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Freshticles
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Posted - 2013.05.15 18:59:00 -
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What's the point?
You'll overheat and die at short range, lasers fill the role at mid range and gallente tac rifles have more range than them.
Overheat castrates the weapon and the tac doesn't have this drawback
Wasnt the more specialized damage and time to charge enough to balance this weapon? It didn't need a higher mag size, it does it no justice when you can only get 7 rounds off, and with the current state of aiming good luck hitting them.
However, my opinion might be tainted by the current iWin nature of the Tac. Hopefully when it gets toned down this weapon might have a place. |
Stefan Stahl
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.15 19:12:00 -
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Four words:
Charged scrambler rifle headshot.
That alone makes this weapon worth it: Approach corner, charge weapon, spot enemy, release button, +50 WP, smile. |
Freshticles
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Posted - 2013.05.15 19:19:00 -
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Stefan Stahl wrote:Four words:
Charged scrambler rifle headshot.
That alone makes this weapon worth it: Approach corner, charge weapon, spot enemy, release button, +50 WP, smile.
And good sir, how many of these do you get on moving targets?
If it was viable in the current state of messy hit detection and aiming acceleration, I would have mentioned it. |
Shadow Archeus
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2013.05.15 19:26:00 -
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It needs to be able to fire more shots before it overheats.....the assault variant needs more damage and needs to overheat after 30 shots |
Stefan Stahl
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.15 19:36:00 -
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Freshticles wrote:And good sir, how many of these do you get on moving targets?
If it was viable in the current state of messy hit detection and aiming acceleration, I would have mentioned it. I don't think you quite understood what I said. If the words "charged scrambler rifle headshot" don't make you smile then there must simply be no joy in your life. |
Tankin Tarkus
Quafe Runners
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Posted - 2013.05.15 19:48:00 -
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Shadow Archeus wrote:It needs to be able to fire more shots before it overheats.....the assault variant needs more damage and needs to overheat after 30 shots
actually from what i seen the assault variant has almost no kick i think thats a pretty fair trade for any lack of damage it might have |
Delirium Inferno
Edoras Corporation
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Posted - 2013.05.15 20:33:00 -
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I'm so confused where these 7's and 9's are coming from. I tried and tested the semi-auto Scrambler Rifle several times and I'm firing 15 before overheating. |
Spergin McBadposter
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Posted - 2013.05.15 20:41:00 -
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Delirium Inferno wrote:I'm so confused where these 7's and 9's are coming from. I tried and tested the semi-auto Scrambler Rifle several times and I'm firing 15 before overheating.
I'm getting similar. 17 shots to overheat while firing as fast as I could. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.15 21:08:00 -
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Get good, scrub. |
Freshticles
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Posted - 2013.05.15 22:14:00 -
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Spergin McBadposter wrote:Delirium Inferno wrote:I'm so confused where these 7's and 9's are coming from. I tried and tested the semi-auto Scrambler Rifle several times and I'm firing 15 before overheating. I'm getting similar. 17 shots to overheat while firing as fast as I could.
This is charging initial ( If you don't you may as well use a Tac AR) and firing the rest rapidly.
I suppose the actual gripe is the lack of role. Apart from the charge there is no reason to use it, and even then you can live without it. |
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Cinnamon267
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2013.05.15 22:25:00 -
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Overheating hasn't been an issue, for me. If you're overheating you're doing it wrong. Firing insanely after the charged shot is stupid, to be honest. Use it when you know you can take someone out. firing wildly afterwards isn't going to do anything for you. |
Jax Saurian
GunFall Mobilization
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Posted - 2013.05.16 00:06:00 -
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The only thing I think is wrong is that there is no skill which allows you to shoot more without overheating (which I agree isn't much of a problem but still).
I've seen people pwn countless others with the basic scrambler so I know it works. |
xSaloLx
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.05.16 00:22:00 -
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Jax Saurian wrote:The only thing I think is wrong is that there is no skill which allows you to shoot more without overheating (which I agree isn't much of a problem but still).
I've seen people pwn countless others with the basic scrambler so I know it works.
I believe the Amarr Assault DS overheat bonus extends to the SR. There's a thread about it in General Discussion. |
Atlas Exenthal
mnemonic.
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Posted - 2013.05.16 01:40:00 -
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Useless as long as TARs are the way they are.
Charge variant overheats too easily, and Auto variant doesn't overheat enough.
With that said, they both pretty much obsolete LRs, since unlike those, you can actually SEE what you're aiming at. |
Cinnamon267
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2013.05.16 02:40:00 -
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Atlas Exenthal wrote:Useless as long as TARs are the way they are.
Charge variant overheats too easily, and Auto variant doesn't overheat enough.
With that said, they both pretty much obsolete LRs, since unlike those, you can actually SEE what you're aiming at.
So far it hasn't made the LR obsolete, for me. I still use it and can see. |
Freshticles
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Posted - 2013.05.16 11:38:00 -
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Cinnamon267 wrote:Overheating hasn't been an issue, for me. If you're overheating you're doing it wrong. Firing insanely after the charged shot is stupid, to be honest. Use it when you know you can take someone out. firing wildly afterwards isn't going to do anything for you.
Then what, sit there like an idiot and let that guy you just shot know he's been compromised?
The gun is a joke, and talk tactics with it all you want the gun is castrated compared to ARs.
Do you see Tac users having to time their shots? Oh, I was going to kill someone but this little red bar says I can't shoot.
No, they get it done and get the kill. |
Jack McReady
DUST University
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Posted - 2013.05.16 11:47:00 -
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Stefan Stahl wrote:Four words:
Charged scrambler rifle headshot.
That alone makes this weapon worth it: Approach corner, charge weapon, spot enemy, release button, +50 WP, smile.
you can do the same with the scrambler pistol, except you dont have to charge it.
the charged SR fires LESS shots than the pistol has per reload before overheating. cooling down takes also long as reloading the pistol if I am not mistaken. what is the point of the charged SR it again?
might aswell take the TAR and pistol as sidearm getting best of all. |
Zeylon Rho
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Posted - 2013.05.17 08:41:00 -
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Change the "charge time" passive to Heat Build-up reduction, and you've got a bonus that is good for both weapon variants (that doesn't require a specific dropsuit skill). |
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