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Aesiron Kor-Azor
Amarr Templars
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Posted - 2013.05.07 16:49:00 -
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A game this complicated and in-depth was never meant to be for a console... If PC players had access then it might be acceptable...
But the following factors will lead this game to its inevitable doom:
PS3 only - minimised target audience, and supports casual gamers over people who will take it seriously like on EVE.
Overcomplexity - a game this complicated should never have been designed for a console, people just won't spend months and months training just to up their game by a fraction. This would be the case in EVE since it is PC and people are more dedicated, but on PS3 people just won't keep up to it... This game would have been better as an RTS, Civilization V / Starcraft II real time strategy game for the PC and PS3 where you trade militants and deploy them with assets... There simply aren't enough dedicated PS3 players who will abide within this rabbit hole... I am having to defend Dust 514 to my friends because they hate it.
Controls and Graphics - if these graphics stay after the release, things won't go well, the screen is laggy and the textures are minimal. The controls are clunky and it is seriously hard for a new beginner to stay interested or get good at a game like this.
Hardcores - new players who join are going to be absolutely devastated by the players with 15 million times their SP and money, and 10 times their experience on such a complex shooter. If I were to join right now with no EVE / Dust experience, I would turn back right away... I would get owned by people so badly that I would just pull the plug out.
The fact that it is free - when you buy a game, you feel obliged to play it after buying it, you feel as if you spent your money on it. Making it free gives you a reason just to put it down without consolidating it in the future.
Sorry CCP, but I can't picture Dust 514 competing or succeeding well in 3 years time... |
Aesiron Kor-Azor
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.07 16:55:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:4 alphabets;- PC FW! Take a chill pill. Go smoke some weed. Get laid. Get drunk. Do it in any order. You will be fine!  Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:A game this complicated and in-depth was never meant to be for a console... If PC players had access then it might be acceptable...
But the following factors will lead this game to its inevitable doom:
PS3 only - minimised target audience, and supports casual gamers over people who will take it seriously like on EVE.
Overcomplexity - a game this complicated should never have been designed for a console, people just won't spend months and months training just to up their game by a fraction. This would be the case in EVE since it is PC and people are more dedicated, but on PS3 people just won't keep up to it... This game would have been better as an RTS, Civilization V / Starcraft II real time strategy game for the PC and PS3 where you trade militants and deploy them with assets... There simply aren't enough dedicated PS3 players who will abide within this rabbit hole... I am having to defend Dust 514 to my friends because they hate it.
Controls and Graphics - if these graphics stay after the release, things won't go well, the screen is laggy and the textures are minimal. The controls are clunky and it is seriously hard for a new beginner to stay interested or get good at a game like this.
Hardcores - new players who join are going to be absolutely devastated by the players with 15 million times their SP and money, and 10 times their experience on such a complex shooter. If I were to join right now with no EVE / Dust experience, I would turn back right away... I would get owned by people so badly that I would just pull the plug out.
The fact that it is free - when you buy a game, you feel obliged to play it after buying it, you feel as if you spent your money on it. Making it free gives you a reason just to put it down without consolidating it in the future.
Sorry CCP, but I can't picture Dust 514 competing or succeeding well in 3 years time...
I quite frankly don't think that you understand who you are typing to. I am laughing at the idea of me smoking weed and getting drunk, that is one of those impossible things in this strange universe.
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Aesiron Kor-Azor
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.07 16:57:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:4 alphabets;- PC FW! Take a chill pill. Go smoke some weed. Get laid. Get drunk. Do it in any order. You will be fine! Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:A game this complicated and in-depth was never meant to be for a console... If PC players had access then it might be acceptable...
But the following factors will lead this game to its inevitable doom:
PS3 only - minimised target audience, and supports casual gamers over people who will take it seriously like on EVE.
Overcomplexity - a game this complicated should never have been designed for a console, people just won't spend months and months training just to up their game by a fraction. This would be the case in EVE since it is PC and people are more dedicated, but on PS3 people just won't keep up to it... This game would have been better as an RTS, Civilization V / Starcraft II real time strategy game for the PC and PS3 where you trade militants and deploy them with assets... There simply aren't enough dedicated PS3 players who will abide within this rabbit hole... I am having to defend Dust 514 to my friends because they hate it.
Controls and Graphics - if these graphics stay after the release, things won't go well, the screen is laggy and the textures are minimal. The controls are clunky and it is seriously hard for a new beginner to stay interested or get good at a game like this.
Hardcores - new players who join are going to be absolutely devastated by the players with 15 million times their SP and money, and 10 times their experience on such a complex shooter. If I were to join right now with no EVE / Dust experience, I would turn back right away... I would get owned by people so badly that I would just pull the plug out.
The fact that it is free - when you buy a game, you feel obliged to play it after buying it, you feel as if you spent your money on it. Making it free gives you a reason just to put it down without consolidating it in the future.
Sorry CCP, but I can't picture Dust 514 competing or succeeding well in 3 years time...
Yeah you are right about EVE being long lasting, and that was very successful of them. But the transition of this 'survivability' isn't going to last on consoles... It just won't. 'Everyone' has a PC, 'everyone' doesn't have a PS3 and those who do will not always want to spend months training for a free game. It feels unfulfilled / improper. |
Aesiron Kor-Azor
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
54
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Posted - 2013.05.07 17:01:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:Somebody's just upset that they can't play on PC.
Not at all, I just think that for a company's sake, the restrictions are making the assumption that this will not need a large audience. I would personally rather play on PS3.. |
Aesiron Kor-Azor
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
54
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Posted - 2013.05.07 17:05:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:
Yeah you are right about EVE being long lasting, and that was very successful of them. But the transition of this 'survivability' isn't going to last on consoles... It just won't. 'Everyone' has a PC, 'everyone' doesn't have a PS3 and those who do will not always want to spend months training for a free game. It feels unfulfilled / improper.
I am still the worst critic CCP has. However there is one way of being absolutely destructive and say **** without recommending feedback and the other is by providing constructive feedback. You say that there are so many hiccups but yet don't post how best it could be fixed in your opinion.I however don't blame the mindset of the gamer. When they see 30 negative things, it is hard to see the other 60 good things.
No one listens to anyone's boring suggestions, they just like to see the complaints.
But the good things in this game have basically been eliminated through the bad things which have arisen. |
Aesiron Kor-Azor
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.07 18:19:00 -
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Granted
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Granted
Granted
Yeah, I GET THE IDEA THAT THIS IS 'unique', that EVE succeeded, and so on.
But I just can't picture this being a popular game, it is too complicated, has too small of an audience and is graphically ugly.. I really can't expect to see anyone enjoying a game in this state, it will die and it will only be riddled by some 4000 cult members.
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