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Spy Mouse
New Eden Space Pirates
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Posted - 2013.05.05 01:56:00 -
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The prices of many items are changing tomorrow with Uprising and all of our assets are being refunded at their new market value.
Take this opportunity to stock up on items that are receiving the biggest price increase and tomorrow you will make a fortune.
Prototype turrets will sell for roughly double what they do today so spend all of your ISK on railguns or you can go through every item in the spreadsheet and compare their prices to those in the market and you may find an even better deal. |
Jotun Hiem
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
581
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Posted - 2013.05.05 01:57:00 -
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They're refunding at current market price.
Nice try though. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
291
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Posted - 2013.05.05 01:58:00 -
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I bet they don't... that would just be horrible of CCP if they did that, plus charged rifles are going proto so that's like 10x in price way better buy and way cheaper. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organization
2189
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Posted - 2013.05.05 02:01:00 -
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My troll senses are tingling. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2013.05.05 02:46:00 -
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Confirmation that they're refunding everything?
Because previous info has implied they aren't. If it still exists, it will be staying in your inventory. Good if you're a tanker, not so good if you're just buying things to get moneys. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
150
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Posted - 2013.05.05 02:51:00 -
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I'd imagine they'd refund at current prices (in theory what they cost you if you ignore old inventory) and reserve the right to reprice the game as it is released. |
Vance Alken
Commando Perkone Caldari State
106
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Posted - 2013.05.05 02:58:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Confirmation that they're refunding everything?
Because previous info has implied they aren't. If it still exists, it will be staying in your inventory. Good if you're a tanker, not so good if you're just buying things to get moneys.
They're refunding everything that you'll be able to buy on the market, things in-game but not on-market will stay in inventory (officer stuff, event prizes, stuff just not on the market anymore), things not in-game anymore will be sold IIRC. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2678
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Posted - 2013.05.05 03:20:00 -
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Vance Alken wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:Confirmation that they're refunding everything?
Because previous info has implied they aren't. If it still exists, it will be staying in your inventory. Good if you're a tanker, not so good if you're just buying things to get moneys. They're refunding everything that you'll be able to buy on the market, things in-game but not on-market will stay in inventory (officer stuff, event prizes, stuff just not on the market anymore), things not in-game anymore will be sold IIRC. That's not confirmation, and as mentioned, it's been suggested otherwise in official news from CCP.
I've been out of the loop for a few days, so if someone has a source, that would be nice. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
454
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Posted - 2013.05.05 03:24:00 -
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Even though CCP endorses, let alone encourages scams in their games to enhance the sandbox experience, the trick is that people aren't supposed to know it's a scam. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
292
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Posted - 2013.05.05 03:28:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Vance Alken wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:Confirmation that they're refunding everything?
Because previous info has implied they aren't. If it still exists, it will be staying in your inventory. Good if you're a tanker, not so good if you're just buying things to get moneys. They're refunding everything that you'll be able to buy on the market, things in-game but not on-market will stay in inventory (officer stuff, event prizes, stuff just not on the market anymore), things not in-game anymore will be sold IIRC. That's not confirmation, and as mentioned, it's been suggested otherwise in official news from CCP. I've been out of the loop for a few days, so if someone has a source, that would be nice. CCP thingy you wanted
CCP wrote:What will persist? GÇó Character name, Contacts, Corporation, Stats/Leaderboards, Mail, AUR and ISK currencies, PSN items and items received from events (those not purchasable on the in-game market) GÇó ISK balance will be the ISK you currently have in your wallet + the ISK value of items cleared from your Assets (prize items that are available on the market will be removed and their ISK value reimbursed) GÇó AUR balance will be the AUR you currently have in your wallet + the AUR value of items cleared from your Assets GÇó If a user has an unfinished booster equipped at time of Uprising deployment, it will stay equipped GÇó Boosters that are still in Assets GÇó Currently trained corporation skills GÇó Corporation Wallet and Contacts GÇó In-game Mail GÇó NOTE: All items consumed before the Uprising update changes take place will STAY consumed and will not be reimbursed
What will be removed or changed? And what will be reimbursed? GÇó All Skills will be cleared, users get the SP back into Available SP GÇó Consumed boosters are NOT refunded (users have already earned the SP) GÇó All Fittings (both infantry and vehicle) GÇó Some persisted vanity items may not keep their previous coloring schemes GÇó All ISK items will be cleared from Assets and their CURRENT ISK value added back to wallet GÇó All AUR items will be cleared and users reimbursed with their current AUR value (with exceptions noted previously) Some corporation skills will be renamed, your skill level in the corresponding new skill will remain the same GÇó Currently active UVTs are removed from users and their AUR value refunded GÇó Any UVTs in Assets are removed and refunded GÇó This only applies to UVT purchased post-Tranquility move (previously purchased / consumed UVTs were already reset)
that is what is said.. |
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2013.05.05 03:48:00 -
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It specifically says "prize items that are available on the market will be removed and their ISK value reimbursed".
