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Zombie Supreme
D3LTA FORC3
Orion Empire
3
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Posted - 2013.05.07 12:56:00 -
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OK first you tell us we will be getting back the Aur we spent on BPO's then you change your mind? Militia BPO OK whatever they can still be used with spending skill points. Dropsuits however are a different story.
I spent full price (About $10 in AUR) for 1 Logi Sever Suit about 2 months ago, because the suit was good forever, and cheap to spec into. Now I have a useless $10 BPO sitting in my inventory unless I want to spend 1.9mil SP specing into a racial suit that I don't want or like. NTM, I have always been a tanker first and I don't have 1.9mil extra SP lying around.
I understand some people bought alot of these suits when they were 30 aur, I wish I was playing and bought it when it was that cheap BC then I wouldn't care.
There are many easy fixes for this that can keep everyone happy and prevent the people who took advantage and bought alot of them for 30 Aur and are now looking to rake in the AUR. You can do any 1 of the following.
1. You can refund only 1 suit per person, because no one needs to have bought more than 1 suit per merc.
2. You can check your logs which you obviously keep and refund the original purchase price.
3. You can make the Sever suit like the dragonfly suit and require no skills to use.
Anyone of these solutions should be relatively simple, and fair. Something needs to be done about this, because I and 98% of people that own that suit feel ripped off. |
Kram Ennett
R.I.f.t
Orion Empire
8
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Posted - 2013.05.07 14:33:00 -
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Agree wholeheartedly. 3 would probably be the easiest option |
NanoCleric
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
30
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Posted - 2013.05.07 14:40:00 -
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I also agree that something aught to be done.. It is wasted real life money otherwise..
We bought them on the pretense that we would always be able to use them, now that's null and void. I personally don't want to spec into minmitar gear now.. which means i can't use it, so real life cash is just sat there for nothing.
Now i'm not going to die over it if nothing is done about it.. it's just a tad annoying really.. Would be nice if something were implemented to make it feasible to use it without having to spec racially into the skills considering the skill cost.
A refund would be nice.. but then i'd be wanting a bpo of the similar style but in the race i pick... that's not available so i'd likely just end up spending it on boosters.
But i think suggestion 3 has merit to it.. It would mean we could hop straight into it.. i even wouldn't mind so much if the stats were nerfed on it if it.. just something cheap to use so that we can support our guys even in a cheap fit..
Anyway... +1 |
KatanaPT
Tech Guard
General Tso's Alliance
92
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Posted - 2013.05.07 14:40:00 -
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Same with the Raven assault suit, i bought it with aurum and did not won it in any event or anything. Iim stuck with it because now it takes a considerable sp sunkage for a gallente guy, i contacted CCP and basically was told "deal with it, we cant do anything"
I believe all 3 options are fair, but currently theres not a equivalent to the raven for the other races (i think, i maybe wrong but i didnt found it in market). |
copy left
Greatness Achieved Through Training
EoN.
118
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Posted - 2013.05.07 14:41:00 -
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This is a big issue. A refund would be nice. Or #3 would work for me. |
Delirium Inferno
Edoras Corporation
134
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Posted - 2013.05.07 14:41:00 -
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Agree with everyone else, I'm pretty PO'd about this. |
Galthur
CrimeWave Syndicate
38
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Posted - 2013.05.07 14:49:00 -
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The reason for this is they aren't refunding merc packs and there was a MAG merc pack |
Thor Odinson42
Planetary Response Organization
157
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Posted - 2013.05.07 14:52:00 -
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Galthur wrote:The reason for this is they aren't refunding merc packs and there was a MAG merc pack
Wrong, it was because of folks who bought a ton of them when they were cheap. They speculated that the prices would go up and they'd get a windfall.
The Devs admitted this in the announcements. It had nothing to do with merc packs. |
Delirium Inferno
Edoras Corporation
134
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Posted - 2013.05.07 14:55:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Galthur wrote:The reason for this is they aren't refunding merc packs and there was a MAG merc pack Wrong, it was because of folks who bought a ton of them when they were cheap. They speculated that the prices would go up and they'd get a windfall. The Devs admitted this in the announcements. It had nothing to do with merc packs. But that doesn't really effect me much I don't care if some guy can get a couple extra "free" active boosters if it means I get my 20k aurum back. To me it sounds more like CCP made a mistake and don't want to give away free money rather than CCP looking out for the community.
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Bethhy
Not Guilty
EoN.
