A game this complicated and in-depth was never meant to be for a console... If PC players had access then it might be acceptable...

But the following factors will lead this game to its inevitable doom:

PS3 only - minimised target audience, and supports casual gamers over people who will take it seriously like on EVE.

Overcomplexity - a game this complicated should never have been designed for a console, people just won't spend months and months training just to up their game by a fraction. This would be the case in EVE since it is PC and people are more dedicated, but on PS3 people just won't keep up to it... This game would have been better as an RTS, Civilization V / Starcraft II real time strategy game for the PC and PS3 where you trade militants and deploy them with assets... There simply aren't enough dedicated PS3 players who will abide within this rabbit hole... I am having to defend Dust 514 to my friends because they hate it.

Controls and Graphics - if these graphics stay after the release, things won't go well, the screen is laggy and the textures are minimal. The controls are clunky and it is seriously hard for a new beginner to stay interested or get good at a game like this.

Hardcores - new players who join are going to be absolutely devastated by the players with 15 million times their SP and money, and 10 times their experience on such a complex shooter. If I were to join right now with no EVE / Dust experience, I would turn back right away... I would get owned by people so badly that I would just pull the plug out.

The fact that it is free - when you buy a game, you feel obliged to play it after buying it, you feel as if you spent your money on it. Making it free gives you a reason just to put it down without consolidating it in the future.


Sorry CCP, but I can't picture Dust 514 competing or succeeding well in 3 years time...

4 alphabets;- PC FW!

Take a chill pill. Go smoke some weed. Get laid. Get drunk. Do it in any order. You will be fine!

Again, computer based skill system determines damage output, movement speed, and health, you cannot "adapt"

4 alphabets;- PC FW!

Take a chill pill. Go smoke some weed. Get laid. Get drunk. Do it in any order. You will be fine!

I quite frankly don't think that you understand who you are typing to. I am laughing at the idea of me smoking weed and getting drunk, that is one of those impossible things in this strange universe.

Adapt or Die

Somebody's just upset that they can't play on PC.

Adapt or Die

Yeah you are right about EVE being long lasting, and that was very successful of them. But the transition of this 'survivability' isn't going to last on consoles... It just won't. 'Everyone' has a PC, 'everyone' doesn't have a PS3 and those who do will not always want to spend months training for a free game. It feels unfulfilled / improper.

Red star chicks suck Red star men lick.

I am still the worst critic CCP has. However there is one way of being absolutely destructive and say **** without recommending feedback and the other is by providing constructive feedback.

You say that there are so many hiccups but yet don't post how best it could be fixed in your opinion.

I however don't blame the mindset of the gamer. When they see 30 negative things, it is hard to see the other 60 good things.

No one listens to anyone's boring suggestions, they just like to see the complaints.

But the good things in this game have basically been eliminated through the bad things which have arisen.

But 4000 players spread out across the globe isnt enough to really do factional warfare effectively.

Do I understand this properly?
OP is mad at depth and complexity? Did you even think about the consequence of what you're writing?
The only reason anyone is still here is because of the promise of depth, complexity and tactics.

You think anyone is going to stay if CCP removes the only thing that's ever held anyone's interest in Dust 514?

The majority of problems are coming out of this game being dumbed down and flattened. You want to exaggerate this further by making it even more like some CoD clone?

A few bugs and borked features aside, the #1 complaint about Uprising is that instead of rock paper scissors its a bunch of tards clubbing each other with rocks.

Good idea OP moar rocks!

Will you fuckwits stop comparing it to EVE

''CCP made EVE, that's lasted''.

It's a ******* MMO, on a PC. This is an FPS, on a ******* console!

How many times do people have to say that?!?!?!?!?

as many times as you feel like but its like bashing your head into a wall, we cant help that your stupid and need to wear a helmet.

dust is a MMO
EvE = MMORPG
Dust = RPG

Will you fuckwits stop comparing it to EVE

''CCP made EVE, that's lasted''.

It's a ******* MMO, on a PC. This is an FPS, on a ******* console!

How many times do people have to say that?!?!?!?!?

Please shut up, your corp sucks and youre bitching.

You know what this thread made me think about... Dark Souls.

Dark Souls was an extremely difficult and complex game. Granted it wasn't an MMO or FPS but those difficulty and complexity issues are both things that these games share and none of that stopped Dark Souls from being a hugely popular game. That game is one superb and recent example of the hardcore PS3 community actually existing that the OP says does not.

Whether you recognise it or not, there is a playerbase for Dust514. There is a subset of PS3 players who are hardcore and do want hardcore games with learning curves and difficulty spikes. There are also many people who want a proper MMO experience on the PS3.

Granted this game has its problems but all it needs is the long term vision and support of the devs to perservere. The active player count may dwindle from time to time but I have no doubt that as the game develops over the years, it will become one of the great legacies of the Playstation (3, 4 and probably whatever comes along after that too).

Please shut up, your corp sucks and youre bitching.

I seriously hope anonymous hacks the servers and destroys this game.

Adapt or Die