano. So Gallente aren't completely useless. I don't run Minmatar or Caldari so I cant speak to them.
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 230	Posted - 2013.05.16 14:32:00 - [32] - Quote G Sacred wrote: The Amarr suits are a little OP. Also that scrambler rifle seems to be the new go to weapon. amarr suits have less slots and TAR is still the best weapon, just saying.
Cody Sietz The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 116	Posted - 2013.05.16 14:33:00 - [33] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Gallante... So much Armor. So much it is,like being a really fast heavy. This. You can fit proto weapons with no problem (as long as they hybrid) I recommend 2 basic plates and a complex armour repper. Or a enhanced armour plate with 2 reppers of your choice.
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 1601	Posted - 2013.05.16 14:33:00 - [34] - Quote I don't always run Assault, but when I do, I run Amarr
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1535	Posted - 2013.05.16 15:47:00 - [35] - Quote Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: The Amarr Logistics suit is the best Assault Dropsuit. Balanced slots, balanced and high armour and shields, and a built-in armour repairer with a buff to any addiitonal repairers you equip. I said assault, not logistics. I have tried going logi but I end up chasing people trying to repair them and getting gunned down because I have no decent CQ sidearm... I know. Amarr Logi gets a Sidearm slot. It can operate effectively as an Assault suit. More effectively than Assault suits in some ways. Just because you have a Logi suit, doesn't mean you have to fit it for healing. Load up on Nanohives. Refer to my reply above this post as to why I am not spending 500,000 SP just to get a logi with sidearms... Logistics are meant for supporting others, I would rather go around killing people. Now get back on topic, which is the best assault dropsuit? I am NOT talking about logistics, so quit mentioning it. You are either a troll or ignorant. The name of the suit does not determine what it is best at. The bonuses and slot layout of the "Logistics Suit" are all better than those of the "Assault Suit" for the role of playing assault. Join the yellow jacket club.
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 515	Posted - 2013.05.16 16:05:00 - [36] - Quote Minmatar. With a basic catalyzer I have more sprint speed than a Gallente scout. I get an extra round in my Flaylock. I get several extra rounds in my scrambler pistol. My SMG has 100 rounds. I can tank shields with my 5 high slots and have a passive 1 HP/s armor repair rate without equipping anything. I am everything a scout should be, but with much more health. On the down side, I have very limited CPU, so I gotta be careful how I fit things. It's all hit and run in my line of work, gotta skirt the edges and make sure that I know when it's time to get gone.
Eskel Bondfree DUST University Ivy League 101	Posted - 2013.05.16 22:13:00 - [37] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: The name of the suit does not determine what it is best at. Well, ideally, that's how it should be


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