9
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Posted - 2013.05.07 15:03:00 -
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False advertising and giving vague public statements about reimbursing Aurum items that people assumed covered those suits, and CCP knew very well what peoples assumptions where...
Why the hell did we even have to learn this content WHEN it launched? why didnt we have full information long before so we where educated going into the patch.
CCP is isolating themselfs in some freaking white tower. Come back down CCP, this is your first FPS game and your surrounded by FPS vet's to help you, we all want the same thing a successful FPS title that will be around for years to come.
Don't ruin it by screwing over a customer base that already is willing to invest 19,800 aurum for a suit. |
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Spacetits CDXX
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
268
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Posted - 2013.05.07 15:21:00 -
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Haven't seen others say it yet, so I'll throw it out there:
If the racial suits are supposed to be Tech 2, and require proto light/medium/heavy frames to spec into, they are way too high-level to be a BPO anyway. The Raven/Sever/Valor suits should be refunded and deleted for that reason alone. |
BursegSardaukar
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
117
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Posted - 2013.05.07 15:24:00 -
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KatanaPT wrote:Same with the Raven assault suit, i bought it with aurum and did not won it in any event or anything. Iim stuck with it because now it takes a considerable sp sunkage for a gallente guy, i contacted CCP and basically was told "deal with it, we cant do anything"
I believe all 3 options are fair, but currently theres not a equivalent to the raven for the other races (i think, i maybe wrong but i didnt found it in market).
You're correct, there are no Gal/Min/Amarr 'Raven' Assault suits. I would certainly be rocking that already if there were. |
Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
109
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Posted - 2013.05.09 06:53:00 -
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Spacetits CDXX wrote:Haven't seen others say it yet, so I'll throw it out there:
If the racial suits are supposed to be Tech 2, and require proto light/medium/heavy frames to spec into, they are way too high-level to be a BPO anyway. The Raven/Sever/Valor suits should be refunded and deleted for that reason alone.
They're standard level. The problem is some fudging with the reimbursement terms, confusion over what constitutes an "event item" (the people complaining about refunds for it clearly never got it for free), and the ballooned skill reqs. |
Cybus Trama'dol
EYE Security Task Force and Resources Acquisition
7
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Posted - 2013.05.09 08:20:00 -
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I have logged a support ticket to request either a refund or to remove racial\sp requirements so we can use again and suggest you do the same. If enough people show their disappointment CCP have to act on it. |
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CCP Frame
C C P
C C P Alliance
829
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Posted - 2013.05.09 08:26:00 -
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Hello guys,
We are very well aware of Valor, Raven and Sever dropsuits changing their SP requirements. We are working on addressing that very soon, and we apologize for the inconvenience this may have caused. Stay tuned for more updates on this in the upcoming forum announcements right here in this section: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=898
Thank you. |
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Aoena Rays
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2013.05.09 08:29:00 -
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CCP Frame wrote:Hello guys, We are very well aware of Valor, Raven and Sever dropsuits changing their SP requirements. We are working on addressing that very soon, and we apologize for the inconvenience this may have caused. Stay tuned for more updates on this in the upcoming forum announcements right here in this section: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=898Thank you.
Great stuff. Cheers. Have a like, my fav dev that tells us what's being fixed! :D |
Byozuma Kegawa
The Tritan Industries
RISE of LEGION
8
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Posted - 2013.05.09 08:44:00 -
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Honestly, even if they do change the skill requirements which I feel will be their response, it's not going to address the other issue with the MAG dropsuits in that there's more than a fair number of people who would just like our AUR back, I not the least among them. |
Aoena Rays
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2013.05.09 08:48:00 -
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Byozuma Kegawa wrote:Honestly, even if they do change the skill requirements which I feel will be their response, it's not going to address the other issue with the MAG dropsuits in that there's more than a fair number of people who would just like our AUR back, I not the least among them.
How do they refund them though? Those dropsuits were part of bundle and also separately available on the market for just AUR. As far as I know they can't take AUR price and give it to you if you got your suit from a bundle pack, becuase that's almost like getting additional AUR for free. And those that bought it for clean aur will feel that they just got AUR and not rest of the pack. Makes sense just to either lower skill req or make them basic dropsuits. |
Mechoj Nomreps
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
12
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Posted - 2013.05.09 08:50:00 -
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Byozuma Kegawa wrote:Honestly, even if they do change the skill requirements which I feel will be their response, it's not going to address the other issue with the MAG dropsuits in that there's more than a fair number of people who would just like our AUR back, I not the least among them.
