is because they like this game. Stop calling them whiners and crybabies. We all really, really like this game, and we want it to be good. If we bought it was a piece of **** we would just stop playing it, not go on the forums and talk about what we would change. So stop getting angry at people with comments, concerns, and suggestions, because at the end of the day we all just want to see Dust do as well as possible, and if that means being a little frank in our criticisms, then so be it.

1 - It-¦s free.
2 - It-¦s anonymous
3 - Anyone with a PS3 can create a fake account
4 - There are infiltrated saboteurs and paid commenters to try to ruin the game before it gets it-¦s critical mass
5 - It is interesting for the competition to insert faulty feedback and waste devs time
6 - Some people don-¦t have anything better to do
7 - Some people like the source of attention

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Oh come on. Saying that people with complaints are conducting industrial espionage? Sounds like you've been playing EVE too much :p

Then the people whining are doing horrific damage to a game they apprently like. It's like punching your mate Gf because u like hereher. Makes no logical sense and everyone thinks your an ass hole :-P

Oh come on. Saying that people with complaints are conducting industrial espionage? Sounds like you've been playing EVE too much :p

Oh come on. Saying that people with complaints are conducting industrial espionage? Sounds like you've been playing EVE too much :p

Sounds like you're incredibly naive. nVidia sponsors games (The way it's meant to be played) and gets the game optimized for their hardware, meaning that ATI/AMD lose out on performance on those games. The opposite is also true. This is a not-so-subtle form of espionage, albeit legal.

IGN and Gamestop have been accused of hyping games before they were released, of being paid reviewers for godawful games. It's rife in the gaming industry, and doesn't need to be done by a gaming website, it can be done for very little expenses, considering that making an account on any gaming website is free, and commenting is also free, meaning you can discourage any new players coming to the game for very little expense, and little to no risk of being caught.

is because they like this game. Stop calling them whiners and crybabies. We all really, really like this game, and we want it to be good. If we got and it was a piece of **** we would just stop playing it, not go on the forums and talk about what we would change. So stop getting angry at people with comments, concerns, and suggestions, because at the end of the day we all just want to see Dust do as well as possible, and if that means being a little frank in our criticisms, then so be it.

Ridiculous. The people on the opposite side of the fence from you are the people saying CCP is going on metacritic and writing fake positive reviews.

1 - It-¦s free.
2 - It-¦s anonymous
3 - Anyone with a PS3 can create a fake account
4 - There are infiltrated saboteurs and paid commenters to try to ruin the game before it gets it-¦s critical mass
5 - It is interesting for the competition to insert faulty feedback and waste devs time
6 - Some people don-¦t have anything better to do
7 - Some people like the source of attention

Its nice to see a healthy tin foil hat community in dust

is because they like this game. Stop calling them whiners and crybabies. We all really, really like this game, and we want it to be good. If we got and it was a piece of **** we would just stop playing it, not go on the forums and talk about what we would change. So stop getting angry at people with comments, concerns, and suggestions, because at the end of the day we all just want to see Dust do as well as possible, and if that means being a little frank in our criticisms, then so be it.

is because they like this game. Stop calling them whiners and crybabies. We all really, really like this game, and we want it to be good. If we got and it was a piece of **** we would just stop playing it, not go on the forums and talk about what we would change. So stop getting angry at people with comments, concerns, and suggestions, because at the end of the day we all just want to see Dust do as well as possible, and if that means being a little frank in our criticisms, then so be it.

Yeah but you remind me of the casuals who stepped into the Souls franchise when Dark Souls came out who did nothing but complain the game was too hard for them or they didnt want to bother learning the necessary play styles needed not to get beaten in PvP.

The game is good and I know that most people like it but we dont need to have all of this negativoty on the forums...sometimes we just need to accept that this is how its going to be for some time before things get better. After playing CCP's games for a while now I know that they will only get better.

Criticism is always welcome, and REQUIRED for the game to improve. No one is questioning the content of the feedback, but the FORM of the feedback.

So basically, you want less incompetent fools to show up in a forum on the internet?

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Good luck with that?

But those arguments are against the core mechanics of the Dark souls, or what makes it what it is. Arguments against balance or clumsy controls are completely different.

And further more how can CCP know what to fix and for what reason if everyone just stays quite?

I know and this isnt a good argument I'll admit but it just feels so similar.

I respect those who give constructive feed back, threads that actually discuss mechanics and suggest ways to re balance things. I dont like seeing people complain and demand re balances.

Big difference being that one is a polite and typically well fleshed out and organised thread....the other is full of trolls and complainers with no suggestions capitalising on anothers thread.

But my original post was wholly referring to people who criticize and comment out of a love of the game, and a desire to see it get better and grow.

Why would I defend trolls?

Hope. Makes us human, really. Too bad most of the time it's in vain.

Why would I defend trolls?

-nerf all niche weapons for even less variety in combat
-release "new map" thats just an old map with a building in the middle of it
-replace dropship and tank armor with gold leaf, simultaneously quadrupling the price and reducing combat survivability by 300%
-50% buff to all Duvolle assault rifle stats
-20% reduction in the sharpness and load time of all textures
-Fill nanite injectors with maple syrup
-replace all current maps with even smaller versions
-replace mass drivers with marshmallow guns


Additionally, a new tutorial video will play upon character creation that gives detailed instructions on how to call in an LAV, get in it, and drive around the map the entire game trying to run people over