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Flamesea
Shadow Company HQ
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Posted - 2013.05.05 16:56:00 -
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Superluminal Replicant wrote:According to my calculations I made last night ill be getting 19,376,000 Aurum from my stockpiled militia BPO.
Cool.
Wonder what will save CCP more.. Bad PR for Merck packs or Millions of AUR's back due stocking BPO's
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
2808
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Posted - 2013.05.05 16:57:00 -
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Oh how I wish I had stocked up, but 225,000 AUR is still way more than I'll ever be able to afford  |
Spy Mouse
New Eden Space Pirates
32
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Posted - 2013.05.05 16:58:00 -
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How many BPOs did you buy?
I got 1 of each module and equipment BPO and that adds up to around 170k AUR.
I don't believe you bought 100 of each. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
2808
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Posted - 2013.05.05 17:00:00 -
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Spy Mouse wrote:How many BPOs did you buy?
I got 1 of each module and equipment BPO and that adds up to around 170k AUR.
I only got 1 of each, but I came up with 227,800 based off of current prices. Maybe you missed a couple? Did you get the vehicle module BPO's too? |
Spy Mouse
New Eden Space Pirates
32
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Posted - 2013.05.05 17:01:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Spy Mouse wrote:How many BPOs did you buy?
I got 1 of each module and equipment BPO and that adds up to around 170k AUR. I only got 1 of each, but I came up with 227,800 based off of current prices. Maybe you missed a couple? Did you get the vehicle module BPO's too?
I didn't get any of the dropsuits or weapons. |
Arramakaian Eka
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
439
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Posted - 2013.05.05 17:03:00 -
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Spy Mouse wrote:How many BPOs did you buy?
I got 1 of each module and equipment BPO and that adds up to around 170k AUR.
I don't believe you bought 100 of each.
You don't need many to make a killing: BPOs went from 20-30 AUR to 5,000 to 20,000 AUR. That's right, their prices increased 200-fold or more. |
mollerz
s1ck3r Corp
183
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Posted - 2013.05.05 17:04:00 -
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here's the thing-
Let's say you bought a sevr logistics BPO for 4800. Now CCP gives you 19800 for it. a profit of 15K rite!?
nice.. but if you want to buy a sevr to replace the refunded one.. it's 19800. so you actually made zero.
no biggie right? You'll just use it to buy other things.. but oops! All the prices increased with the sevr logo suit... so really, the 19m isk you now have is actually worth the same as you initially had when comparing AUR buying power before and post uprising.
Inflation is going to kill your dreams of becoming rich off an AUR refund.
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Flamesea
Shadow Company HQ
9
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Posted - 2013.05.05 17:05:00 -
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Arramakaian Eka wrote:Spy Mouse wrote:How many BPOs did you buy?
I got 1 of each module and equipment BPO and that adds up to around 170k AUR.
I don't believe you bought 100 of each. You don't need many to make a killing: BPOs went from 20-30 AUR to 5,000 to 20,000 AUR. That's right, their prices increased 200-fold or more.
And to make all that mess with Merc pack go away.. I recon many would have been happy with like 30-40k aur / pack refunded. |
Disturbingly Bored
Universal Allies Inc.
187
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Posted - 2013.05.05 17:08:00 -
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I'll place a $100 bet that some guy in CCP accounting is going to look at the ramifications to the company's balance sheet and put the kibosh on that kind of refund real fast.
We're going to get something tame and disappointing, I guarantee it. No company would willingly create such astronomical account credit liability.
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IMPAIRS YOUR ABILITY
Goonfeet
30
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Posted - 2013.05.05 17:08:00 -
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mollerz wrote:here's the thing-
Let's say you bought a sevr logistics BPO for 4800. Now CCP gives you 19800 for it. a profit of 15K rite!?
nice.. but if you want to buy a sevr to replace the refunded one.. it's 19800. so you actually made zero.
no biggie right? You'll just use it to buy other things.. but oops! All the prices increased with the sevr logo suit... so really, the 19m isk you now have is actually worth the same as you initially had when comparing AUR buying power before and post uprising.
Inflation is going to kill your dreams of becoming rich off an AUR refund.
