ahhh sweet sweet peasent tears.

Simple message, my 6.6 million SP is useless. If you want to spend more than (currency)hundred in a few months on the game buy boosters and CCP will lick your ass with limits. With the new extreme increase price of SP on weapons, skills, modules etc. my SP is useless. With the frequente new builds coming it will be impossible to catch up on new gear, if i go on at the same rate as i have been playing it will take me another 3 months to hit 12 million which people with boosters have now. So the next good FPS that hits i'm gone, i suggest everyone without boosters does the same.

in a few months on the game buy boosters and CCP will lick your ass with limits..

Simple message, my 6.6 million SP is useless. If you want to spend more than (currency)hundred in a few months on the game buy boosters and CCP will lick your ass with limits. With the new extreme increase price of SP on weapons, skills, modules etc. my SP is useless. With the frequente new builds coming it will be impossible to catch up on new gear, if i go on at the same rate as i have been playing it will take me another 3 months to hit 12 million which people with boosters have now. So the next good FPS that hits i'm gone, i suggest everyone without boosters does the same.

You people dont get it to play at a high level you need a lot of SP, i could have 2 mil and beat scrubs

Simple message, my 6.6 million SP is useless. If you want to spend more than (currency)hundred in a few months on the game buy boosters and CCP will lick your ass with limits. With the new extreme increase price of SP on weapons, skills, modules etc. my SP is useless. With the frequente new builds coming it will be impossible to catch up on new gear, if i go on at the same rate as i have been playing it will take me another 3 months to hit 12 million which people with boosters have now. So the next good FPS that hits i'm gone, i suggest everyone without boosters does the same.

ahhh sweet sweet peasent tears.

Oh no, this is terrible... a company trying to make a profit, but still giving other players a chance to play for free. If there is one thing I will give CCP credit for, is that it has given players a way to play for free. Entitled much?

In EVE, you can grind isk to buy in game time from players who choose to buy plex cards. It's pay to play, whether it be IRL money or isk.

In Dust, you can simply play with full disclosure as to what the limits on SP are without any monetary investment and what gains can be had with three levels of monetary investment (whether it be passive or active or both).

They have and they also used the term its not pay to win to try and cheat people into the game which is their biggest lie

The game is just ****, and these "I do just fine" stories are bullshit. Fight a full Proto squad of SI/IMP/PFBHz. I'm out.

The game is just ****, and these "I do just fine" stories are bullshit. Fight a full Proto squad of SI/IMP/PFBHz. I'm out.

If you can't deal with people who have been grinding since closed beta being better than you can I have your stuff?

Besides a grenade takes out any kind of suit just like that.

@Shelhead
Yeah, what grenade does 800 damage? You can't have my stuff, because I have deleted Dust. Maybe you simply don't play againt good players, and simply run away throwing grenades. Good luck tacking objectives in PC.

Good players... SI beat you twice dont put yourself above our level

I guess thats why you guys are always bitching up a storm on the forum right?

Good players can complain, bad players dont see whats wrong

I guess you should stick to the forums then, where you're clearly a great player.

I only have 4.5 million SP and I'm loving my current suits. I got a great Gallente medium frame prototype and and more than sufficient standard logi suit (in fact the standard logi suit is nearly as good as my basic proto because all the stuff they've given logis that I don't even feel I need the advanced or proto version. It's got 100 shield, 400 armor, 7 repair rate, and all the equipment I need.

You don't need 10 million SP to have fun.

Lol. This is why I've been saying this game will fail.

It can't work like EVE. The console crowd is not going to stick around 3 months to grind SP. CCP is trying to add brains to game that should be stupid, quick fun. If ppl can't be on par going in they will laugh and move on.

This is not the EVE crowd CCP. You picked the wrong platform.

I'm probably the one percent of EVE players that will hang on long enough.

Lol. This is why I've been saying this game will fail.

It can't work like EVE. The console crowd is not going to stick around 3 months to grind SP. CCP is trying to add brains to game that should be stupid, quick fun. If ppl can't be on par going in they will laugh and move on.

This is not the EVE crowd CCP. You picked the wrong platform.

I'm probably the one percent of EVE players that will hang on long enough.

