DUST Search - 5 K a night or less will Dust survive?

THE GREY CARDINAL wrote:

Beast Beastlington wrote:

THE GREY CARDINAL wrote:

Garrett Blacknova wrote:

Aoena Rays wrote:

It is ~4500 per day. Constantly. From all around the world. Do some math and you will probably end up with around 300.000 people at least playing the game over a month. If you are expecting everyone to stay logged in all day and do nothing in game, you are kinda wrong.

Assume everyone spends only 1 hour playing each day.

24 x 5000 = 120,000

Assume that, because it was a weekday that the new build dropped, we can double that number to count people on weekends.

120,000 x 2 = 240,000

Where did you get 300,000 from?

I love how you come up with a purely speculative number based on rough and uneducated factors and then ask where another poster got their speculative numbers from lol.

DUST 514 is still in beta. Just you watch, when CCP starts building and advertising GLADIATOR mode, PvE Rogue Drone mode, EVE ship boarding Penetration mode and zero gravity matches in a game with tanks, jeeps, attack ships, fighter jets, bikes and mechs...for FREE on PS3, Vita and PS4 (its gonna happen).

Haha @ Doom n Gloomers. Little to no future vision. :)

It came out of beta a couple of days ago. This is the release build.

The game is not coming to Vita.

It is officially launching on the 14th is what I am getting at.

Eveything bar fighting is coming to the Vita. We will probabyl get fighting on Vita with PS4's capabilities. So if you're going to split hairs...'is getting a Vita companion app'. :)

