If Skirmish wasn't there, maybe I'd agree with keeping K/D, but considering how ANYONE can so effortlessly just, say, snipe a few people, then hide away for the rest of the match in an area the enemy can't reach (something I've unfortunately seen far too often.), K/D seems like something pointless to track.

Not to mention that unlike in many shooters, kills are not the only/ main thing to do in Dust, what happens to people that focus on Hacking, Healing, Spawning, Supplying, Piloting, Anti-Vehicle/ Installations, and now also Scanning?

People who focus on most of those things are as useful as the players that focus on fighting, and they don't even have to kill to ensure a victory for their team.
(Tho that doesn't mean they can't kill of course, just that its not their main focus.)

However War Points Per Minute also seems like a bad idea, considering that different playstyles also mean different amounts of WP gain at different rates.
A (useful) Sniper, a Logi, and an Assault for example, are all going to have extremely varied WPPM and will not provide an accurate reflection of the player's abilities either, not to mention that, as some have said before, WPPM could also be manipulated somewhat easily.


I was thinking on some other recommendations that could do instead, but honestly the ones I could think of were just as manipulable.

I don't know, I just know that neither K/D or WPPM are really useful in a game such as Dust, tho I'm sure there's something out there that is.

Why would it be WP//per minute? where u get this per minute stuff? PER GAME

Can we quit tracking this stat? PLEASE, consider replacing KDR with War Points per minute (WPPM or WP/M or simply WPM).

Just make KDR statistics private. It is not the KDR that makes people leaving teamplay for higher stats, it's public leaderboards

...Corporations idealy want a Merc who kills more than he dies, destroys more enemy gear than he loses, accomplishes a lot of objectives between deaths and does so rapidly, and consistently is a top contributer to mission objectives. Only governments don't care about efficiency.

KDR is actually a harmful statistic in a team based game like Dust. It should be removed or replaced with ISK destroyed vs ISK lost.

I think it should be up to the player if he/she want's their KDR shown.

We could all just ignore it.

Problem solved.

Just make KDR statistics private. It is not the KDR that makes people leaving teamplay for higher stats, it's public leaderboards

Completely agree. K\D is a stat that shows me absolutely nothing.

I've let my K\D go to **** in games because i've been determined to set up a Spawn Beacon that then went on to win us the game. I've hung back and protected that same beacon with a shotgun and lingered around it meaning I only get 2-3 kills at most... I've thrown myself at tanks, hurling AV grenades knowing i'm going to fu*k it up enough for the guy behind me to finish it off.

I'm an immortal soldier with an unlimited reserve of clones. I have millions of ISK to fund my own personal armory... why do I care if I die, if I wake up again 5 seconds later with another suit and gun?

Take out K\D and replace it with Points Per Min, just like BF3. BF3 players scoff if you mention your KD to them, because they don't care. K\D means NOTHING. The _only_ thing that matters is how much you support your team.

Immortal space-faring demi-gods care little for how many times they died. Only how many times they won.

Pretty sure that BF3 players are quite obsessed with their KD ratios.

2. The degree of their usefulness (i.e. averaging 7 kills per death indicates a play style much more effective than that of someone with 1 kill per 2 deaths)