Unless you bought multiple copies initially knowing that the prices were going up when beta went open with the intent to sell when the market was open and only plan on buying one of each.   I'm becoming an AUR millionaire overnight tonight. |
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Zahle Undt
The Tritan Industries
RISE of LEGION
70
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Posted - 2013.05.05 17:09:00 -
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mollerz wrote:here's the thing-
Let's say you bought a sevr logistics BPO for 4800. Now CCP gives you 19800 for it. a profit of 15K rite!?
nice.. but if you want to buy a sevr to replace the refunded one.. it's 19800. so you actually made zero.
no biggie right? You'll just use it to buy other things.. but oops! All the prices increased with the sevr logo suit... so really, the 19m isk you now have is actually worth the same as you initially had when comparing AUR buying power before and post uprising.
Inflation is going to kill your dreams of becoming rich off an AUR refund.
Exactly, because AUR has no value if you don't spend it on anything. |
InsidiousN
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
16
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Posted - 2013.05.05 17:09:00 -
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Flamesea wrote:Superluminal Replicant wrote:According to my calculations I made last night ill be getting 19,376,000 Aurum from my stockpiled militia BPO.
Cool. Wonder what will save CCP more.. Bad PR for Merck packs or Millions of AUR's back due stocking BPO's :/
Why in the heck would you buy that many copies of infinite use gear? Are you sure you don't mean 190K but added an extra few zeros? Why did you buy more than one BPO of each type of item/gear? |
Flamesea
Shadow Company HQ
9
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Posted - 2013.05.05 17:09:00 -
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mollerz wrote:here's the thing-
Let's say you bought a sevr logistics BPO for 4800. Now CCP gives you 19800 for it. a profit of 15K rite!?
nice.. but if you want to buy a sevr to replace the refunded one.. it's 19800. so you actually made zero.
no biggie right? You'll just use it to buy other things.. but oops! All the prices increased with the sevr logo suit... so really, the 19m isk you now have is actually worth the same as you initially had when comparing AUR buying power before and post uprising.
Inflation is going to kill your dreams of becoming rich off an AUR refund.
Lets say you bought 50 sevr logistics BPO for 4800..
and then after refund you need only to buy one.
Still no profit? |
Spy Mouse
New Eden Space Pirates
32
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Posted - 2013.05.05 17:10:00 -
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I'm going to be disappointed if for some reason they don't refund the BPOs tomorrow. I've got my hopes up now. I only bought all of the module BPOs in the first place because they were so cheap. I don't need them and would not pay the current price for them. |
Flamesea
Shadow Company HQ
9
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Posted - 2013.05.05 17:12:00 -
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InsidiousN wrote:Flamesea wrote:Superluminal Replicant wrote:According to my calculations I made last night ill be getting 19,376,000 Aurum from my stockpiled militia BPO.
Cool. Wonder what will save CCP more.. Bad PR for Merck packs or Millions of AUR's back due stocking BPO's :/ Why in the heck would you buy that many copies of infinite use gear? Are you sure you don't mean 190K but added an extra few zeros? Why did you buy more than one BPO of each type of item/gear?
CCP told that they were going to raise prices. People knew to make profit from it. Bought extra BPO's to sell later.
( I did not do that ) |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
2808
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Posted - 2013.05.05 17:15:00 -
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Kicking myself for being poor and not being able to stock up, but so excited to actually have some boosters for a change  |
Kaze Eyrou
ROGUE SPADES
EoN.
154
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Posted - 2013.05.05 17:16:00 -
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Flamesea wrote:Superluminal Replicant wrote:According to my calculations I made last night ill be getting 19,376,000 Aurum from my stockpiled militia BPO.
Cool. Wonder what will save CCP more.. Bad PR for Merck packs or Millions of AUR's back due stocking BPO's :/
Hahahaha...
Assuming CCP can't look at accounts and give you a refund based on how many Militia BPOs you have. I'm sure they may have cooked up something.
Let's just wait until May 6th. I'm sure most of these people who claim they bought 100+ BPOs will come back crying to the forums of how they only got Aurum for one BPO instead of the 100+ BPOs.