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iLLMaTiC619 KiLo. 62	Posted - 2013.05.08 03:38:00 - [1] - Quote I am wondering with 5,000 a night or less population will the game grow? is it doomed? can they advertise this game more?is this just a beta more or less to get ready for ps4? I will play this game til the wheels fall off but I was curious.. oh yea CCP the heavy class is broken.. the range is waaaaaay too short and the damage is weak even with complex modz..
SoTa of PoP Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 20	Posted - 2013.05.08 03:40:00 - [2] - Quote iLLMaTiC619 wrote: I am wondering with 5,000 a night or less population will the game grow? is it doomed? can they advertise this game more?is this just a beta more or less to get ready for ps4? I will play this game til the wheels fall off but I was curious.. oh yea CCP the heavy class is broken.. the range is waaaaaay too short and the damage is weak even with complex modz.. I'll be frank: The one thing CCP is known for is taking a small player base and constantly expanding it. 5,000 is LOWLOWLOW for a consoles first day launch - but this was after 4 months of it already being available. People WILL return in years to come, just like EvE, especially as new content comes and CCP finally gets mechanics right. Emphasis on years. lol
Omnipotent Zitro Imperfects Negative-Feedback 173	Posted - 2013.05.08 03:44:00 - [3] - Quote SoTa of PoP wrote: iLLMaTiC619 wrote: I am wondering with 5,000 a night or less population will the game grow? is it doomed? can they advertise this game more?is this just a beta more or less to get ready for ps4? I will play this game til the wheels fall off but I was curious.. oh yea CCP the heavy class is broken.. the range is waaaaaay too short and the damage is weak even with complex modz.. I'll be frank: The one thing CCP is known for is taking a small player base and constantly expanding it. 5,000 is LOWLOWLOW for a consoles first day launch - but this was after 4 months of it already being available. People WILL return in years to come, just like EvE, especially as new content comes and CCP finally gets mechanics right. Emphasis on years. lol LMAO!!! Sota, you going to die a believe to the very end arn't you?! Game will not last for another 2 months in current state. Consoles players are different to PC gamers. Console players will never come back to this game because the FPS aspects is the worst ever.
copy left Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN. 120	Posted - 2013.05.08 03:48:00 - [4] - Quote iLLMaTiC619 wrote: I am wondering with 5,000 a night or less population will the game grow? is it doomed? can they advertise this game more?is this just a beta more or less to get ready for ps4? I will play this game til the wheels fall off but I was curious.. oh yea CCP the heavy class is broken.. the range is waaaaaay too short and the damage is weak even with complex modz.. 5k on nights BEFORE THE WEEKEND. 5k people is more than enough for a game like this. Ask socom confrontation if 1k is enough. It was more than enough. Still is
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organization 2211	Posted - 2013.05.08 03:48:00 - [5] - Quote Ask the folks in China's Serenity server.
SoTa of PoP Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 21	Posted - 2013.05.08 03:49:00 - [6] - Quote Omnipotent Zitro wrote: SoTa of PoP wrote: iLLMaTiC619 wrote: I am wondering with 5,000 a night or less population will the game grow? is it doomed? can they advertise this game more?is this just a beta more or less to get ready for ps4? I will play this game til the wheels fall off but I was curious.. oh yea CCP the heavy class is broken.. the range is waaaaaay too short and the damage is weak even with complex modz.. I'll be frank: The one thing CCP is known for is taking a small player base and constantly expanding it. 5,000 is LOWLOWLOW for a consoles first day launch - but this was after 4 months of it already being available. People WILL return in years to come, just like EvE, especially as new content comes and CCP finally gets mechanics right. Emphasis on years. lol LMAO!!! Sota, you going to die a believe to the very end arn't you?! Game will not last for another 2 months in current state. Consoles players are different to PC gamers. Console players will never come back to this game because the FPS aspects is the worst ever. If they don't fix my proto HMG i'll be gone in weeks. But I'd return after so many months to enjoy the SP and possible changes.
Dwiin Dovah Federation of Elsinore 0	Posted - 2013.05.08 03:55:00 - [7] - Quote Omnipotent Zitro wrote: SoTa of PoP wrote: iLLMaTiC619 wrote: I am wondering with 5,000 a night or less population will the game grow? is it doomed? can they advertise this game more?is this just a beta more or less to get ready for ps4? I will play this game til the wheels fall off but I was curious.. oh yea CCP the heavy class is broken.. the range is waaaaaay too short and the damage is weak even with complex modz.. I'll be frank: The one thing CCP is known for is taking a small player base and constantly expanding it. 5,000 is LOWLOWLOW for a consoles first day launch - but this was after 4 months of it already being available. People WILL return in years to come, just like EvE, especially as new content comes and CCP finally gets mechanics right. Emphasis on years. lol LMAO!!! Sota, you going to die a believe to the very end arn't you?! Game will not last for another 2 months in current state. Consoles players are different to PC gamers. Console players will never come back to this game because the FPS aspects is the worst ever. I agree on you with that... but i have to say, they are trying to fill big shoes here... when this game was announced, it was announced like an extension to eve... now it would be way more awesome if not only i can play dust on ground, but there be a battle going up above the planet.... or more... being in the space battles and boarding enemy ships and destroying them from the inside! but it would take months, no YEARS to make a game that epic and they have to gauge it, i think that if they made the game for the pc instead of console, it would have a bigger base, because i know of a few less than par computer online fps games that get more than lets say a cumulative 10k different players a week
crazy space 1 Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 1098	Posted - 2013.05.08 04:00:00 - [8] - Quote Omnipotent Zitro wrote: SoTa of PoP wrote: iLLMaTiC619 wrote: I am wondering with 5,000 a night or less population will the game grow? is it doomed? can they advertise this game more?is this just a beta more or less to get ready for ps4? I will play this game til the wheels fall off but I was curious.. oh yea CCP the heavy class is broken.. the range is waaaaaay too short and the damage is weak even with complex modz.. I'll be frank: The one thing CCP is known for is taking a small player base and constantly expanding it. 5,000 is LOWLOWLOW for a consoles first day launch - but this was after 4 months of it already being available. People WILL return in years to come, just like EvE, especially as new content comes and CCP finally gets mechanics right. Emphasis on years. lol LMAO!!! Sota, you going to die a believe to the very end arn't you?! Game will not last for another 2 months in current state. Consoles players are different to PC gamers. Console players will never come back to this game because the FPS aspects is the worst ever. people said eve would die in 2 months and when it was released it was trash >.> But look it at it now, that's why I play
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 29	Posted - 2013.05.08 04:01:00 - [9] - Quote iLLMaTiC619 wrote: I am wondering with 5,000 a night or less population will the game grow? is it doomed? can they advertise this game more?is this just a beta more or less to get ready for ps4? I will play this game til the wheels fall off but I was curious.. oh yea CCP the heavy class is broken.. the range is waaaaaay too short and the damage is weak even with complex modz.. I still have 10 friends that are downloading / or havnt downloaded the update yet because of work/studies. You know not everyone can play everyday/immediately after an update is made, lol..... CHILL People concern themselves with this kind of pointless questions instead of just enjoying the game....
Aoena Rays Bragian Order Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.05.08 04:13:00 - [10] - Quote It is ~4500 per day. Constantly. From all around the world. Do some math and you will probably end up with around 300.000 people at least playing the game over a month.

Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 2768	Posted - 2013.05.08 04:26:00 - [11] - Quote Aoena Rays wrote: It is ~4500 per day. Constantly. From all around the world. Do some math and you will probably end up with around 300.000 people at least playing the game over a month. If you are expecting everyone to stay logged in all day and do nothing in game, you are kinda wrong. Assume everyone spends only 1 hour playing each day. 24 x 5000 = 120,000 Assume that, because it was a weekday that the new build dropped, we can double that number to count people on weekends. 120,000 x 2 = 240,000 Where did you get 300,000 from?
Torr Wrath Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 214	Posted - 2013.05.08 05:04:00 - [12] - Quote Considering that a lot of people wont really log back in to play till wednesday/tursday when the skillcap resets for them to re-grind it out? I think we are just fine.. EDIT:: as long as they fix my proto HMG along with Sota's
Drommy Hood Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 271	Posted - 2013.05.08 08:39:00 - [13] - Quote Meh. Last time I went on bf3 there was only 3 pages of populated servers for Europe, that must not have even been 300 people.
Ordo Malachai Bragian Order Amarr Empire 23	Posted - 2013.05.08 08:47:00 - [14] - Quote The game is still basically in Beta stage. No trade, no travel, extremely limited fighting choices, no long term consequences for fights, no manufacturing, no real interaction with EVE (and on, and ON). Given that these are not yet implemented we can hardly expect players to stay logged in all day and desperately rush home at lunch to see if their items have sold on market, (or if their base is now floating debris) as is the case with some sadly addicted EVE players Be patient and it will happen. I must admit at present my interest comes in spurts, its hard to be excited about playing on the same map for the thousandth time and shooting at the same players, for no real reason.
Kleanur Guy SyNergy Gaming EoN. 204	Posted - 2013.05.08 08:49:00 - [15] - Quote Is 5000 people really that low? I thought it was a decent effort TBH. An open beta game with very little advertising other than word of mouth and this number is around the clock. This game isn't going to be CoD in terms of numbers, they only have like 200k max and thats with huge budgets, advertising teams, loyal (stupid)playerbase etc. This game needs to get hyped again. I remember last year whent there was SO MUCH HYPE for Dust 514. People were really excited for this amazing concept of a game. I've been here since the first build, and the hype really has dulled down. Needs to be more Dust vids from CCP and maybe a few ads to get the hype back, that is what drives a release day, hype. (Take Diablo 3 for example. Game was in development for YEARS, people were so excited, had the biggest release day in history at the time, and the game was just meh, but Blizzard made their money so it was fine)
Cpt Murd0ck Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 157	Posted - 2013.05.08 08:53:00 - [16] - Quote iLLMaTiC619 wrote: I am wondering with 5,000 a night or less population will the game grow? is it doomed? can they advertise this game more?is this just a beta more or less to get ready for ps4? I will play this game til the wheels fall off but I was curious.. oh yea CCP the heavy class is broken.. the range is waaaaaay too short and the damage is weak even with complex modz.. Please remember that a lot of the player base is mature and have jobs. I myself work 40+ hours a week and really don't have time during the week.