Not only that but I already specced into them so even if they now drop the requirements my SP will be gone. |
LuckyLuke Wargan
HavoK Core
RISE of LEGION
139
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Posted - 2013.05.09 09:01:00 -
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I hope they do not simply change requirements but give us a refund, CCP depicably deceived us by saying last month while talking about new skills and items refund "We have thus decided that it is far better to respec not only the skills but items as well. In short, you will get your SPGÇÖs back and the ISK and AUR value of any item that is removed from your inventory." Needless to say that none of us thought that some of these items were non-refundable, mainly the MAG suits. We all believed that they were, some of us do not want to invest in a certain race or want to change class entirely, but now We have 10 dollar dropsuits hanging in our closets. |
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Cybus Trama'dol
EYE Security Task Force and Resources Acquisition
7
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Posted - 2013.05.09 09:03:00 -
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Mechoj Nomreps wrote:Byozuma Kegawa wrote:Honestly, even if they do change the skill requirements which I feel will be their response, it's not going to address the other issue with the MAG dropsuits in that there's more than a fair number of people who would just like our AUR back, I not the least among them. Not only that but I already specced into them so even if they now drop the requirements my SP will be gone.
I went down the route of specialisation in Amarr suits before I even realised I could no longer use the BPO's so am opposite to you. I would much prefer to be able to use them again. I already have around 40000 AUR sitting there without wanting to really spend any at the moment so I would get more benefit from having my suits back usuable. |
crazy space 1
Krullefor Organization
Minmatar Republic
1103
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Posted - 2013.05.09 09:13:00 -
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I say replace them. Make them into the same as the dragon fly suit! Why is the scout the only special suit :/
It'll be a nice gift to closed beta testers |
Llan Heindell
One-Armed Bandits
Atrocitas
55
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Posted - 2013.05.09 10:06:00 -
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I would prefer BPO variants for each race. So we could be reimbursed and be able to buy the BPO from the race you want.
Because it makes a hell lot of sense. Make BPOs for all Type one Logi suits and its a done deal. I would gladly re-spend the reimbursed AUR in an Amarr BPO Logi type 1 suit.
Llan Heindell. |
LuckyLuke Wargan
HavoK Core
RISE of LEGION
139
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Posted - 2013.05.09 10:10:00 -
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We are only asking for Aurum back, not real money... (like returning an unsatifying item for in store credit) I don't see what the big deal is. |
XXfootnoteXX
DUST University
Ivy League
246
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Posted - 2013.05.09 10:10:00 -
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Llan Heindell wrote:I would prefer BPO variants for each race. So we could be reimbursed and be able to buy the BPO from the race you want.
Because it makes a hell lot of sense. Make BPOs for all Type one Logi suits and its a done deal. I would gladly re-spend the reimbursed AUR in an Amarr BPO Logi type 1 suit.
Llan Heindell.
+1 and Agreed.
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Nirwanda Vaughns
Planetary Response Organisation
43
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Posted - 2013.05.09 10:16:00 -
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Llan Heindell wrote:I would prefer BPO variants for each race. So we could be reimbursed and be able to buy the BPO from the race you want.
Because it makes a hell lot of sense. Make BPOs for all Type one Logi suits and its a done deal. I would gladly re-spend the reimbursed AUR in an Amarr BPO Logi type 1 suit.
Llan Heindell.
+1 i'm exactly the same, i want a logi bpo and i dont mind if its a low level one but teh reason i bought the sever and raven was to use as cheap suits because of the low sp to use them. now in full game i'm highly unlikely to use assault at all and i'm currently Gallente Logi (love the fitting bonus  ) i'm considering going minmatar logi for the hacking bonus but since the raven has the ugly cammo and not the rather foxy black/white coloring i'd be happy to trade it for a gal logi bpo, same as with my Valor on my other account, not sure what i'm wanting to spec into on that yet but option to get aurum back to decide later would be highly appreciated |
tribal wyvern
ZionTCD
Unclaimed.
898
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Posted - 2013.05.09 10:20:00 -
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Delirium Inferno wrote:Agree with everyone else, I'm pretty PO'd about this.
Only thing I'm po'd about is not being able to USE my mag suits. I don't want a refund.....I just don't want to have to skill up 2mil+ just to use them.
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C4p1t4n0
Italia pizza delivery corp
0
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Posted - 2013.05.09 11:07:00 -
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Llan Heindell wrote:I would prefer BPO variants for each race. So we could be reimbursed and be able to buy the BPO from the race you want.
