The scrambler rifle received the buff to keep its DPS inline with the gallente assault rifle. The flaylock and plasma cannon did not receive the buff because they were not in Chromosome and were balanced after the weaponry skill bonus was removed.

The scrambler rifle received the buff to keep its DPS inline with the gallente assault rifle. The flaylock and plasma cannon did not receive the buff because they were not in Chromosome and were balanced after the weaponry skill bonus was removed.

The scrambler rifle received the buff to keep its DPS inline with the gallente assault rifle. The flaylock and plasma cannon did not receive the buff because they were not in Chromosome and were balanced after the weaponry skill bonus was removed.

So, you're saying that the Flaylock and Plasma Rifle were balanced against weapons that did 10% less than now. Seems legit to just leave them alone then.

Maybe you should give this a second look, and oh yeah, that range thing. Thats' a thing. Perhaps you should work that in to your balancing because that seems to be an issue with the TAR at the moment. Long range weapons really ought to do less dps than short range ones for balancing purposes, right?

So, you're saying that the Flaylock and Plasma Rifle were balanced against weapons that did 10% less than now. Seems legit to just leave them alone then.

Maybe you should give this a second look, and oh yeah, that range thing. Thats' a thing. Perhaps you should work that in to your balancing because that seems to be an issue with the TAR at the moment. Long range weapons really ought to do less dps than short range ones for balancing purposes, right?

TAR is a finicky subject though. Too little damage and the range bonus doesn't offset the skill required to use it, being as it is a single shot after all. I mean, it's like trying to say that Sniper Rifles should do the least amount of damage because they have the longest range but there's a lot of skill required in their use.

Now, this isn't to say that the TAR isn't OP as ****. It was okay before the 10% increase as it was much harder to put people down (and that works both ways!) but now that we're back to the twitch shooter BS it's a little too powerful at what it does.

Drop it down 10% (I SAID 10% CCP, NOT 60%) and see how it works. Nerfs/Buffs should go in slowly, not just shoved in there and hoped for the best. I'm still pissed they up and decided that Starter LAVs needed to survive (one-shot) against anything that's not Proto AV.

TAR is a finicky subject though. Too little damage and the range bonus doesn't offset the skill required to use it, being as it is a single shot after all. I mean, it's like trying to say that Sniper Rifles should do the least amount of damage because they have the longest range but there's a lot of skill required in their use.

Now, this isn't to say that the TAR isn't OP as ****. It was okay before the 10% increase as it was much harder to put people down (and that works both ways!) but now that we're back to the twitch shooter BS it's a little too powerful at what it does.

Drop it down 10% (I SAID 10% CCP, NOT 60%) and see how it works. Nerfs/Buffs should go in slowly, not just shoved in there and hoped for the best. I'm still pissed they up and decided that Starter LAVs needed to survive (one-shot) against anything that's not Proto AV.

In any case, all of the weapons should have gotten the 10% buff because all of the weapons were "balanced" before the buff.

The scrambler rifle received the buff to keep its DPS inline with the gallente assault rifle. The flaylock and plasma cannon did not receive the buff because they were not in Chromosome and were balanced after the weaponry skill bonus was removed.

Yeah... something went wrong in that train of thought...

Like with the part were everything else got buffed so having them set to the old damage standard makes no sense

So, you're saying...

Pre-buff AR = Flaylock (At least as closely as a sideweapon and main weapon can be "balanced")
Buffed AR > Flaylock

Somehow I'm not sure how that slipped past CCP

I interpreted Remnant's words to mean they balanced those weapons for Uprising, because that's when the weaponry skill bonus (2% damage per level) was removed, and the 10% bonus to weaponry was put in place. Is that not what he meant?

I interpreted Remnant's words to mean they balanced those weapons for Uprising, because that's when the weaponry skill bonus (2% damage per level) was removed, and the 10% bonus to weaponry was put in place. Is that not what he meant?

You just confused me

It's simple, if the Flaylock we saw at Fanfest was considered "balanced"(which it may or may not have been, but that's irrelevant), then the Flaylock we have now is not because it and the plasma cannon didn't get buffed alongside every other weapon in the game.

Fanfest Flaylock = Fanfest Scambler Pistol = Fanfest SMG (at least that's the idea)
Fanfest Flaylock < Current Scrambler Pistol = Current SMG
Fanfest Flaylock = Current Flaylock.

Edit: And the 10% came after Fanfest, along with the HMG hotfix

The scrambler rifle received the buff to keep its DPS inline with the gallente assault rifle. The flaylock and plasma cannon did not receive the buff because they were not in Chromosome and were balanced after the weaponry skill bonus was removed.

sounds great put your forgot to balance out the range thus AR is still king

What's the range? I've never used it

Assault SR is around 30m optimal while AR is around 40m optimal. Same ratio for TAR/semi-auto SR.

You got that right about the LAV's...The LAV is like a sneaky ass ninja with mega health now, it would help if they allow the AV grenades to be trown a little faster, or perhaps a module that reduces impact DMG recieved.

Dunno about the Plasma Cannon but you can give my FP a 5% buff

Plasma cannon sucks

Honestly, the flaylock doesn't really need a damage buff, maybe just a bit more splash range.
I just fail to see CCP's logic here