CCP should remove all equipment slots from assault suits, just to make things fair

Seriously, stop trying to nerf logi suits and try to get CCP to fix assault suits. I sympathize, you made a mistake by going assault and got screwed by CCP, but stop taking it out on players who chose suits based on stats rather than name.

I would say try out the standard assault MD and say that again but we don't have it anymore.

1. Any weapons will have 35% extra CPU/PG cost on a logi, so they could defend themselves, but going high tier will cripple them.
2. The rep bonus won't apply unless they have a remote rep on them, to encourage them to use it.
--3hp/s for standard rep, 4hp/s for advanced, 5hp/s for proto.
3. Remove Caldari logi shield bonus, this is ridiculous lol
4. Any damage mods will have extra 50% CPU/PG cost.


--By doing this, Logis can still make killer suits, but they will lose the versatility in the battlefield that being a logi usually offers.
--Logis can still go hybrid (both a slayer and support), though they won't be half as effective doing so.
--Logis can still go support and having versatility if they go for low level weaponry and don't fit damage mods.

Logis should be supporting their team, so if they're on the frontline taking fire they're doing it wrong.

This is how I want the Logi suits to be like in more detail:
The Caldari Assault has 4 high, 3 low and 1 equipment slot.
The Caldari Logi has 5 high, 4 low and 3 equipment slots.

The Caldari Logi should have 3 high, 2 low and 3 equipment slots.

Do the same for the other racial suits.

Just curious, Mr Cat, but do you play EVE? That game shows the mindset of the DEVs very well. Now, have you heard of a Rorqual? It's a giant mining vessel, a hub ship that condenses ore for all the Exhumers who do the actual mining. Its bonuses make it unmatched at its role, but they also help it in a different way.... have you ever heard of a Battle Rorqual?

**** you. I'm tired of all the AR bitches wanting to make this game into AR 514. No, the AR assault user does not need to be the uber machine all you dicks seem to want it to be. I see the vast majority of the battlefield to be AR using assaults. Once that changes, you are allowed to ***** about other setups. Until then stfu , and adapt.

Nerf Logi's? Are you kidding?
They already got a huge nerf when you have to pay 2.5 SP just to be a Basic logi, 6 mil sp for proto. All the other classes got it easy in the dropsuit department, they can just skill into basic, and stop at basic proto. After that their are other better things to put your sp into when you don't have massive amounts of SP. The Assault/scout/heavy Tier 2 bonuses at the cost of 4mil SP are not really worth it, unless you have extra SP to blow.

Logi's are rare enough these days, and no new player is going to be a logi anytime soon.

ITT: Skilless and static playstyles crying about not being as OP as before the new build came out. I had my effective skill set chopped to about 2/3's after the new build due to skill tree and SP cost changes but I didn't start thread whining about it, nor did I start a thread using that as a reason to nerf everybody else to even out my disadvantage. Anybody with half a brain would realize that logis should be able to pack more gear and thus, PG and CPU. Also anybody crying that the guys that keep them alive and stocked with ammo are too good at doing their job needs to get their head checked.

Show no love for Carebear-thugs.

1. Any weapons will have 35% extra CPU/PG cost on a logi, so they could defend themselves, but going high tier will cripple them.
2. The rep bonus won't apply unless they have a remote rep on them, to encourage them to use it.
--3hp/s for standard rep, 4hp/s for advanced, 5hp/s for proto.
3. Remove Caldari logi shield bonus, this is ridiculous lol
4. Any damage mods will have extra 50% CPU/PG cost.


--By doing this, Logis can still make killer suits, but they will lose the versatility in the battlefield that being a logi usually offers.
--Logis can still go hybrid (both a slayer and support), though they won't be half as effective doing so.
--Logis can still go support and having versatility if they go for low level weaponry and don't fit damage mods.

1. Any weapons will have 35% extra CPU/PG cost on a logi, so they could defend themselves, but going high tier will cripple them.
2. The rep bonus won't apply unless they have a remote rep on them, to encourage them to use it.
--3hp/s for standard rep, 4hp/s for advanced, 5hp/s for proto.
3. Remove Caldari logi shield bonus, this is ridiculous lol
4. Any damage mods will have extra 50% CPU/PG cost.