Because it makes a hell lot of sense. Make BPOs for all Type one Logi suits and its a done deal. I would gladly re-spend the reimbursed AUR in an Amarr BPO Logi type 1 suit.
Llan Heindell.
Agree. |
Cybus Trama'dol
EYE Security Task Force and Resources Acquisition
10
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Posted - 2013.05.09 11:10:00 -
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tribal wyvern wrote:Delirium Inferno wrote:Agree with everyone else, I'm pretty PO'd about this. Only thing I'm po'd about is not being able to USE my mag suits. I don't want a refund.....I just don't want to have to skill up 2mil+ just to use them.
This |
Wraith 2Logi
Ultramarine Corp
Orion Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.05.09 12:24:00 -
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I too bought the SVER (Sever) Logistics, the RAVEN Assault, and the DRAGONFLY packs. Just so I could try out each variant, Logistics, Assault and Scout.
1 account (main, this one) with the SVER and RAVEN suits.
2nd account with the Dragonfly.
Now I find I enjoy Logistics the best (hence the name) but how I enjoy the Gallente Racial variants, I can no longer use either the Minmatar SVER Logistics Suit, nor the Caldari Raven Assault suit.
I would like a refund so that I could spend that AUR in equipment that I WILL use and not just have it sitting in my inventory gathering DUST. After all that was the reason it was purchased originally to TRY items out with the condition we were recieving a refund.
OR
If we aren't getting an AUR refund then at least I would like to have a SVER Gallente Logistics suit, moulded to Gallente type. Afterall this would be nothing more than a "skinjob" on a Gallente Logistics (Orange and brown) & RAVEN Gallente Assualt (Black and white)
One for each race and SWAP one BPO for another, ONE THAT WILL BE USED.
as mentioned... it's a skinjob, give each race the Logistic SVER colours, Assualt RAVEN colours, Scout VALOR colours in the type 1 variants and allow players to make the swap.
Or refund the originally promised AUR for the BPO's, which was originally stated upon purchase.
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IceStormers
Forsaken Immortals
19
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Posted - 2013.05.09 14:35:00 -
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think i would be annoyed if they gave the suit no requirements to use, would mean i have just spent 2mill sp to use a logi suit when i would have used my BPO and spent the points elsewhere
However i do agree either refund or much better give me a option to change to a std suit of my race within the same type
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Knarf Black
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
705
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Posted - 2013.05.09 14:38:00 -
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If they make them requirement free like the Dragonfly, they're going to have to nerf them a bit, too. |
ADAM-OF-EVE
Carbon 7
4
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Posted - 2013.05.09 15:04:00 -
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Aoena Rays wrote:CCP Frame wrote:Hello guys, We are very well aware of Valor, Raven and Sever dropsuits changing their SP requirements. We are working on addressing that very soon, and we apologize for the inconvenience this may have caused. Stay tuned for more updates on this in the upcoming forum announcements right here in this section: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=898Thank you. Great stuff. Cheers. Have a like, my fav dev that tells us what's being fixed! :D
this would be acceptable to me howether i have already spent sp to use the suit. i hope there is a sp refund for skills the new skill requirement doesnt need.
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SHANN da MAN
D3LTA FORC3
Orion Empire
10
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Posted - 2013.05.09 19:31:00 -
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See my post here for a proposed solution to the inequality of the Basic and Specialist Dropsuit SP requirements.
It also proposes an unlock of the Raven/Sever/Valor suits at a much more logical and SP affordable place in the skill tree. |
Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
119
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Posted - 2013.05.09 19:41:00 -
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I think an extended set of STD BPOs would be nice, as I'd still like a Logi BPO, just not Minmatar. I don't mind the idea of specializing to get to roles either (though Assaults/Scouts/Sentinels need more to distinguish themselves from basic frames). So, it's not so much the skill reqs exactly, it's combination of that with with respec and racial variants. We went from literally only one kind of logi, assault, etc. to four. And it probably should've been refunded considering the level of changes - especially if we paid actual Aurum for it.
