I am wondering with 5,000 a night or less population will the game grow? is it doomed? can they advertise this game more?is this just a beta more or less to get ready for ps4?

I will play this game til the wheels fall off but I was curious.. oh yea CCP the heavy class is broken.. the range is waaaaaay too short and the damage is weak even with complex modz..

I'll be frank:

The one thing CCP is known for is taking a small player base and constantly expanding it. 5,000 is LOWLOWLOW for a consoles first day launch - but this was after 4 months of it already being available.

People WILL return in years to come, just like EvE, especially as new content comes and CCP finally gets mechanics right.

Emphasis on years. lol

I am wondering with 5,000 a night or less population will the game grow? is it doomed? can they advertise this game more?is this just a beta more or less to get ready for ps4?

I will play this game til the wheels fall off but I was curious.. oh yea CCP the heavy class is broken.. the range is waaaaaay too short and the damage is weak even with complex modz..

LMAO!!! Sota, you going to die a believe to the very end arn't you?!

Game will not last for another 2 months in current state.

Consoles players are different to PC gamers. Console players will never come back to this game because the FPS aspects is the worst ever.

LMAO!!! Sota, you going to die a believe to the very end arn't you?!

Game will not last for another 2 months in current state.

Consoles players are different to PC gamers. Console players will never come back to this game because the FPS aspects is the worst ever.

LMAO!!! Sota, you going to die a believe to the very end arn't you?!

Game will not last for another 2 months in current state.

Consoles players are different to PC gamers. Console players will never come back to this game because the FPS aspects is the worst ever.

I am wondering with 5,000 a night or less population will the game grow? is it doomed? can they advertise this game more?is this just a beta more or less to get ready for ps4?

I will play this game til the wheels fall off but I was curious.. oh yea CCP the heavy class is broken.. the range is waaaaaay too short and the damage is weak even with complex modz..

It is ~4500 per day. Constantly. From all around the world. Do some math and you will probably end up with around 300.000 people at least playing the game over a month. If you are expecting everyone to stay logged in all day and do nothing in game, you are kinda wrong.

I am wondering with 5,000 a night or less population will the game grow? is it doomed? can they advertise this game more?is this just a beta more or less to get ready for ps4?

I will play this game til the wheels fall off but I was curious.. oh yea CCP the heavy class is broken.. the range is waaaaaay too short and the damage is weak even with complex modz..

LMAO!!! Sota, you going to die a believe to the very end arn't you?!

Game will not last for another 2 months in current state.

Consoles players are different to PC gamers. Console players will never come back to this game because the FPS aspects is the worst ever.

Assume everyone spends only 1 hour playing each day.

24 x 5000 = 120,000

Assume that, because it was a weekday that the new build dropped, we can double that number to count people on weekends.

120,000 x 2 = 240,000

Where did you get 300,000 from?

5k is pretty poor. Especially for a console with a massive install base.

No other way to spin it. You are out of your mind if you think numbers this low are good or fine.

MAG was hitting about 15-20k concurrent users upon launch. Zipper tried to relaunch in and it did nothing to boost the size of the community.

Console shooters tend to have a very short shelf-life. Several games of late, games with a much better FPS mechanics then Dust, are a wasteland.

First impressions are everything. It has to make a big impact right out of the gate.

I don't think Dust is good enough and I think it'll get savaged in reviews in the next few weeks.

I love how you come up with a purely speculative number based on rough and uneducated factors and then ask where another poster got their speculative numbers from lol.

DUST 514 is still in beta. Just you watch, when CCP starts building and advertising GLADIATOR mode, PvE Rogue Drone mode, EVE ship boarding Penetration mode and zero gravity matches in a game with tanks, jeeps, attack ships, fighter jets, bikes and mechs...for FREE on PS3, Vita and PS4 (its gonna happen).

Haha @ Doom n Gloomers. Little to no future vision. :)

It came out of beta a couple of days ago. This is the release build.

The game is not coming to Vita.

It is officially launching on the 14th is what I am getting at.

Eveything bar fighting is coming to the Vita. We will probabyl get fighting on Vita with PS4's capabilities. So if you're going to split hairs...'is getting a Vita companion app'. :)

Game will not last for another 2 months in current state.

Consoles players are different to PC gamers. Console players will never come back to this game because the FPS aspects is the worst ever.

Keywords: Probably, Everything, Bar, Fighting.

So it's getting an app. An app that no one has seen or heard of in months.

Yeah.

I am wondering with 5,000 a night or less population will the game grow? is it doomed? can they advertise this game more?is this just a beta more or less to get ready for ps4?

