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Dregarian
IMPSwarm
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.07 17:30:00 -
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The complexity will keep the screaming pre-puberty kids off the game and that's a huge plus. Let them continue to "pwn" in COD. Now we just have to listen to the adolescent's cry.
What is interesting about this game on the PS3 is that the console audience is used to having a packaged game roll out and then just get "add-ons". This game is designed like your typical MMO style game for the PC. That means, several hot fixes, ongoing patches to address user feedback and constant tweaks. Not always for the better. What also comes with that, is constant balancing and unbalancing. I come from a background in PC MMO gaming and can't count the amount of times one of my characters has been broken, fixed, made godly and broken again over the course of my play duration with it.
When WOW was first released, the game was broken and very difficult to stomach. Yet, like it or not, grew to be the most successful online MMO. Now this game is no WOW but its development, I predict, will follow closely to it and others like it. At least, I hope it does. |
CrotchGrab 360
Better Hide R Die
27
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Posted - 2013.05.07 17:33:00 -
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Will you fuckwits stop comparing it to EVE
''CCP made EVE, that's lasted''.
It's a ******* MMO, on a PC. This is an FPS, on a ******* console!
How many times do people have to say that?!?!?!?!? |
Otoky
DIOS EX.
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Posted - 2013.05.07 17:35:00 -
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Bye. Can I have your stuff. |
Rossiya diya Trolley
Resheph Interstellar Strategy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.07 17:36:00 -
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Iskandar Zul Karnain wrote:Do I understand this properly?
OP is mad at depth and complexity? Did you even think about the consequence of what you're writing?
The only reason anyone is still here is because of the promise of depth, complexity and tactics.
You think anyone is going to stay if CCP removes the only thing that's ever held anyone's interest in Dust 514?
The majority of problems are coming out of this game being dumbed down and flattened. You want to exaggerate this further by making it even more like some CoD clone?
A few bugs and borked features aside, the #1 complaint about Uprising is that instead of rock paper scissors its a bunch of tards clubbing each other with rocks.
Good idea OP moar rocks!
Please shut up, your corp sucks and youre bitching. |
Hasek Tokugawa
HavoK Core
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.07 17:36:00 -
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ahhh i remember these posts from eve.. still hasnt died has it?
now i also remember when eve first launched, if i saw 5000 players on at once i was freaking out how the universe was packed and i would have no space left!
now more then 5000 are logging in at the same time when the servers come up on a weekday |
Hasek Tokugawa
HavoK Core
RISE of LEGION
13
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Posted - 2013.05.07 17:38:00 -
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CrotchGrab 360 wrote:Will you fuckwits stop comparing it to EVE
''CCP made EVE, that's lasted''.
It's a ******* MMO, on a PC. This is an FPS, on a ******* console!
How many times do people have to say that?!?!?!?!?
as many times as you feel like but its like bashing your head into a wall, we cant help that your stupid and need to wear a helmet.
dust is a MMO
EvE = MMORPG
Dust = MMOFPS |
Rossiya diya Trolley
Resheph Interstellar Strategy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.07 17:40:00 -
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Hasek Tokugawa wrote:CrotchGrab 360 wrote:Will you fuckwits stop comparing it to EVE
''CCP made EVE, that's lasted''.
It's a ******* MMO, on a PC. This is an FPS, on a ******* console!
How many times do people have to say that?!?!?!?!? as many times as you feel like but its like bashing your head into a wall, we cant help that your stupid and need to wear a helmet. dust is a MMO EvE = MMORPG Dust = RPG
Fixed it for you
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Dregarian
IMPSwarm
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.07 17:40:00 -
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CrotchGrab 360 wrote:Will you fuckwits stop comparing it to EVE
''CCP made EVE, that's lasted''.
It's a ******* MMO, on a PC. This is an FPS, on a ******* console!
How many times do people have to say that?!?!?!?!?
It is an MMO you tard. Take your head and pound it into the nearest hard object until this concept sinks in. |
Elrick Mercer
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.07 17:52:00 -
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God here we go again with the it should've been on PC not console BS.
What makes you think the PC audience would take to Dust any better than the console audience? Last I checked there are BF3, COD and Crysis players on the PC as well... Stop blaming the player base for not liking the game because it's "to hard" or has a "vertical learning cliff". Dust is not a hard game. Dust is not a very fun game to play. Blame the people developing the game blame the people who constantly get stuff nerfed.
If CCP was so great at making games I'm sure EVE would have or should have more than 500,000 players after being out for 10 years lets not forget most people have more than one account on EVE. You are just looking for a reason to blame why the game will fail instead of looking at the true reasons.
You even said it yourself Dust would be better as an RTS so you don't even care about the FPS side of Dust. I'll tell you this if Dust was played properly it would be an RTS but in FPS view. You still need to use strategy in real time to win the game... |
Iskandar Zul Karnain
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
369
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Posted - 2013.05.07 17:54:00 -
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Rossiya diya Trolley wrote:Please shut up, your corp sucks and youre bitching.
lol Rossiva can't paper or scissors |
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Django Quik
R.I.f.t
Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.07 17:55:00 -
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You know what this thread made me think about... Dark Souls.