And if you don't hear from them, they are obviously not going to tell use they are sitting on 1,000,000+ AUR... |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organization
2192
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Posted - 2013.05.05 17:19:00 -
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The math that I see still favors those who stocked up on extra BPOs and only use one of each for themselves. |
mollerz
s1ck3r Corp
184
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Posted - 2013.05.05 17:20:00 -
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Flamesea wrote:mollerz wrote:here's the thing-
Let's say you bought a sevr logistics BPO for 4800. Now CCP gives you 19800 for it. a profit of 15K rite!?
nice.. but if you want to buy a sevr to replace the refunded one.. it's 19800. so you actually made zero.
no biggie right? You'll just use it to buy other things.. but oops! All the prices increased with the sevr logo suit... so really, the 19m isk you now have is actually worth the same as you initially had when comparing AUR buying power before and post uprising.
Inflation is going to kill your dreams of becoming rich off an AUR refund.
Lets say you bought 50 sevr logistics BPO for 4800.. and then after refund you need only to buy one. Still no profit?
Exactly. still no profit. |
Spy Mouse
New Eden Space Pirates
32
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Posted - 2013.05.05 17:23:00 -
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mollerz wrote:here's the thing-
Let's say you bought a sevr logistics BPO for 4800. Now CCP gives you 19800 for it. a profit of 15K rite!?
nice.. but if you want to buy a sevr to replace the refunded one.. it's 19800. so you actually made zero.
no biggie right? You'll just use it to buy other things.. but oops! All the prices increased with the sevr logo suit... so really, the 19m isk you now have is actually worth the same as you initially had when comparing AUR buying power before and post uprising.
Inflation is going to kill your dreams of becoming rich off an AUR refund.
Booster prices and the cost of AUR have never increased. The inflation you are talking about doesn't exist. BPOs were just cheaper during closed beta. |
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Bendtner92
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
528
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Posted - 2013.05.05 17:24:00 -
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mollerz wrote:Flamesea wrote:mollerz wrote:here's the thing-
Let's say you bought a sevr logistics BPO for 4800. Now CCP gives you 19800 for it. a profit of 15K rite!?
nice.. but if you want to buy a sevr to replace the refunded one.. it's 19800. so you actually made zero.
no biggie right? You'll just use it to buy other things.. but oops! All the prices increased with the sevr logo suit... so really, the 19m isk you now have is actually worth the same as you initially had when comparing AUR buying power before and post uprising.
Inflation is going to kill your dreams of becoming rich off an AUR refund.
Lets say you bought 50 sevr logistics BPO for 4800.. and then after refund you need only to buy one. Still no profit? Exactly. still no profit.
It's a profit if they don't buy the same amount of BPOs again. Other AUR items didn't get a similar price increase, so they'll be able to buy more of those items than when they bought the BPOs. |
mollerz
s1ck3r Corp
185
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Posted - 2013.05.05 17:40:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:mollerz wrote:Flamesea wrote:mollerz wrote:here's the thing-
Let's say you bought a sevr logistics BPO for 4800. Now CCP gives you 19800 for it. a profit of 15K rite!?
nice.. but if you want to buy a sevr to replace the refunded one.. it's 19800. so you actually made zero.
no biggie right? You'll just use it to buy other things.. but oops! All the prices increased with the sevr logo suit... so really, the 19m isk you now have is actually worth the same as you initially had when comparing AUR buying power before and post uprising.
Inflation is going to kill your dreams of becoming rich off an AUR refund.
Lets say you bought 50 sevr logistics BPO for 4800.. and then after refund you need only to buy one. Still no profit? Exactly. still no profit. It's a profit if they don't buy the same amount of BPOs again. Other AUR items didn't get a similar price increase, so they'll be able to buy more of those items than when they bought the BPOs.
Are you sure other AUR items didn't get an increase? That wouldn't make much sense for CCP when they constantly state their concern about their in game economy. They increased the AUR cost for everything else when they went open beta. EDIT: They have increased the prices on all BPOs from closed beta to open beta. so that is a moot point.
If you bought 100 AUR and you get refunded 1000 AUR, but your buying power remains the same- you made no profit. a bigger number doesn't always mean a profit :) This is why inflation is so feared in the real economy.
Basically all he did was spend a lot of real world money on lots of potential AUR that could buy the same amount of stuff before open beta as in uprising. Just using bigger numbers for prices.
