Hah, Mass Driver. Funny.

Man you're a whole new level of special.

Big bold lettters, just for you since you can't read either.

WEAPON RANGES REDUCED
TEAMS CLOSER TOGETHER
MEATGRINDER GAMEPLAY

I use the MD and yes its a bit dodgy at the moment thanks to a glitch but its still useful for scattering, if heavies really are running in groups of 12 plus (a scene I have yet to see) AOE weapons are the answer see 12 fatguys waddling at you run round corner drop some RE's run a bit more and get an orbital from 2 RE's lol.

Plus heavies are slow and even though the AR has had a range nerf it still has more range than the HMG so use hit and run tactics.

Then dont feed the Grinder Meat, If you are a Meaty blob running into a Meat GRINDING blob then the problem is not the Grinder, but the Meat



and in case you didnt understand hear it is in BOLD

MEAT = YOU

All I'm going to say is go try that in ambush, you'll learn.

I use the MD and yes its a bit dodgy at the moment thanks to a glitch but its still useful for scattering, if heavies really are running in groups of 12 plus (a scene I have yet to see) AOE weapons are the answer see 12 fatguys waddling at you run round corner drop some RE's run a bit more and get an orbital from 2 RE's lol.

Plus heavies are slow and even though the AR has had a range nerf it still has more range than the HMG so use hit and run tactics.

Again what about all the other options people have suggested grenades and the like.

Also about "Game Breaking Strategies." Isnt that the point of strategy to figure out new ways to get ahead.

Just as a bonus as well last build a remember a certain corp I played against in a few games when ever it was manus peak they would get to the mountain and a heavy using a Thale would take up residence along with a logi contantly reping him for guardian points and to make him virtually unkillable, the other two in the squad would provide AV and anti infantry on those trying to take him out, Now is that a "Game Breaking Strategy."?

You bring shame to your family with how poorly you troll.

Never did I say they received a "major buff", you fabricated that to strawman the argument in your favor - such is the nature of your collective.

A 5% dispersion buff means that more rounds land on target - increasing the damage output. Hopefully I don't have to break down the math for you because then I'd have just typed out a bunch of BS for you to completely ignore anyway.

The topic isn't about the HMGs - they're just a symptom - they're effectiveness is spot on for what they're supposed to accomplish, HOWEVER: the way the weapon ranges are at current puts everyone into large blobs. Combine that with 12+ players using the HMG combo and you've got the meatgrinder from hell. Unless you chose to completely ****ing ignore that and be a troll, which I see you did.

Edit: Being as the teams are gathering in the way that they are - that might explain why the damage/range was reduced from last build in the first place, or did you somehow forget that when you were trying to extend your e-peen?

I just saying, the game was fine before the 10% weapon boost, it just needed some fixing here and there....That was a very stupid decision, that i hope CCP corrects SooN.

What about the strategy I observed, heavy swarms are game breaking was the strategy I outlined game breaking aswell?

I know the issue in this thread is the TC says heavy swarms are game breaking and when people gave a list of counters it changed to the game was fine before the +10% so its kind of hard to tell what the point has devolved into.

Plus the strat or exploit I pointed out was perform regularly by a squad from your corp so complaining some one uses game breaking strategies when your corp has also done this is a bit rich.

Is lots of people in my corp, some of them i don't even know, because they play in a different time zone. I can't and will not, talk for everyone in my Corp. I talking in a independent personal level.