Dark Souls was an extremely difficult and complex game. Granted it wasn't an MMO or FPS but those difficulty and complexity issues are both things that these games share and none of that stopped Dark Souls from being a hugely popular game. That game is one superb and recent example of the hardcore PS3 community actually existing that the OP says does not.
Whether you recognise it or not, there is a playerbase for Dust514. There is a subset of PS3 players who are hardcore and do want hardcore games with learning curves and difficulty spikes. There are also many people who want a proper MMO experience on the PS3.
Granted this game has its problems but all it needs is the long term vision and support of the devs to perservere. The active player count may dwindle from time to time but I have no doubt that as the game develops over the years, it will become one of the great legacies of the Playstation (3, 4 and probably whatever comes along after that too). |
Smoky The Bear
Intergalactic Cannibus Cartel
25
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Posted - 2013.05.07 18:05:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:You know what this thread made me think about... Dark Souls.
Dark Souls was an extremely difficult and complex game. Granted it wasn't an MMO or FPS but those difficulty and complexity issues are both things that these games share and none of that stopped Dark Souls from being a hugely popular game. That game is one superb and recent example of the hardcore PS3 community actually existing that the OP says does not.
Whether you recognise it or not, there is a playerbase for Dust514. There is a subset of PS3 players who are hardcore and do want hardcore games with learning curves and difficulty spikes. There are also many people who want a proper MMO experience on the PS3.
Granted this game has its problems but all it needs is the long term vision and support of the devs to perservere. The active player count may dwindle from time to time but I have no doubt that as the game develops over the years, it will become one of the great legacies of the Playstation (3, 4 and probably whatever comes along after that too).
YEs .. I used to tell my friends that this was a thinking mans shooter.. Now its a sheepmans shooter... |
Abu Stij
Goonfeet
7
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Posted - 2013.05.07 18:14:00 -
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As has been said countless times, there are Call of Duty "Modern Military Shooters" and then there are other games that are FPS but do not follow the same formula.
DUST fills a role for gamers who like shooters, but hate the overly simplified gameplay and mechanics that FPS games have trended towards in recent years/the past decade. |
Fierces Dave
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
19
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Posted - 2013.05.07 18:16:00 -
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Rossiya diya Trolley wrote:Iskandar Zul Karnain wrote:Do I understand this properly?
OP is mad at depth and complexity? Did you even think about the consequence of what you're writing?
The only reason anyone is still here is because of the promise of depth, complexity and tactics.
You think anyone is going to stay if CCP removes the only thing that's ever held anyone's interest in Dust 514?
The majority of problems are coming out of this game being dumbed down and flattened. You want to exaggerate this further by making it even more like some CoD clone?
A few bugs and borked features aside, the #1 complaint about Uprising is that instead of rock paper scissors its a bunch of tards clubbing each other with rocks.
Good idea OP moar rocks!
Please shut up, your corp sucks and youre bitching.
.........I thought I played this game to get away from pre-puberty kids, my head hurts. |
Ayures II
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
111
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Posted - 2013.05.07 18:16:00 -
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Rossiya diya Trolley wrote:I seriously hope anonymous hacks the servers and destroys this game.
Oh, dear! A 4chan DDoS! Terrifying. |
Aesiron Kor-Azor
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
56
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Posted - 2013.05.07 18:19:00 -
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Granted
Granted
Granted
Granted
Granted
Granted
Yeah, I GET THE IDEA THAT THIS IS 'unique', that EVE succeeded, and so on.
But I just can't picture this being a popular game, it is too complicated, has too small of an audience and is graphically ugly.. I really can't expect to see anyone enjoying a game in this state, it will die and it will only be riddled by some 4000 cult members.
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Sexy Caked
Have A Seat
0
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Posted - 2013.05.07 18:25:00 -
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I HAZ A PLAYSTATIONS AND AN OPINIONS |
Bubba Brown
Militaires Sans Jeux
38
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Posted - 2013.05.07 18:27:00 -
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S0LlD SNAKE wrote:Adapt or Die
ironically enough, the same can be said of CCP shanghai and dust |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2748
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Posted - 2013.05.07 18:31:00 -
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I haven't owned an up-to-date PC since about 2 years before the PS3 came out. I've been a console gamer (and a retro PC gamer) with PC gamer friends whose computers I occasionally "borrow" when I visit, since before the current console generation.
In both console generations where I've been mostly console-exclusive, I've had a strong focus on the more complex games available for the console. Armored Core being a perfect example. The most popular PC-based mech shooters have NEVER had the stupidly-complex customisation options that the Armored Core franchise throws at its players. When I played MechWarrior 2 and 3, I could spend half an hour going through and creating 2 or 3 custom Mechs, testing them, and being ready for a variety of battles. In Armored Core: Formula Front - a PSP game - I could literally spend HOURS on a single AC design before realising it won't work, scrapping it and starting again. I'd send one of my ACs into battle, and watch the fight. If I won, I replayed to enjoy the show. If I lost, I replayed several times over to work out exactly HOW and WHY I lost, so I could build an effective counter. I had 5 basic designs which I tweaked for different encounters with different opponents.
TL;DR version: Consoles need more complex games. There are ex-PC gamers here who want something with depth. Mindless fun is good at times, but it's still mindless, and some of us want something more than that. |
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