Now we need a definition of "prize items" - it's probably NOT going to cover things you purchased, which means this attempt to get free ISK will probably backfire.
Would be nice to have this ACTUALLY clarified by CCP though... |
low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
56
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Posted - 2013.05.05 03:49:00 -
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Spy Mouse wrote:The prices of many items are changing tomorrow with Uprising and all of our assets are being refunded at their new market value.
Take this opportunity to stock up on items that are receiving the biggest price increase and tomorrow you will make a fortune.
Prototype turrets will sell for roughly double what they do today so spend all of your ISK on railguns or you can go through every item in the spreadsheet and compare their prices to those in the market and you may find an even better deal.
yeah, it's a huge mistake to think you're smarter than ccp. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2013.05.05 03:54:00 -
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low genius wrote:Spy Mouse wrote:The prices of many items are changing tomorrow with Uprising and all of our assets are being refunded at their new market value.
Take this opportunity to stock up on items that are receiving the biggest price increase and tomorrow you will make a fortune.
Prototype turrets will sell for roughly double what they do today so spend all of your ISK on railguns or you can go through every item in the spreadsheet and compare their prices to those in the market and you may find an even better deal. yeah, it's a huge mistake to think you're smarter than ccp. um.. CCP has done a lot of dumb things.. u just have not say them out loud till your done.. like the switch over to weekly done Tuesday morning.. everyone thought oh hey.. they are not going to reset tomorrow that would be dumb and success it paid off they reset the weekly the day after they started the weekly system so for that Tuesday only you had to get the weekly cap. or the triple xp event.. not going into that one if you don't know it. theres plenty more but w/e on this matter. |
Covert Clay
Red Star. EoN.
28
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Posted - 2013.05.05 05:32:00 -
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So will we get our isk back from currently bought and used skill books? |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
295
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Posted - 2013.05.05 05:37:00 -
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at the current prices not the updated ones.. |
Rogatien Merc
Ill Omens EoN.
17
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Posted - 2013.05.05 05:56:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:It specifically says "prize items that are available on the market will be removed and their ISK value reimbursed".
Now we need a definition of "prize items" - it's probably NOT going to cover things you purchased, which means this attempt to get free ISK will probably backfire.
Would be nice to have this ACTUALLY clarified by CCP though... L2read entire post.
Second section line 5. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2013.05.05 06:05:00 -
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Rogatien Merc wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:It specifically says "prize items that are available on the market will be removed and their ISK value reimbursed".
Now we need a definition of "prize items" - it's probably NOT going to cover things you purchased, which means this attempt to get free ISK will probably backfire.
Would be nice to have this ACTUALLY clarified by CCP though... L2read entire post. Second section line 5. CURRENT ISK value.
Meaning you won't get back more than you already have. |
Winsaucerer
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
51
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Posted - 2013.05.05 06:06:00 -
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So there's an ambiguity here. While the game is deployed, the Dust 514 virtual world is frozen. Just before it goes down, items have a price. Just after it comes up, some of those items will have a different price to before. So to say that the prices are those at time of deployment is ambiguous between these two options of pre and post deployment prices.
The dev blog states, however, that: All ISK items will be cleared from Assets and their CURRENT ISK value added back to wallet
All AUR items will be cleared and users reimbursed with their current AUR value (with exceptions noted previously)
"Current" is a time indexical term, and so does not really clear things up. Current as of time of reading dev blog? Current at time of deployment? The former seems incorrect, and the latter suffers from the same ambiguity. I asked CCP Eterne, and he said:
CCP Eterne wrote:It means the prices at the time of deployment. If we have changed any prices, those will be the prices used.
I thought that cleared it up. The prices are going to be those that are immediately after Uprising is deployed, not immediately before. But now I'm not so sure. It *still* seems ambiguous to me, since the stating of "if we have changed any prices" could refer to any prices that change between now and when servers go down for Uprising. Or, it could be referring to price changes made in Uprising.
In short, I don't think it is at all clear what the refund prices will be. |
Byozuma Kegawa
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
2
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Posted - 2013.05.05 06:28:00 -
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Usually, when someone says 'current' it means 'already in place'. As the new pricings aren't in place yet, just a blurb on a document (that's a pain in the arse to download), it doesn't mean the new Uprising pricings. So yes, the OP post is a troll post by this reasoning. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
296
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Posted - 2013.05.05 06:35:00 -
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its pre update prices not post update prices so not 2x 10x price change over refunded.. greedy people. |
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Rogatien Merc
Ill Omens EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.05 07:11:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:It specifically says "prize items that are available on the market will be removed and their ISK value reimbursed".
