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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.05.06 19:05:00 -
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It seems everyone in proto gear is logi. Why? BECAUSE ITS TOO EFFECTIVE AT THE ASSAULTS JOB.
Or how someone from the IRC put it: "yea, logi's seem pretty strong, and the one match I played all the "good" players are in proto logi suits. They're far too versatile and easy to fit without any kind of penalty to combat, plus all the equipment and stuff. No sidearm isn't too bad when you've got a balac's lol"
I called it. |
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Noc Tempre
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Posted - 2013.05.06 19:07:00 -
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Maybe if the assault suits actually had bonuses worth caring about... |
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Beren Hurin
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Posted - 2013.05.06 19:10:00 -
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Don't listen to him. This is just forum-warrior meta to get everyone to be logis so that CRONOS can stomp you. Until I see a CRONOS youtube with his whole team of proto logis I won't believe him. |
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BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.06 19:12:00 -
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yep they do need something IMO |
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Posted - 2013.05.06 19:12:00 -
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Beren Hurin wrote:Don't listen to him. This is just forum-warrior meta to get everyone to be logis so that CRONOS can stomp you. Until I see a CRONOS youtube with his whole team of proto logis I won't believe him.
Doubt you'd see CRONOS doing such a feat... just saying. |
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.05.06 19:25:00 -
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Beren Hurin wrote:Don't listen to him. This is just forum-warrior meta to get everyone to be logis so that CRONOS can stomp you. Until I see a CRONOS youtube with his whole team of proto logis I won't believe him. You're welcome to go to any pub match and see what the high pubstompers are using. |
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L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.06 19:27:00 -
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The question is, are they doing a logi's job, or just shooting people. |
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.05.06 19:48:00 -
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gbghg wrote:The question is, are they doing a logi's job, or just shooting people. Both. |
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ca ronic
Moffit Bros
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Posted - 2013.05.06 21:34:00 -
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If you dont need 3 equipment slots why not choose Minmatar medium over the logi. Passive armor repair and five high slots. More base shield, less armor, more hp total. |
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Kaius Coriolanus
Gothic Wars Consortium
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Posted - 2013.05.06 21:39:00 -
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Cat Merc is so full of lies and spamming the forum as always :P |
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Posted - 2013.05.06 21:40:00 -
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This is simply ccp over nerfing assault suits to make logis more viable.
From our testing proto assault suits even with spending the 1.5 for both engineering and electronics are under powered. CCP raised the cpu/pg costs of equipment/gear
So all you "Everyone is using assault suits so they must be OP" QQers can now QQ about logis |
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Posted - 2013.05.06 21:41:00 -
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Is already noted and has been discussed since fan fest, we're still waiting for things to pan out and have more hands on time before suggesting fixes. Some of us are still stuck on download limbo. |
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Parson Atreides
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.05.06 21:44:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Is already noted and has been discussed since fan fest, we're still waiting for things to pan out and have more hands on time before suggesting fixes. Some of us are still stuck on download limbo.
Are there any discussions about the new aiming? It feels totally wrong. |
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Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.06 21:44:00 -
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Do logis still have bigger hitboxes, or did frame sizes change that? Because hitboxes matter when it comes to strafing. I know my militia assault fit back in Chromosome could last longer strafing than my logi A-series. |
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Edoras Corporation
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Posted - 2013.05.06 21:45:00 -
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I haven't done too much Uprising yet, but I noticed something when looking at the stats. I got my prototype basic suit and was looking at the assault to see if it was worth going into and it's exactly the same as the basics but with the passive bonus, which makes no sense. Basically you'd have to wait until you have enough to get to level 5 and keep using your basic proto until then.
BUT then I looked at the logis, and at least these suits got more CPU/PG to deck out with better gear. |
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Deep Space Republic Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2013.05.06 21:53:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:gbghg wrote:The question is, are they doing a logi's job, or just shooting people. Both.
Sooo...as a logi i would say nothing has changed.