ChribbaX Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions 381	Posted - 2013.05.08 08:54:00 - [17] - Quote I remember when EVE peaked at 5,000 on Sundays... now it's 50,000+ on a weekday. Way too early for the DUST is dying threads. Do that after a year instead. /c

Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 98	Posted - 2013.05.08 08:56:00 - [18] - Quote They need to institute those recruiter rewards to make us more aggressive about finding new people.
Deskalkulos Ildigan CrimeWave Syndicate 122	Posted - 2013.05.08 09:18:00 - [19] - Quote Omnipotent Zitro wrote: SoTa of PoP wrote: iLLMaTiC619 wrote: I am wondering with 5,000 a night or less population will the game grow? is it doomed? can they advertise this game more?is this just a beta more or less to get ready for ps4? I will play this game til the wheels fall off but I was curious.. oh yea CCP the heavy class is broken.. the range is waaaaaay too short and the damage is weak even with complex modz.. I'll be frank: The one thing CCP is known for is taking a small player base and constantly expanding it. 5,000 is LOWLOWLOW for a consoles first day launch - but this was after 4 months of it already being available. People WILL return in years to come, just like EvE, especially as new content comes and CCP finally gets mechanics right. Emphasis on years. lol LMAO!!! Sota, you going to die a believe to the very end arn't you?! Game will not last for another 2 months in current state. Consoles players are different to PC gamers. Console players will never come back to this game because the FPS aspects is the worst ever. and you are dead set on the games failing? I still think that being the only free to play (for everyone except germans - at least last time i checked) multiplayer shooter on PS3 helps the games "surviving". Also "worst ever FPS aspects" is extremely dependent on the person. I mean, personally i like class based shooter (as in: Medics and engineers and stuff not just different weapon loadouts) a lot, and if i have to go with class-less playing i prefer games like Unreal Tournament over, lets say . . . CoD. In fact i can hardly come up with any game i would be less encouraged to play than CoD (the only one i can think about being Def Jam: Icon). The FPS aspects are quirky i admit, but i guess its just a question of getting used to the new control schemes/ options etc. Or just change to mouse and keyboard. I feel that there is quite a potential for tweaking the controls to your preference.
Natu Nobilis Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 220	Posted - 2013.05.08 09:18:00 - [20] - Quote The end is near