I will play this game til the wheels fall off.

[quote=xaerael Kabiel
MMO growth is almost always the opposite to "off the shelf" FPS growth, it starts small and grows.

Not really. Most MMOs grow sharply, then **** around launch time when they fail to deliver on promises (or outright break what made the games great to begin with) then the population quickly declines and the game dies. A lot of others fail to even grow sharply. For just some more recent examples see Star Wars, Conan, Warhammer, City of Heroes

CCP ETERNE wrote: David Reid (aka CCP Pokethulu) actually spoke a bit about our marketing at the CCP Presents presentation at Fanfest. Essentially, while our launch is on the 14th, we are not going to be doing a full marketing push on the game until further down the line. We believe in taking a more grassroots approach to marketing our games rather than a full on marketing blitz.

I love how you come up with a purely speculative number based on rough and uneducated factors and then ask where another poster got their speculative numbers from lol.

DUST 514 is still in beta. Just you watch, when CCP starts building and advertising GLADIATOR mode, PvE Rogue Drone mode, EVE ship boarding Penetration mode and zero gravity matches in a game with tanks, jeeps, attack ships, fighter jets, bikes and mechs...for FREE on PS3, Vita and PS4 (its gonna happen).

Haha @ Doom n Gloomers. Little to no future vision. :)

Posted this in Mobius's thread as well, but I'll follow up with what a dev said when I made a thread like this...


TBH I am worried about the health of the game. I am surprised but happy they gave us a player count tool on login.

The highest I saw the player count get in E3 was 3k.

The highest I've seen so far this build is 4.5k.


I am amazed that this game is FREE and hardly anyone is playing it. It's new, it's different, it's an FPS so why aren't more people jumping on the miniscule bandwagon to play the game?

I seriously don't understand why the player count is so low. One thing post E3 that made the game fun again was all the influx of new blood, I was tired of seeing the same 300 people in my games (still am). But for a week or so it was nothing but new people in the player lists and it was great.




Quote from here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=73815


I understand they want to build this game the way they did EVE. I just don't know if the FPS player base will stick around the way the PC player base did.

Posted this in Mobius's thread as well, but I'll follow up with what a dev said when I made a thread like this...


TBH I am worried about the health of the game. I am surprised but happy they gave us a player count tool on login.

The highest I saw the player count get in E3 was 3k.

The highest I've seen so far this build is 4.5k.


I am amazed that this game is FREE and hardly anyone is playing it. It's new, it's different, it's an FPS so why aren't more people jumping on the miniscule bandwagon to play the game?

I seriously don't understand why the player count is so low. One thing post E3 that made the game fun again was all the influx of new blood, I was tired of seeing the same 300 people in my games (still am). But for a week or so it was nothing but new people in the player lists and it was great.




Quote from here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=73815


I understand they want to build this game the way they did EVE. I just don't know if the FPS player base will stick around the way the PC player base did.

I'll be frank:

The one thing CCP is known for is taking a small player base and constantly expanding it. 5,000 is LOWLOWLOW for a consoles first day launch - but this was after 4 months of it already being available.

People WILL return in years to come, just like EvE, especially as new content comes and CCP finally gets mechanics right.

Emphasis on years. lol

It is pretty bad when tons of primarily fps players say its bad, and even though it's free, you still can't get them to play. I started back in July last year and it has gone down hill more and more with each build. I miss the high SP rewards, the high HP suits. Back then the game was fun because it didn't take long to get into higher tier gears, no thinking oh crap i have to hit the cap for the next (x amount) of weeks just to get such and such. Battles were so much better, sure it had it's bugs but it was FUN. All the complaining combined with the fact CCP use a sledgehammer to nerf things ruined this game imo.

Not really. Most MMOs grow sharply, then **** around launch time when they fail to deliver on promises (or outright break what made the games great to begin with) then the population quickly declines and the game dies. A lot of others fail to even grow sharply. For just some more recent examples see Star Wars, Conan, Warhammer, City of Heroes

Nope, you'll play it until something better comes along or your clan/friends migrate to something better. That's why CCP had better make sure they stay competitive against the next couple iterations of other FPS. BF4 will dent the player base in a big way I imagine, especially if they do large scale battles on PS4.

same story eve will die

dust will die

years later it will sitll be played ..

People that have played eve do understand that ccp moves like dog **** in molasses hate to say it but there not really the fastest at implementing anything. But alas the game will be ok.

Adapt or Die

If they don't fix my proto HMG i'll be gone in weeks.

But I'd return after so many months to enjoy the SP and possible changes.

Adapt or Die