I'd like this resolved amicably. A swap for another racial variant would be cool of course. As would a reimbursement so we could wait for something like another racial variant to actually exist. I think it would be bad if the suits got "nerfed" skill-wise, so they no longer render the class/spec bonuses they can currently can for the people that have them. They are expensive BPOs, and people could have bought them POST-uprising too. $10 is a pretty good price for a standard BPO that can benefit from specialization bonuses. If this turns a "we have an unfair Aurum reimbursement issue" into a situation where our problem becomes EVERYONE's nerf, that is a really sad way for things to go down. |
DeadlyAztec11
One-Armed Bandits
Atrocitas
223
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Posted - 2013.05.09 19:44:00 -
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I sympathize with your cause! My friend. |
Hey Fatty
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
2
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Posted - 2013.05.09 19:51:00 -
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This kind of factored into what suit I was going to use. Though I regret nothing and am actually enjoying the Minmatar suit. The idea of letting a $10 RL money suit sit there and rot because it, for whatever reason, was not refunded as mentioned earlier bugs me quite a bit. :) |
Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
51
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Posted - 2013.05.10 04:30:00 -
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I'm actually quite happy that my Raven Assault suit receives a racial bonus, if you lower the requirements I can't imagine I'd ever use it again? So from my point of view I'd also like the AUR refund promised at the start of uprising on my BPO's |
KING CHECKMATE
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
65
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Posted - 2013.05.10 04:42:00 -
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They should take ALL AUR BPO back and give us what we spent in AUR (except to teh ones taht payed only 30AU, sincethey should probably prefer to keep it) , and let us choose what we want to spend it in. 19900 AUR gone to waste? BS....
I bought the Raven at first cuz i didn't know how to play and the drop suit helped me out. After that, even if i play SCOUT, i started using it a LOT for ambush matches.
Now i have a 1.8million SP suit there rusting in a corner...
I would prefer a Militia BPO i kid you not.....
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WOLF T
The Exemplars
Gentlemen's Agreement
0
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Posted - 2013.05.10 04:49:00 -
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i bought all 3 of the suit bpos individually and now i have no need for the scout or the logi one cuz im not wasting all that sp on something im not gonna use i would like the refund they said everyone was getting |
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Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
128
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Posted - 2013.05.10 05:05:00 -
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Offer to swap out for the racial variant of the player's choice. Use the same color scheme. Make the swap a one-time offer. Make sure you don't enact any mega-class nerfs right afterward. People seem to be screaming for logi blood, and if someone took a Caldari logi variant and then it lost 2 slots, half it's hp, and the LW became a SW... even if people got a respec right after that, then they'd be stuck with a suit they probably wouldn't want to use because the role would've changed drastically. |
DigiOps
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
206
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Posted - 2013.05.10 05:13:00 -
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Zeylon Rho wrote:Offer to swap out for the racial variant of the player's choice. Use the same color scheme. Make the swap a one-time offer. Make sure you don't enact any mega-class nerfs right afterward. People seem to be screaming for logi blood, and if someone took a Caldari logi variant and then it lost 2 slots, half it's hp, and the LW became a SW... even if people got a respec right after that, then they'd be stuck with a suit they probably wouldn't want to use because the role would've changed drastically.
The role has already changed. People didn't pick the Caldari logistics suit to do logistics. They went that route to shield tank. Don't take any slots. Just make them use a side arm. They still have their medium frames if they want to go back to light weapons. |
Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
133
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Posted - 2013.05.10 05:24:00 -
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DigiOps wrote:Zeylon Rho wrote:Offer to swap out for the racial variant of the player's choice. Use the same color scheme. Make the swap a one-time offer. Make sure you don't enact any mega-class nerfs right afterward. People seem to be screaming for logi blood, and if someone took a Caldari logi variant and then it lost 2 slots, half it's hp, and the LW became a SW... even if people got a respec right after that, then they'd be stuck with a suit they probably wouldn't want to use because the role would've changed drastically. The role has already changed. People didn't pick the Caldari logistics suit to do logistics. They went that route to shield tank. Don't take any slots. Just make them use a side arm. They still have their medium frames if they want to go back to light weapons.
That's an ignorant quote. SOME people chose to use Caldari Logistics as shield tanks. Some people chose to play as logistics, and that change would gimp them.
It would definitely necessitate a respec. Sidearms just don't have the range. ANYONE with a rifle could kill a logi at range because pistols/SMG/knives have much shorter range than ARs/lasers/MDs/Snipers. It just makes Logis dead men walking.
That's aside from the most obvious respec issue. If you're a logi, you only have a Light Weapon slot. Odds are you may have never touched sidearm skills. So whatever weapon you did skill into would be worthless in your primary role. |
Oss Tex
Planetary Response Organization
2
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Posted - 2013.05.10 05:33:00 -
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Respec AND fix the MAG suit issue by making them usable: would be a nice start, IMO.