Whenever i went up against assault 9 times out of 10 i always felt they were easy DS3 using kills. It was always the scouts, heavies and other logis who worried me. |
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Balzich Rotaine
Rotaine Shipping Inc
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Posted - 2013.05.06 21:58:00 -
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The logi suit is slower, has way less hp, less high slots, and no sidearm. How does that make it more effective at combat than an assault suit? |
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.05.06 21:59:00 -
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Kaius Coriolanus wrote:Cat Merc is so full of lies and spamming the forum as always :P This time I'm serious,
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:01:00 -
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Balzich Rotaine wrote:The logi suit is slower, has way less hp, less high slots, and no sidearm. How does that make it more effective at combat than an assault suit? lol "way less HP". Its one bullets worth of HP. The logi has more slots you dope. The sidearm is barely used as is, especially when you have a balac. |
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:05:00 -
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The problem is, I'm sure the logi suits will be adjusted someday once CCP gets wind of the stats showing more assault players using logis.
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Xander Mercy
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:08:00 -
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im haveing fun in my proto assault |
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:11:00 -
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Xander Mercy wrote:im haveing fun in my proto assault And I was having fun using knives last build. Doesn't mean its good. |
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:12:00 -
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It's more that there's no reason to spec racial assault. If you wanted to play straight assault, why not just take a racial medium frame suit to proto and use that? The racial assault bonuses are in no way worth 3+ mil SP. Getting extra equipment slots on your logi could actually be worth it. |
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Kaze Eyrou
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:14:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Xander Mercy wrote:im haveing fun in my proto assault And I was having fun using knives last build. Doesn't mean its good. Adapt or die. |
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TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:19:00 -
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Parson Atreides wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Is already noted and has been discussed since fan fest, we're still waiting for things to pan out and have more hands on time before suggesting fixes. Some of us are still stuck on download limbo. Are there any discussions about the new aiming? It feels totally wrong.
THIS WTF did they change...? If the person moves I can't hit them... I had to stop playing after only a few rounds. |
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Rotaine Shipping Inc
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:21:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Balzich Rotaine wrote:The logi suit is slower, has way less hp, less high slots, and no sidearm. How does that make it more effective at combat than an assault suit? lol "way less HP". Its one bullets worth of HP. The logi has more slots you dope. The sidearm is barely used as is, especially when you have a balac.
No need for name calling. I was looking at the minmatar basic and minmatar logi. Logi hp 240 medium frame 285, logi 4 high slots medium frame 5, logi speed 7 medium frame 7.4. The basic medium also has passive armor repair. Your crass response was uncalled for as I was just asking a question |
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:29:00 -
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Spacetits CDXX wrote:It's more that there's no reason to spec racial assault. If you wanted to play straight assault, why not just take a racial medium frame suit to proto and use that? The racial assault bonuses are in no way worth 3+ mil SP. Getting extra equipment slots on your logi could actually be worth it.
meh, maybe more of a status thing than a min/max thing.. the minmatar passive rep sounds awesome tho.. idk, my client is updating. |
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ca ronic
Moffit Bros
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:38:00 -
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Balzich Rotaine wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Balzich Rotaine wrote:The logi suit is slower, has way less hp, less high slots, and no sidearm. How does that make it more effective at combat than an assault suit? lol "way less HP". Its one bullets worth of HP. The logi has more slots you dope. The sidearm is barely used as is, especially when you have a balac. No need for name calling. I was looking at the minmatar basic and minmatar logi. Logi hp 240 medium frame 285, logi 4 high slots medium frame 5, logi speed 7 medium frame 7.4. The basic medium also has passive armor repair. Your crass response was uncalled for as I was just asking a question Dont forget the side arm. The hacking bonus on the logi would be nice though. |
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.05.07 04:26:00 -
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Balzich Rotaine wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Balzich Rotaine wrote:The logi suit is slower, has way less hp, less high slots, and no sidearm. How does that make it more effective at combat than an assault suit? lol "way less HP". Its one bullets worth of HP. The logi has more slots you dope. The sidearm is barely used as is, especially when you have a balac. No need for name calling. I was looking at the minmatar basic and minmatar logi. Logi hp 240 medium frame 285, logi 4 high slots medium frame 5, logi speed 7 medium frame 7.4. The basic medium also has passive armor repair. Your crass response was uncalled for as I was just asking a question Basic medium has no passive armor rep. As I said, one bullets worth of HP. |
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Posted - 2013.05.07 04:27:00 -
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Kaze Eyrou wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Xander Mercy wrote:im haveing fun in my proto assault And I was having fun using knives last build. Doesn't mean its good. Adapt or die. Alright, I will adapt. I will use a logi, I didn't get to the crossing point yet >_> |
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