This feel like someone messed up is skill distribution.

With that much SP,
You can get proto suit
with armor plates and shield
with proto guns
with even gun prof.
with some grenades and some core skills
And even side weapon skills almost to proto

Anyway, you'll always have people with higher rank than you do. But from that point, it is more a matter of skills than the few dissadvantages you got.

Between 2M and 10M I would agree, but the gap is closing when getting over 5M, that is if you specialize.

6 million SP here, I've got a prototype DS with prototype shield extenders, prototype shield booster, prototype shield amplifier, prototype power diagnostic units, and prototype missiles. In 300K I'll have prototype blasters too.

By the way, have you ever explored the possibility of getting decent all around rather than getting a tac duvolle and a caldari proto logi suit and then realizing you have no other skills?

Exactly. Core skills + advanced suit to fit some proto + advanced mods and weapons is pretty cheap, and isnt too far behind proto suits.

Exactly. I do agree with people saying that theres a huge gap between new players with only half a mil SP and no corp to help them. They're are just going to get torn to shreds and leave/

But 6.6 million is more then enough to make you competitive and then some.

im not comparing myself to new players but to good experienced players

Yes, there is a new player issue for sure. Though I think that has more to do with the elite corp pub stomping and no matchmaking than skills and loadouts. A militia nade, militia AR still do a solid job of tearing apart most suits.

But a new player joining a game where an elite corp just stomps with 75 clones left at the end? Not fun. And the new guy has no idea that the reason it happened was because the other team consisted of two full squads, one from Imperfects, one from Pink Fluffy Bunnies.

Plus the lack of a super large playerbase means if they just play again right away they have a solid chance of playing with those same players... more stomps. Then they leave and never come back.

Simple message, my 6.6 million SP is useless. If you want to spend more than (currency)hundred in a few months on the game buy boosters and CCP will lick your ass with limits. With the new extreme increase price of SP on weapons, skills, modules etc. my SP is useless. With the frequente new builds coming it will be impossible to catch up on new gear, if i go on at the same rate as i have been playing it will take me another 3 months to hit 12 million which people with boosters have now. So the next good FPS that hits i'm gone, i suggest everyone without boosters does the same.

Or you could just have a "Training Gametype" with vastly reduced ISK payouts. Maybe slightly reduced SP as well (maybe not though). Payouts of 20K-50K instead of 200-500, good players would stay away, without the need for any sort of automatic filters. New players would see training, join it, and not even realize they are getting less ISK and/or SP at first.

Also, no stats would count for it. Eliminating the desire to stomp to pad stats.

I love how these Seraphim Initiative guys have quit, but still come to the forums of the game that they hate and quit. THEN they boast about their skill, and tell you not to put yourself ABOVE them, when, in fact, they're quitters of a BETA. The irony is staggering.

I've only been playing for 4 days and I've killed more than a handful of them several times. Seems they're too focused on points and not reflexes. How many of you Seraphim tools uses a controller? I'm willing to bet more than a few.

lern2play

ahhh sweet sweet peasent tears.

Simple message, my 6.6 million SP is useless. If you want to spend more than (currency)hundred in a few months on the game buy boosters and CCP will lick your ass with limits. With the new extreme increase price of SP on weapons, skills, modules etc. my SP is useless. With the frequente new builds coming it will be impossible to catch up on new gear, if i go on at the same rate as i have been playing it will take me another 3 months to hit 12 million which people with boosters have now. So the next good FPS that hits i'm gone, i suggest everyone without boosters does the same.

Simple message, my 6.6 million SP is useless. If you want to spend more than (currency)hundred in a few months on the game buy boosters and CCP will lick your ass with limits. With the new extreme increase price of SP on weapons, skills, modules etc. my SP is useless. With the frequente new builds coming it will be impossible to catch up on new gear, if i go on at the same rate as i have been playing it will take me another 3 months to hit 12 million which people with boosters have now. So the next good FPS that hits i'm gone, i suggest everyone without boosters does the same.

Really the OP is carebearing too much. I have spent 0 money and I have 7.6 mill (have only missed a couple caps) and I am definitely competitive in this game.