I REALLY want to come back to the game I knew and loved...or at least some semblance of it. |
Chankk Saotome
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
288
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Posted - 2013.05.18 04:01:00 -
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I just had to post this as this was an element of a recent response I got in regards to the matter. The rest of the email was basically, "Read the forums. We're not doing squat. Live with it."
__________________________-
To whom it may concern,
In regards to the following response:
> Subject: RE: MAG BPO Dropsuits [20130515-3228802-D029039F]
> From: [email protected]
> To: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
> Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 10:02:45 +0000
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> Petition: MAG BPO Dropsuits
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> You can follow up on your petition on:
> https://community.eveonline.com/support/petitions/my-petitions/details/?id=3228802
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> 2013.05.15 10:03:00 GM Bambi
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Hello,
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> Thank you for contacting DUST 514 Customer Support.
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> The reason that your 'MAG' dropsuit BPOs were not refunded can be found in the DEV Blog post below:
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> http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/05/uprising-skill-point-re-spec-details/
>
> Please note the specific part that states:
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> "Also, important to note, any PSN items (such as the Mercenary Pack), Militia BPOs (which are not being changed), and any in-game event items (such as the Black Eagles, Skinweave and Quafe Dropsuits) will NOT be removed from your Assets."
>
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My only concern with CCP's reaction, or inaction, to the situation is that the suits WERE changed, thus nullifying the claim that such items should not be refunded in some form.
With their SP requirements altered severely from a few thousand Skill Points to a couple million each, they've been made virtually, if not entirely useless.
I am sincerely concerned if this is the future CCP intends on following, making an open statement that "long term and meaningful decisions" which they have been promoting for the entirety of the DUST 514 development will only negatively impact the players as things we invest in are in no way future-proof from severe alterations to the game and related in-game elements.
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The second part is my final response to them on the situation. Look, I don't mind being stuck with the suits. I had actually hoped for a refund to move them back to my main character so they're not stuck on now useless ALTs. But with their SP cost, they're utterly useless, even to anyone who got them as part of the Tribute Merc Pack which was still an investment whether forums agree or not.
The point is that if there's no sense of security in investment of items in-game then there's NO reason to spend real money on such items whatsoever.
If CCP can't realize that, then they really need to rethink their marketing strategies once players get smart to the fact. The issue is that most players are and will continue to be idiots and won't think about this.
I imagine the whole point of the recent "Commercial Release" was to do away with people threatening legal recourse against CCP for their poor response to real customer issues.
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Eskel Bondfree
DUST University
Ivy League
101
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Posted - 2013.05.18 11:16:00 -
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So what about CCP Frame's comment?
CCP Frame wrote:
We are very well aware of Valor, Raven and Sever dropsuits changing their SP requirements. We are working on addressing that very soon, and we apologize for the inconvenience this may have caused.
I'm still waiting for a follow up on that one.
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Reign Omega
Quafe Runners
17
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Posted - 2013.05.18 11:35:00 -
[47] - Quote
I was under the impression that after the change in SP requirements to the BPOs and to the current skill tree we would all be getting a respec (optional upon request) anyways? So for the folks who did invest the 2 mil or so they could respec and allocate the SP as they see fit? |
Chankk Saotome
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
290
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Posted - 2013.05.18 17:57:00 -
[48] - Quote
I have to apologize for sharing secret private messages sent by CCP.
I was a bit on edge about the situation and their response to the matter, but that doesn't permit me to break forum conduct which I agreed to in order to participate in both the game and the forum community.
I appreciate that CCP doesn't feel it necessary to fully censure me and will accept the criticism I made, even if they don't really care one way or the other.
Thank you for reminding me of this element and I apologize for any inconvenience in regards to the matter. And thank you for still maintaining dignity by allowing some harsh criticisms of your actions recently. We probably forget it as players but you're probably under unimaginable stress compared to the rest of us suddenly worried about so-and-so coming after such-and-such district.
Sorry about that CCP, but thanks for protecting my right to voice an opinion. Props to you. |
ADAM-OF-EVE
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
19
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Posted - 2013.05.28 17:17:00 -
[49] - Quote
ok. i was under the assumption ccp was doing something about this. we now have our skill points back but still no change's and no info on when they are going to fix this. awsome ccp. i now have my sp back but to use my gear i have paid for i now have to spend it straight back into the skills i shouldn't need to.
the annoying thing is ccp have released the dren assault suit with the exact same stats and fittings as the raven but doesn't have any skill requirements.
i find it disturbing that ccp have the time to add new content (all be it the same old content with a different name and skin) but cant fix the old stuff first. |
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