Now we need a definition of "prize items" - it's probably NOT going to cover things you purchased, which means this attempt to get free ISK will probably backfire.
Would be nice to have this ACTUALLY clarified by CCP though... L2read entire post. Second section line 5. CURRENT ISK value. Meaning you won't get back more than you already have. Your post appeared to dispute the fact that we would be refunded for purchased items... apologies for misunderstanding.
I view this investment as foolproof... you either make Isk if refunded at new price or lose nothing if dlrefunded at old price. Surely that spreadsheet is correct after all lol |
Mithridates VI
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
1206
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Posted - 2013.05.05 07:27:00 -
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Quote:It means the prices at the time of deployment. If we have changed any prices, those will be the prices used.
The Charge Sniper rifle has had its price changed, so the new price is the price used.
Breaking: CCP is bad at communication. |
Winsaucerer
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
51
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Posted - 2013.05.05 09:09:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:Quote:It means the prices at the time of deployment. If we have changed any prices, those will be the prices used. The Charge Sniper rifle has had its price changed, so the new price is the price used. Breaking: CCP is bad at communication.
When did that happen? Our wiki had the current price on 15th March, and no other price. |
Icy Xenosmilus
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
47
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Posted - 2013.05.05 09:09:00 -
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This man is a f***** genius. Thanks.
Also, he's right, new prices are used when reimbursed. |
Mithridates Vl
DUST 411
0
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Posted - 2013.05.05 09:11:00 -
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Winsaucerer wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:Quote:It means the prices at the time of deployment. If we have changed any prices, those will be the prices used. The Charge Sniper rifle has had its price changed, so the new price is the price used. Breaking: CCP is bad at communication. When did that happen? Our wiki had the current price on 15th March, and no other price.
I mean to say that in Uprising it will have a different price.
Prices are going to be equal across tiers and the Charge Sniper is changing to a proto weapon. |
Arion Pallrus
One-Armed Bandits Atrocitas
5
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Posted - 2013.05.05 12:38:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:Quote:It means the prices at the time of deployment. If we have changed any prices, those will be the prices used. The Charge Sniper rifle has had its price changed, so the new price is the price used. Breaking: CCP is bad at communication. I hope you're right about that because i bought a few hundred charge sniper rifles. |
Winsaucerer
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
52
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Posted - 2013.05.05 13:40:00 -
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Arion Pallrus wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:Quote:It means the prices at the time of deployment. If we have changed any prices, those will be the prices used. The Charge Sniper rifle has had its price changed, so the new price is the price used. Breaking: CCP is bad at communication. I hope you're right about that because i bought a few hundred charge sniper rifles.
He said the price is changed, not that it's going up :( I *think* its price may be going down, if we can trust that the prices in that CSV are representative of NPC market prices. In EVE Online, I think that the prices that NPC's charge do not always match the base price. Will this be true with Dust 514? I don't know, but I think it is odd that the ISK price for so many items is allegedly going down, so I wouldn't be surprised if the base price in that CSV is not the actual price we will be able to pay. |
Spy Mouse
New Eden Space Pirates
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Posted - 2013.05.05 14:14:00 -
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Winsaucerer wrote:Arion Pallrus wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:Quote:It means the prices at the time of deployment. If we have changed any prices, those will be the prices used. The Charge Sniper rifle has had its price changed, so the new price is the price used. Breaking: CCP is bad at communication. I hope you're right about that because i bought a few hundred charge sniper rifles. He said the price is changed, not that it's going up :( I *think* its price may be going down, if we can trust that the prices in that CSV are representative of NPC market prices. In EVE Online, I think that the prices that NPC's charge do not always match the base price. Will this be true with Dust 514? I don't know, but I think it is odd that the ISK price for so many items is allegedly going down, so I wouldn't be surprised if the base price in that CSV is not the actual price we will be able to pay. The Charge Sniper rifle will be a prototype weapon in Uprising, it is currently a standard weapon. I assure you the price is not going down. |
Mithridates Vl
DUST 411
1
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Posted - 2013.05.08 07:12:00 -
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Spy Mouse wrote:The Charge Sniper rifle will be a prototype weapon in Uprising, it is currently a standard weapon. I assure you the price is not going down.
The price went down from 6k+ to 2.4k. Fortunately, CCP Nothin confirmed in IRC that the old prices were used. |
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