Otoky DIOS EX. 56	Posted - 2013.05.08 09:28:00 - [21] - Quote Do you guys remember the buzz around Left 4 Dead or L4D2? The current player base on PC is bettwen 5-10k. In beta 5k player base is enough. There were no prmotion (only few youtube vid). CCP shoudnt promote this game before PC fight because now all the top corps farming the scrubs so noobies dont have a chanse to map the game. I hope PC will solve this problem and than players will come. And when they will learn the game, and understand the rules, I think they will stick with it.
General Regret PSU GHOST SYNDICATE 0	Posted - 2013.05.08 10:04:00 - [22] - Quote We need to prize people away from the cods and what not, they dont know what there missing!!! Word of mouth a good tool
kenderr cillo Grupo de Asalto Chacal CRONOS. 8	Posted - 2013.05.08 10:32:00 - [23] - Quote Remember, most of the college students have final exams... wait till summer to know how is the game.
Beast Beastlington Bragian Order Amarr Empire 250	Posted - 2013.05.08 10:40:00 - [24] - Quote 5k is pretty poor. Especially for a console with a massive install base. No other way to spin it. You are out of your mind if you think numbers this low are good or fine. MAG was hitting about 15-20k concurrent users upon launch. Zipper tried to relaunch in and it did nothing to boost the size of the community. Console shooters tend to have a very short shelf-life. Several games of late, games with a much better FPS mechanics then Dust, are a wasteland. First impressions are everything. It has to make a big impact right out of the gate. I don't think Dust is good enough and I think it'll get savaged in reviews in the next few weeks.
THE GREY CARDINAL PSU GHOST SYNDICATE 64	Posted - 2013.05.08 10:52:00 - [25] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Aoena Rays wrote: It is ~4500 per day. Constantly. From all around the world. Do some math and you will probably end up with around 300.000 people at least playing the game over a month. If you are expecting everyone to stay logged in all day and do nothing in game, you are kinda wrong. Assume everyone spends only 1 hour playing each day. 24 x 5000 = 120,000 Assume that, because it was a weekday that the new build dropped, we can double that number to count people on weekends. 120,000 x 2 = 240,000 Where did you get 300,000 from? I love how you come up with a purely speculative number based on rough and uneducated factors and then ask where another poster got their speculative numbers from lol. DUST 514 is still in beta. Just you watch, when CCP starts building and advertising GLADIATOR mode, PvE Rogue Drone mode, EVE ship boarding Penetration mode and zero gravity matches in a game with tanks, jeeps, attack ships, fighter jets, bikes and mechs...for FREE on PS3, Vita and PS4 (its gonna happen). Haha @ Doom n Gloomers. Little to no future vision. :)
NIIKIA Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 49	Posted - 2013.05.08 10:55:00 - [26] - Quote Beast Beastlington wrote: 5k is pretty poor. Especially for a console with a massive install base. No other way to spin it. You are out of your mind if you think numbers this low are good or fine. MAG was hitting about 15-20k concurrent users upon launch. Zipper tried to relaunch in and it did nothing to boost the size of the community. Console shooters tend to have a very short shelf-life. Several games of late, games with a much better FPS mechanics then Dust, are a wasteland. First impressions are everything. It has to make a big impact right out of the gate. I don't think Dust is good enough and I think it'll get savaged in reviews in the next few weeks. I think being a fresh new person looking in a dust will honestly think it garbage I know a few people have told this story but I had my best friend try it and he quit in two weeks ccp we can only do so much it's cool to want a game to take 7 years to master but its a console game that thought process doesn't apply I'm telling you it's hard for vets to kill people imagine brand new guys. Also last note guys most big game review people know dust is released next week they will hit it hard. Now think how many of you have checked reviews before you played a game. Free or not the reviews will hurt dust bad and if a player base is not growing it dying simple as that. We the fanboys can't keep it up if ccp keeps changing the game on us.
Beast Beastlington Bragian Order Amarr Empire 251	Posted - 2013.05.08 10:59:00 - [27] - Quote THE GREY CARDINAL wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: Aoena Rays wrote: It is ~4500 per day. Constantly. From all around the world. Do some math and you will probably end up with around 300.000 people at least playing the game over a month. If you are expecting everyone to stay logged in all day and do nothing in game, you are kinda wrong. Assume everyone spends only 1 hour playing each day. 24 x 5000 = 120,000 Assume that, because it was a weekday that the new build dropped, we can double that number to count people on weekends. 120,000 x 2 = 240,000 Where did you get 300,000 from? I love how you come up with a purely speculative number based on rough and uneducated factors and then ask where another poster got their speculative numbers from lol. DUST 514 is still in beta. Just you watch, when CCP starts building and advertising GLADIATOR mode, PvE Rogue Drone mode, EVE ship boarding Penetration mode and zero gravity matches in a game with tanks, jeeps, attack ships, fighter jets, bikes and mechs...for FREE on PS3, Vita and PS4 (its gonna happen). Haha @ Doom n Gloomers. Little to no future vision. :) It came out of beta a couple of days ago. This is the release build. The game is not coming to Vita.
