lol really? should i start buying these and abusing them?

Its not that much more than the militia scrambler pistol which fires just as quickly and as accurately and you dont see people screaming to nerf that

Oh look, they actually have a use now.

Its not that much more than the militia scrambler pistol which fires just as quickly and as accurately and you dont see people screaming to nerf that

militia scrambler pistol is not able to hit targets at 80m range and has 11 shots per reload at max. fail comparison is fail.

To be fair, as a relatively new player I'm doing better with the GLU-5 Tac rifle than I've ever done and the only gun I fear in an assaults hands is the Duvolle Tac. Tac rifles are top dog in this build (imho).

Tac rifles are top dog in this build (imho).

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Oh, how cute.
I don't play COD, Battlefield, or anything like that.
You people don't see the 514 problems this game has that never existed in chromosome, and you blindly defend CCP because... well, drones.

Its not that much more than the militia scrambler pistol which fires just as quickly and as accurately and you dont see people screaming to nerf that

I'm not defending CCP here, they actually did some serious mistakes with this build, and if the TAR is the only weapon which owns now means we have 2 options right now:
Option 1:
Every weapon is broken, except for the TAR
Option 2
The TAR is to strong.

Now make your choice.

The TAR is strong.
What I said before didn't mean the weapon is fine.
It meant that it finally has a use.
Though CCP forgot how it was before the nerf and overbuffed the weapon.

Oh, how cute.
I don't play COD, Battlefield, or anything like that.
You people don't see the 514 problems this game has that never existed in chromosome, and you blindly defend CCP because... well, drones.

lol, it is the weapon with the most range, right after the Sniper Rifles.

Last build everybody was complaining about the lasers, now you have a weapon which is even more OP then the Laser used to be but thats okay, simply because its an AR? Seriously? You all were complaining about the lasers, and right now, the TAR IS the laser.

CCP has to do something about this.
Nerf the range, or nerf the dmg, or nerf the shooting frequency. Or do it like they did it to the laser: nerf every statistic this weapon has :D

The game feels now very different and I think most of the weapons are balanced because they are all quiet weak, even the protos.
The problem with this is that the TAR stands out so much from this. So we have to make all weapons this powerful, or simply nerf this one weapon, your decision CCP.

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It still has pretty crazy recoil on its shots.

Can we be friends :)

I dunno.

I've been trying to use it, it was semi successfull. The odd part is that its for me a very good cqc weapon, much better than the Duvolle. To land enough shots at distance though, especially on a moving target is very hard and only the very best manages to pull it off.

I am however very weary of bringing down the nerf hammer too soon. Do we want to go back to 90% of players using a Gek or a Duvolle?

I have to do some more testing but it seems to me that I don't have gun game enough (Just ask any Imp, I'm just a scrub...) to use it more effectively than I can with a 60 bullet AR, I don't think its right to ask for a nerf on that basis....

So far I've been shot a lot by tac ARs but they seldom kill me and they're almost useless at supression compared to the old laser, a little zig zagging and bunny hopping makes me close the distance in most chases without taking too much damage.

Let it be for now, its too early to tell.

I just wanted to add my two cents in the matter. First, the TAC does not have a further range than the standard AR. They are the same distance.

There is big difference between a TAR and a Laser. You don't just slice your enemy under 2 seconds as lasers did. You'd actually have to aim and put it multiple shots. Nerf? Phhh... Why ? Killing you too many times? Pick one up and see if it's as easy as Lasers used to be....

First, the TAC does not have a further range than the standard AR. They are the same distance.

you are wrong and should feel bad for it.

proto Assault Rifle
Max Range: 71m
Optimal Range: 1 - 42m
Meta: 8


proto Tactical Assault Rifle
Max Range: 100m
Optimal Range: 1 - 65m
Meta: 9

you are wrong and should feel bad for it.

proto Assault Rifle
Max Range: 71m
Optimal Range: 1 - 42m
Meta: 8


proto Tactical Assault Rifle
Max Range: 100m
Optimal Range: 1 - 65m
Meta: 9

I just wanted to add my two cents in the matter. First, the TAC does not have a further range than the standard AR. They are the same distance...

you are wrong and should feel bad for it.

proto Assault Rifle
Max Range: 71m
Optimal Range: 1 - 42m
Meta: 8


proto Tactical Assault Rifle
Max Range: 100m
Optimal Range: 1 - 65m
Meta: 9

Yeah im 99% sure the TAC has a longer range than the standard ARs.

TAC + Scrambler is god at almost any range.

However lets be careful to avoid calling the TAC OP until we see the role scrambler rifles will play. I predict the scrambler rifle will be a slightly less damage, less kick, more range, TAC AR. In which case, youll see the battlefield dominated by both TAC AR and Scrambler Rifles, with normal ARs being more of a mid/ CQ role.

The thing about the TAC is if you get the drop on someone its less of an auto win than the regular AR because due to kick the effective DPS is lower. If I get the drop on someone with the standard ARs, they are dead before they can react. With the TAC, they can usually start running or turn around before I can get enough shots in due to kick.

Now...they are still likely very dead. But just saying, there are draw backs to it. It requires more skill to use. Hitting moving/strafing targets is harder cause you cant just spray at them. Personally I love the combat in this game with TAC rifles dominating compared to what it was before with standard rifles.

The old rifles felt more of a toss up 1on1, these feel like the better player wins.

It still has pretty crazy recoil on its shots.

I'm no sure what the numbers are ( CCP most have some data ) but i'm pretty sure allot more people is using the Duvolle AR than the Tactical... it most be a reason for that... don't you think ?

I stopped reading after that. You are absolutely wrong:

Tac AR = 110m/71m optimal (and that was the standard version that no loner exists - the others are even further).

AR = 78m/35 optimal

Could someone please link the weapon effective ranges thread for this guy. I keep forgetting to favorite that damned thing.

Either they have no skill or no modded controller.

Was already linked to which i acknowledge being wrong, however your stats are off as well. You increased the TAC ranges a bit and decreased the AR ranges.

Yah they must have updated the thread with the new stats for uprising already. Those were the old stats though.

Yah they must have updated the thread with the new stats for uprising already. Those were the old stats though.

you are wrong and should feel bad for it.

proto Assault Rifle
Max Range: 71m
Optimal Range: 1 - 42m
Meta: 8


proto Tactical Assault Rifle
Max Range: 100m
Optimal Range: 1 - 65m
Meta: 9