--By doing this, Logis can still make killer suits, but they will lose the versatility in the battlefield that being a logi usually offers.
--Logis can still go hybrid (both a slayer and support), though they won't be half as effective doing so.
--Logis can still go support and having versatility if they go for low level weaponry and don't fit damage mods.

1. Any weapons will have 35% extra CPU/PG cost on a logi, so they could defend themselves, but going high tier will cripple them.
2. The rep bonus won't apply unless they have a remote rep on them, to encourage them to use it.
--3hp/s for standard rep, 4hp/s for advanced, 5hp/s for proto.
3. Remove Caldari logi shield bonus, this is ridiculous lol
4. Any damage mods will have extra 50% CPU/PG cost.


--By doing this, Logis can still make killer suits, but they will lose the versatility in the battlefield that being a logi usually offers.
--Logis can still go hybrid (both a slayer and support), though they won't be half as effective doing so.
--Logis can still go support and having versatility if they go for low level weaponry and don't fit damage mods.

I guess you have never heard of a combat logi, someone who not only helps support the team but also fights back. If your idiotic plan goes into effect, what sane person would stay logi, then what, when no one is there to support you what will you do then. Cry the entire time because a scrub like you had to rely on logis the entire time. Go ahead and eliminate logis, I can't wait to see all of you cry how much you needed us.

The one great thing about logis are the fact they can be versatile. There is no one way to be a logi and that is what makes this game so fascinating. If you are that afraid to fight someone who is a shield tank then figure out how to beat them instead of complaining. It's people like you who have already destroyed this game, it's people like you who convinced CCP to nerf everything.

This is just sad.

So um, if a combat logi can both be a logi and be more effective at being an assault than an assault, what's the point of going assault again?
In case you didn't notice, they can still do everything, just not at the same time.

But you would go ahead and add all of these CPU/PG increases, have you not looked at the requirements of equipment, let alone the amount of SP I needed to fully level everything up. And as someone else mentioned, if this suit was so overpowered then why isn't everyone using it???? I'm usually the only one of the field that uses one, there are more negatives to it, and it's an SP sink hole. But the fact is your calling for logis to be less effective, how exactly are they going to fight back, how exactly will they be an asset to the team???

See the real problem is, with your calling for a nerf because CCP will end up ruining the entire class, its idiots like you who ruined this game calling for nerfs, why not HTFU and learn to play instead of complaining every two seconds.

Also why should I have to play a certain way because of the complaining of some nerfing fool? How bout we restrict you to just nanite injector and you can be a gimped logi with no way of changing?

So you want to keep Logis like what they are now?
Doing everything the assault does, only better?

Riiiiiight....
And you call me a carebear.

The standard weaponry barely takes any CPU/PG, this CPU/PG increase won't affect them.
However for prototype weaponry, that's a different thing, they will be heavily crippled in equipment if they go this route.
Not everyone is using it because not everyone buys skills according to the flavor of the month which might get nerfed.
They are not supposed to fight back with more than standard weaponry.
Get it into your head, if they are allowed to do everything at the same time, assaults are useless.

They won't ruin the entire class, they will put them inline with other classes.
Currently there is no reason, absolutely no reason, for me to spec into assault.

Yeah, I do. Just do a quick privilege check on what your SP goes into vs. a logi's. I spend the majority of my SP to get equipment to benefit other players. Assaults can spec into higher weaponry and offensive/defensive capability without all of that getting in the way. Know your role, Jabroni.

Actually yes it will, because the proto equipment takes up a tremendous amount of CPU/PG, along with the weapons and the advanced/proto mods. I fought hard to get the equipment I have today, and that is one of the things it seems you are forgetting, it takes 5 million sp just to skill into the caldari proto suit, that does not include core skills, or weapons, or equipment.

Instead of complaining about logis why not complain about the fact that new players won't even have a chance against beta vets, how new players will have to spend months grinding to get the same SP and even then won't be able to compete because most beta vets have at least 100million isk (enough to run proto all the time and still make isk).

Already explained, SP should mean that one thing is quite a bit better in every way than the other.
Unless it costs more ISK, like a tank.
Because eventually, someone will have Proto logi maxed out, offensive and defensive capabilities maxed out and equipment maxed out.
And it will probably happen not too far from now.

So you want to keep Logis like what they are now?
Doing everything the assault does, only better?

Riiiiiight....
And you call me a carebear.