THE GREY CARDINAL PSU GHOST SYNDICATE 64	Posted - 2013.05.08 11:04:00 - [28] - Quote Beast Beastlington wrote: THE GREY CARDINAL wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: Aoena Rays wrote: It is ~4500 per day. Constantly. From all around the world. Do some math and you will probably end up with around 300.000 people at least playing the game over a month. If you are expecting everyone to stay logged in all day and do nothing in game, you are kinda wrong. Assume everyone spends only 1 hour playing each day. 24 x 5000 = 120,000 Assume that, because it was a weekday that the new build dropped, we can double that number to count people on weekends. 120,000 x 2 = 240,000 Where did you get 300,000 from? I love how you come up with a purely speculative number based on rough and uneducated factors and then ask where another poster got their speculative numbers from lol. DUST 514 is still in beta. Just you watch, when CCP starts building and advertising GLADIATOR mode, PvE Rogue Drone mode, EVE ship boarding Penetration mode and zero gravity matches in a game with tanks, jeeps, attack ships, fighter jets, bikes and mechs...for FREE on PS3, Vita and PS4 (its gonna happen). Haha @ Doom n Gloomers. Little to no future vision. :) It came out of beta a couple of days ago. This is the release build. The game is not coming to Vita. It is officially launching on the 14th is what I am getting at. Eveything bar fighting is coming to the Vita. We will probabyl get fighting on Vita with PS4's capabilities. So if you're going to split hairs...'is getting a Vita companion app'. :)
xaerael Kabiel Goonfeet 94	Posted - 2013.05.08 11:13:00 - [29] - Quote There's a ton of games out there that survive on less than 5k players online, and have been running for more than 5-6 years. RO in it's peak only had about 6k players online at any time, and is a terrible garbage P2W game. Dust is still in it's infancy, and is more targeted at Eve players right now (or people who like the idea of Eve, but hate the ultra-complex nature of Eve.) Over time, and as Dust becomes more popular, more groups will join the game, looking for something with more depth and legacy. MMO growth is almost always the opposite to "off the shelf" FPS growth, it starts small and grows. WoW's original population was a mere fragment of what it is now. I think a lot of the problem is that people are expecting the numbers that come with iteration x of generic popular FPS x. These games have had a following for several years, and the base community has only grown. Dust is a very different beast, and requires players to want more than a simple generic "pick up and play" game. But as the people who DO want something deeper to play pick the game up, they're likely to stay like most MMO players do.
Beast Beastlington Bragian Order Amarr Empire 252	Posted - 2013.05.08 11:17:00 - [30] - Quote THE GREY CARDINAL wrote: Beast Beastlington wrote: THE GREY CARDINAL wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: Aoena Rays wrote: It is ~4500 per day. Constantly. From all around the world. Do some math and you will probably end up with around 300.000 people at least playing the game over a month. If you are expecting everyone to stay logged in all day and do nothing in game, you are kinda wrong. Assume everyone spends only 1 hour playing each day. 24 x 5000 = 120,000 Assume that, because it was a weekday that the new build dropped, we can double that number to count people on weekends. 120,000 x 2 = 240,000 Where did you get 300,000 from? I love how you come up with a purely speculative number based on rough and uneducated factors and then ask where another poster got their speculative numbers from lol. DUST 514 is still in beta. Just you watch, when CCP starts building and advertising GLADIATOR mode, PvE Rogue Drone mode, EVE ship boarding Penetration mode and zero gravity matches in a game with tanks, jeeps, attack ships, fighter jets, bikes and mechs...for FREE on PS3, Vita and PS4 (its gonna happen). Haha @ Doom n Gloomers. Little to no future vision. :) It came out of beta a couple of days ago. This is the release build. The game is not coming to Vita. It is officially launching on the 14th is what I am getting at. Eveything bar fighting is coming to the Vita. We will probabyl get fighting on Vita with PS4's capabilities. So if you're going to split hairs...'is getting a Vita companion app'. :) Keywords: Probably, Everything, Bar, Fighting. So it's getting an app. An app that no one has seen or heard of in months. Yeah.



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