Yea, he only needs one BPO, but so what? he'll spend the rest, right? And get the same amount of stuff as if he had just bought the equivalent amount of AUR from the start. So he'll have 19m AUR. It;s the same as if I just went out and bought 19m AUR right now.
I predict the next massive wave of QQ after this sinks in.
The caveat to this, is if CCP can't avoid an imbalance somewhere in their pricing that they can't avoid leaving a inefficiency people can exploit for actual profit ;) Also, it depends how the market opens up between eve/dust where you can sell BPOs for ISK.
But again- you can make this much isk in eve in like 5 minutes.
TL;DR- real world cash is better than some game pile of fake cash. I'd rather have USD than ISK! |
Kazeno Rannaa
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
162
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Posted - 2013.05.05 17:43:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Spy Mouse wrote:How many BPOs did you buy?
I got 1 of each module and equipment BPO and that adds up to around 170k AUR. I only got 1 of each, but I came up with 227,800 based off of current prices. Maybe you missed a couple? Did you get the vehicle module BPO's too?
If that is true, which my rough calculations have put me at getting back a little over 500k in AUR from my 3 toons with all of the BPOs.
At your numbers, would make more on the ends of almost 800k.
That would be NICE!!
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Bendtner92
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
528
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Posted - 2013.05.05 17:46:00 -
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mollerz wrote:Are you sure other AUR items didn't get an increase? That wouldn't make much sense for CCP when they constantly state their concern about their in game economy. They increased the AUR cost for everything else when they went open beta.
All non BPO items did not get a similar price increase.
Therefore people can buy more of all those items than they could when they bought their BPOs.
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
1381
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Posted - 2013.05.05 17:53:00 -
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CCP getting back their AUR lol
What do you think people gonna do with the AUR? Exchange it back to real money?
AUR they get back will be spent on the game. |
mollerz
s1ck3r Corp
185
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Posted - 2013.05.05 17:54:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:mollerz wrote:Are you sure other AUR items didn't get an increase? That wouldn't make much sense for CCP when they constantly state their concern about their in game economy. They increased the AUR cost for everything else when they went open beta. All non BPO items did not get a similar price increase. Therefore people can buy more of all those items than they could when they bought their BPOs.
And who is to say they will not increase the prices at the time of the refund for non BPOs? It would fall in line with maintaining the stability of their game market and be completely fair for them to do it.
Let me guess- Que the QQ, right? |
Zion Shad
ZionTCD
Unclaimed.
1721
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Posted - 2013.05.05 18:01:00 -
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IMPAIRS YOUR ABILITY wrote:Unless you bought multiple copies initially knowing that the prices were going up when beta went open with the intent to sell when the market was open and only plan on buying one of each. I'm becoming an AUR millionaire overnight tonight.
Yep, Eddie here was a part of my Corp when I told everyone to buy them up. He was one of the smarter that listened and did it. |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
210
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Posted - 2013.05.05 18:03:00 -
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Spy Mouse wrote:How many BPOs did you buy?
I got 1 of each module and equipment BPO and that adds up to around 170k AUR.
I don't believe you bought 100 of each.
Nonono about a week before the beta went open, all BPO's costed like 30 AUR, and the Raven type I suit costed like 10k AUR. So you could buy 100 AUR BPO's and it would only cost 3000 AUR...... NOW if all of it gets refunded for the current market prices...... (3000 AUR per BPO) then hes making literally 300,000 AUR and only spent 3k worth...... |
Spy Mouse
New Eden Space Pirates
32
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Posted - 2013.05.05 18:08:00 -
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Marston VC wrote:Spy Mouse wrote:How many BPOs did you buy?
I got 1 of each module and equipment BPO and that adds up to around 170k AUR.
I don't believe you bought 100 of each. Nonono about a week before the beta went open, all BPO's costed like 30 AUR, and the Raven type I suit costed like 10k AUR. So you could buy 100 AUR BPO's and it would only cost 3000 AUR...... NOW if all of it gets refunded for the current market prices...... (3000 AUR per BPO) then hes making literally 300,000 AUR and only spent 3k worth......
I bought mine when they were 20 or 30 AUR each. To make 19 million AUR, he would have to have bought about 100 of each. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
1129
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Posted - 2013.05.05 18:12:00 -
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Exactly which items are being refunded? |
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